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Trump has publicly stated that no one is more conservative than he is, among many, many other things that he is more than anyone else is.

He has also been a keynote speaker @ CPAC.

So I don't see how you can claim that he isn't conservative to conservatives. You also dug up and posted an old news clipping of him supposedly stopping a mugging. If that wasn't a defense then nothing is.

You also were the first one who went off-topic by posting that oversized image that had nothing to do with the OP's of joining the NRA. You are proving to be an example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect by arrogantly and hypocritically accusing others of posting the same things that you have and still are, but yet constantly deny doing so.

I haven't heard that but so what - some men publicly state that they are women and vice versa, that doesn't make it true. Rachel Dolezal and Sean King publicly state that they are black, that doesn't make it true. My secular Jewish friend once told me I was more Jewish than he was - that doesn't make me a Jew.

Lot's of Republican candidates have spoken at CPAC, that doesn't make them conservatives. Ask a conservative, they'll tell you he's not conservative. Just look at his policies around trade - he's not a conservative.

I think the issue here is you don't know what a conservative is - it's not anyone with an R next to their name, or anyone who attended a CPAC, or who panders for votes by claiming to be conservative.

Your last paragraph is simply delusional - classic pot/kettle stuff. well done.
 
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I haven't heard that but so what - some men publicly state that they are women and vice versa, that doesn't make it true. Rachel Dolezal and Sean King publicly state that they are black, that doesn't make it true. My secular Jewish friend once told me I was more Jewish than he was - that doesn't make me a Jew.

Lot's of Republican candidates have spoken at CPAC, that doesn't make them conservatives. Ask a conservative, they'll tell you he's not conservative. Just look at his policies around trade - he's not a conservative.

I think the issue here is you don't know what a conservative is - it's not anyone with an R next to their name, or anyone who attended a CPAC, or who panders for votes by claiming to be conservative.

Your last paragraph is simply delusional - classic pot/kettle stuff. well done.

I have yet to read any post from you stating that any given Democrat isn't a leftist, or any MSM outlet, for that matter. So apparently anyone or anything which doesn't fit whatever your narrow definition is of being conservative, apparently is non-ideological, or "independent" or leftist as well.


So its Trump's trade policies which don't make him a conservative?

Why would a conservative vote for a supposed Republican who isn't conservative in the primaries, when there were SO MANY RNC candidates?

Surely there must have been at least a few who could be considered genuine conservatives, and since Trump handily beat all of them out, that must mean that conservatives are a small minority...OR that most conservatives don't know WTF a genuine conservative is, either.

Got anything else that proves he is not your idea of being a legit conservative?

So what is he then?
 
I have yet to read any post from you stating that any given Democrat isn't a leftist, or any MSM outlet, for that matter. So apparently anyone or anything which doesn't fit whatever your narrow definition is of being conservative, apparently is non-ideological, or "independent" or leftist as well.


So its Trump's trade policies which don't make him a conservative?

Why would a conservative vote for a supposed Republican who isn't conservative in the primaries, when there were SO MANY RNC candidates?

Surely there must have been at least a few who could be considered genuine conservatives, and since Trump handily beat all of them out, that must mean that conservatives are a small minority...OR that most conservatives don't know WTF a genuine conservative is, either.

Got anything else that proves he is not your idea of being a legit conservative?

So what is he then?

Did you read my post yesterday where I told Kawdup that Dershowitz, a lifelong Democrat isn't a leftist? Dave Rubin, a founding member of the Young Turks isn't a leftist - I listen to his podcasts frequently - I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but he's a reasonable liberal. Sam Harris is another nonleftist liberal I find interesting. Sadly, I'm not aware of any elected Dems who aren't either establishment slime balls (Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Wasserman-Shultz types) or leftist morons (Sanders, Warren, Booker, Gilibrand types).

Here's what I find funny about this conversation - the one thing you choose to believe Donald Trump on is his claim that he is a conservative. You criticize literally everything the guy says, but because you need to also disagree with everything I say, you argue that a guy who clearly isn't conservative, is. It's hilarious that you are the one saying someone else suffers from illusory superiority.

The rest of this post is simply nonsense. There were more conservative candidates (Ted Cruz, for example) and conservatives are a minority in the Republican party - like the DNC the RNC is dominated by the establishment, which is not particularly conservative. It's mostly made up of corporatist Republicans (McConnell, Flake, McCain, Jeb Bush types) who align more with establishment Dems than the conservative wing of the party. That's well known.

So what is he? Personally, I think he's an opportunist. A political chameleon and I think, most importantly for most R voters, not a Clinton or a Bush who thumbs his nose at the media and thrives on the negative press by calling them out for what they are and seeming to be indifferent to them.

If you want more "proof" he's not my idea of being a legit conservative other than his anti-conservative trade policies, how about the fact that I didn't vote for him in the primary or general election? That should be an indication that he doesn't fit my idea of a legit conservative. How about his position on healthcare? How about the fact that as a private citizen he never supported any conservative candidates with either endorsements or donations? How about the fact that right up until it was politically expedient he was staunchly pro choice (I don't believe for a second he's actually pro life). Trump was and still is opposed to entitlement reform. I can keep going but even you should be able to figure this out by now. Let me know if you're still not getting it.
 
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He's more of a Scotsman than Idi Amin, the last King of Scotland.

That doesn't make him a Scotsman.

Brothers and sisters are natural enemies. Like liberals and conservatives, or socialists and conservatives, or libertarians and conservatives, or conservatives and other conservatives! Damn conservatives! They ruined the right wing!
 
He's more of a Scotsman than Idi Amin, the last King of Scotland.

That doesn't make him a Scotsman.

Well, well, well, what do you know? the Donald actually is a Scotsman - half Scottish on his mother's side. She was born in Tong, Lewis, Scotland in 1912 and emigrated to the US in 1930.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

But he's still not conservative.
 
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Well, well, well, what do you know? the Donald actually is a Scotsman - half Scottish on his mother's side. She was born in Tong, Lewis, Scotland in 1912 and emigrated to the US in 1930.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

But he's still not conservative.

Yes, I do know that.

His mother not having been born in the US disqualifying him to be president was a little bit of a running joke early in Republican debates/primaries.

Cruz brought it up humorously here, when Trump questioned Cruz's eligibility to be president:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP68p4BB9XM
 
Yes, I do know that.

His mother not having been born in the US disqualifying him to be president was a little bit of a running joke early in Republican debates/primaries.

Cruz brought it up humorously here, when Trump questioned Cruz's eligibility to be president:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP68p4BB9XM

I had no idea. I didn't watch a whole lot of the debates and I don't recall it getting any coverage elsewhere. So much for that revelation.
 
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I got that, I'm merely pointing out that the joke missed the mark.

No you aren't. You're restating your argument. Probably assuming I was taking a position when I was only suggesting this type of argument happens a lot here.
 
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