15 Trillion

[hockeywings]

I don't think he has to demonize his opponents at all. They do a pretty good job at that themselves. Child laborers.... corporations are people.......

 

[mhughes0021]

Monster [/color]]Obama hasn't even started his campaign blitz. Chill out a bit, the polls don't mean anything right now. If it's that way in August, then yeah, he's fucked.

LOL, whats he running on??? He has started his campaign, its called OWS, his plan is to make 1% the bogeyman, blame them for all his faults. Monster, he has nothing to run on. Matthews even acknowledges this. Whats his slogan..."It couldn't have been worse". "Unemployment would have been 17% instead of the 14% it really is."

His campaign is to demonize his opponent and he will have a lot of money to do so, it wont be much on his accomplishments.

His list of accomplishments makes Bush look like he was on vacation the entire time he was in office. I bolded some of the high points since tsmith has already shown he cant read good.

Legislative Prowess

Despite the characterizations of some, Obama

 

[hockeywings]

***chirp*** ***chirp*** *chirp*blah blah blah by tsmith.........

 

[tsmith7559]

cut and paste from MSDNC???.......14 Million unemployed(most in US history), 20 Million unemployed/under employed(most in US History),
$15 Trillion in debt, $1.5 T% in deficits/yr(his version of Fiscal Responsibility?)

the Chinese Dialouge...."please, can we borrow more money"

the space program....is on life support, we have to rely on Russia to get to the space station

he nominated 2 Supreme Ct justices, with no experience from the bench..kind of like him, no experience, but now President. Of Course he need s the Latino and woman vote for re-election, forget qualifications

diverse cabinet? yes, 4 socialist/communist...Van Jones, acknowledged communist now leading Obama's OWS movement,

cut taxes, LOL....how much was that...his failure in domestic oil drilling has raised gas priced by $1.75 from his election, net effect, we pay more. Food prices at all time highs, wages lower...

Green houses gases...why didnt he approve the Kyoto agreement, had super majorities in the congress....they didnt even bring it up, LOL...why? because they dont want it either


creative write offs for vehicles? ya, we subsidize people buying Volts(which no one is, lol) or I should say the Chinese do at additional expense to the US. The Volt is a failure, the car companies make their US money on SUV and trucks

the affordable Health Care is turning out to be no so affordable...thousands of waivers have been granted......Companies are already announcing they will drop there healthcare plans and ship people to government care.
I have a brain surgeon friend who just got back from a conference in DC put on by HHS, basically they will not be able to operate on anyone over 70 unless they receive approval from a committee(not of doctors). In other words a death panel(Palin was 100% correct)
Obama said families would save $2,500 when his plan passes..OOPPSS, they have gone up 9%/yr

6% of his stimulus went to infrastructure improvements, 6!!!!

he is a failure

oh wait...dam, I forgot... he did secure the 2016 Olympics for Chicago

 

[mhughes0021]

Write a list for g dubs and then lets compare notes and see who the failure is?

His economy collapsed the banks and the auto industry.

He started and didnt finish any wars.

His war on terror killed no important terrorist whike spending billions of dollars a day we didnt have.

Womd my ass

His national security failed so bad we got bombed by our own planes while he sat there reading childrens books.

He created 0 jobs in 8 years.

 

[tsmith7559]

Write a list for g dubs and then lets compare notes and see who the failure is?

His economy collapsed the banks and the auto industry.

He started and didnt finish any wars.

His war on terror killed no important terrorist whike spending billions of dollars a day we didnt have.

Womd my ass

His national security failed so bad we got bombed by our own planes while he sat there reading childrens books.

He created 0 jobs in 8 years.

Is GWB running for president? I could argue his presidency vs Obama, but whats the point. He's retired. I do know the country has been in a much better condition when republicans control the congress

 

[mhughes0021]

The list for dubya is pertinent to the current presidency because it put us in such a big hole its been nearly impossible to climb out of...esp with all the racist obstructionists in congress that have no interest in creating jobs or paying bills.

 

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Write a list for g dubs and then lets compare notes and see who the failure is?

His economy collapsed the banks and the auto industry.

He started and didnt finish any wars.

His war on terror killed no important terrorist whike spending billions of dollars a day we didnt have.

Womd my ass

His national security failed so bad we got bombed by our own planes while he sat there reading childrens books.

He created 0 jobs in 8 years.

Is GWB running for president? I could argue his presidency vs Obama, but whats the point. He's retired. I do know the country has been in a much better condition when republicans control the congress

Says who?

And the point about GWB is all we hear is repubs talking about how bad Obama has been, but they mention nothing about how GWB was our worst ever president.

Like it or not the memory of GWB is still the face of the republican party, and that's Obama's biggest advantage.

 

[biggunsbob]

Monster [/color]]Obama hasn't even started his campaign blitz. Chill out a bit, the polls don't mean anything right now. If it's that way in August, then yeah, he's fucked.

LOL, whats he running on??? He has started his campaign, its called OWS, his plan is to make 1% the bogeyman, blame them for all his faults. Monster, he has nothing to run on. Matthews even acknowledges this. Whats his slogan..."It couldn't have been worse". "Unemployment would have been 17% instead of the 14% it really is."

His campaign is to demonize his opponent and he will have a lot of money to do so, it wont be much on his accomplishments.

Did you say Demonize with a straight face.. Holy crap that is the republican play book to a T.. Fuck all republicans and their elitist walls. They don't want to help Americans.. They want everyone at each other throats.. The Republicans are the party of No.. Always have been always will. The more you write your bullshit on these boards more i hate the republican party with a passion.. .. Fuck all republican politicians..

 

[biggunsbob]

Write a list for g dubs and then lets compare notes and see who the failure is?

His economy collapsed the banks and the auto industry.

He started and didnt finish any wars.

His war on terror killed no important terrorist whike spending billions of dollars a day we didnt have.

Womd my ass

His national security failed so bad we got bombed by our own planes while he sat there reading childrens books.

He created 0 jobs in 8 years.

Is GWB running for president? I could argue his presidency vs Obama, but whats the point. He's retired. I do know the country has been in a much better condition when republicans control the congress

Perpetual war and fuck the middle class and poor people.. Yup that is the republican playbook in a nutshell..

 

[tsmith7559]

biggunsbob[/color]]

LOL, whats he running on??? He has started his campaign, its called OWS, his plan is to make 1% the bogeyman, blame them for all his faults. Monster, he has nothing to run on. Matthews even acknowledges this. Whats his slogan..."It couldn't have been worse". "Unemployment would have been 17% instead of the 14% it really is."

His campaign is to demonize his opponent and he will have a lot of money to do so, it wont be much on his accomplishments.

Did you say Demonize with a straight face.. Holy crap that is the republican play book to a T.. Fuck all republicans and their elitist walls. They don't want to help Americans.. They want everyone at each other throats.. The Republicans are the party of No.. Always have been always will. The more you write your bullshit on these boards more i hate the republican party with a passion.. .. Fuck all republican politicians..

you're smoking something...even the Dems acknowledge Obama's only way to a win is mud, mud and more mud

 

[byco42]

The cursory analyses, half-truths and the sweeping generalizations that I'm reading here are reckless enough to apply to both political parties.

 

[tsmith7559]

biggunsbob[/color]]

Is GWB running for president? I could argue his presidency vs Obama, but whats the point. He's retired. I do know the country has been in a much better condition when republicans control the congress

Perpetual war and fuck the middle class and poor people.. Yup that is the republican playbook in a nutshell..

Republicans believe in individual liberty and freedom, limited government, just like the constitution calls for........ Dems, What constitution???

 

[hockeywings]

biggunsbob[/color]]

Perpetual war and fuck the middle class and poor people.. Yup that is the republican playbook in a nutshell..

Republicans believe in individual liberty and freedom, limited government, just like the constitution calls for........ Dems, What constitution???

I would like to ask for evidence that republicans are for individual liberty, freedom and limited government. For the past 30 years, they have been against all three of those things between a 300 percent increase in government debt under Reagan to the Patriot act under Bush. It has been bigger government spending for republicans and less individual liberty and freedom.

 

[tsmith7559]

Republicans believe in individual liberty and freedom, limited government, just like the constitution calls for........ Dems, What constitution???

I would like to ask for evidence that republicans are for individual liberty, freedom and limited government. For the past 30 years, they have been against all three of those things between a 300 percent increase in government spending under Reagan to the Patriot act under Bush. It has been bigger government spending for republicans and less individual liberty and freedom.

Dems controlled congress under Reagan. They controlled the purse strings.
Reagan plan
(1) reduce the growth of government spending,
(2) reduce the marginal tax rates on income from both labor and capital,
(3) reduce regulation, and
(4) reduce inflation by controlling the growth of the money supply.

Reagan wanted defense spending increased and Tip O'Neill wanted spending.....

 

[mhughes0021]

I would like to ask for evidence that republicans are for individual liberty, freedom and limited government. For the past 30 years, they have been against all three of those things between a 300 percent increase in government spending under Reagan to the Patriot act under Bush. It has been bigger government spending for republicans and less individual liberty and freedom.

Dems controlled congress under Reagan. They controlled the purse strings.
Reagan plan
(1) reduce the growth of government spending,
(2) reduce the marginal tax rates on income from both labor and capital,
(3) reduce regulation, and
(4) reduce inflation by controlling the growth of the money supply.

Reagan wanted defense spending increased and Tip O'Neill wanted spending.....

and reagan wasnt a very good republican either lol. Republicans love him cause of his trickle down economics paved the way for the rich to get richer, the elimination of the middle class and reduction of jobs. Other than that he sucked at being a republican and wouldnt even stand a chance to gain the nomination if his name was listed in todays day and age.

 

[hockeywings]

I would like to ask for evidence that republicans are for individual liberty, freedom and limited government. For the past 30 years, they have been against all three of those things between a 300 percent increase in government spending under Reagan to the Patriot act under Bush. It has been bigger government spending for republicans and less individual liberty and freedom.

Dems controlled congress under Reagan. They controlled the purse strings.
Reagan plan
(1) reduce the growth of government spending,
(2) reduce the marginal tax rates on income from both labor and capital,
(3) reduce regulation, and
(4) reduce inflation by controlling the growth of the money supply.

Reagan wanted defense spending increased and Tip O'Neill wanted spending.....

Try again, and here with citation unlike someone who likes to post here... http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/56More.htm

 

[tsmith7559]

do you understand congress spends the money? Reagan cut the individual tax rates and doubled revenues to the government, as your chart so elegantly points out. The fucking Dem congress spent it like drunken sailors, just like Reid & Pelosi did starting in 2007.
Only Republican congresses have controlled/balanced the budgets throughout our history

 

[hockeywings]

Try again... http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/1THE_REAGAN_YEARs.htm

I hope you actually read it.

 

[mhughes0021]

do you understand congress spends the money? Reagan cut the individual tax rates and doubled revenues to the government, as your chart so elegantly points out. The fucking Dem congress spent it like drunken sailors, just like Reid & Pelosi did starting in 2007.
Only Republican congresses have controlled/balanced the budgets throughout our history

blah blah blah...all the shit bush did doesnt fix itself. Have to spend to get the ship righted after 8 years of lunacy. Were really lucky the republicans dudnt fuck it up any worse...it was close to being insurmountable.