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2012 Electoral College Thread

has Romney gained ground: 1.) anywhere, 2.) any of the "battleground" states, or 3.) anywhere outside of the deep red states, i.e. the South, Utah, and Wyoming?

I think he's been slipping nationwide for some time now.
 
has Romney gained ground: 1.) anywhere, 2.) any of the "battleground" states, or 3.) anywhere outside of the deep red states, i.e. the South, Utah, and Wyoming?

I think he's been slipping nationwide for some time now.




OHIO – Leads Among Independents
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Ohio Newspaper Organization – Romney +28

CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac – Romney +1

American Research Group – Romney +16

Fox News – Romney +4

We Ask America – Romney +3

Public Policy Polling – Romney +2

If Romney is 2% ahead with Independents it would be a swing of 10%(Obama won them by 8% in 2008)

Obama won the state by 259,000 in 2008 with +8 in Dem turnout.

Independents comprised 1,680,000 votes out of 5,600,000 cast(2008). A swing of 10% would give Romney +168,000 from the 2008 turnout.
If the state goes +5.5 Dem Obama would lose based on Independents.
More Dems voted Republican than Republicans voted Dem(2008)



FLORIDA - Leads Among Independents
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CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac – Romney +3

Gravis Marketing – Romney +4

We Ask America – Romney +2

American Research Group – Romney +1

Florida Times Union – Romney +4

If Romney is 3% ahead on IndepeNdent Voters it would be a swing of 10%(Obama won by 7% in 2008 with Independents). Independents comprised 2,400,000 votes out of 8,300,000 cast(2008). A swing of 10%(240,000) would give Romney the state if the dem/rep turnout is the same as it was in 2008.
Obama won the state in 2008 by 235,000
Republicans have a net 240,000 in new registration in the state from 2008.
Too many polls have +9 Dem advantage when it was only 3% in 2008.



just something to look at other than the poll headline
 
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Iowa poll has a +4 Dem when in 2008 it was a +1 Republican...what changed?
shows Independents tied with 7% undecided
Republican undecided is 8%
Dem undecided only 3%

Republican registration up net +140,000 since 2008



When looking at the Colorado poll...23% of the respondants say they are likely/very likely NOT VOTING?? LOL
of the likely voters its 47.6 to 46.5 Obama
the poll also shows a 28% lead for Obama among independents(highly unlikely)
 
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http://www.examiner.com/article/gary-johnson-reaches-double-digits-ohio

A note on that Ohio Gravis poll

"When only President Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney are included, Obama leads by 45.2% to 44.3%, with 10.4% either undecided or supporting a third party candidate.

When Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson is also included, Obama leads Romney by 44.5% to 37.8%, with Johnson winning 10.6% of the vote. 7.1% are either undecided or supporting another third party candidate."

Would be nice to see a third party candidate like Johnson get more recognition. Otherwise, it's just another "lesser of two evils" election.
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/gary-johnson-reaches-double-digits-ohio

A note on that Ohio Gravis poll

"When only President Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney are included, Obama leads by 45.2% to 44.3%, with 10.4% either undecided or supporting a third party candidate.

When Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson is also included, Obama leads Romney by 44.5% to 37.8%, with Johnson winning 10.6% of the vote. 7.1% are either undecided or supporting another third party candidate."

Would be nice to see a third party candidate like Johnson get more recognition. Otherwise, it's just another "lesser of two evils" election.


idk....this poll seems a bit odd. 1/3 have no opinion on Kasich's approval???
I seriously doubt a third party candidate gets 10% or even 3%. I dont recall which poll(s) it was but they referenced Johnson as taking away from Obama and Romney equally.

Johnson is an unknown outside of New Mexico and parts of the SW
 
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Penn Poll
O=47, R-45......w/leaners O-47, R-46
for what its worth
Susquehanna Polling & Research
 
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I haven't forgotten about this thread, will be putting up a bunch of polls up (20+) later today.

I'll also be clearing out old ones, I'm setting the cut-off for old polls to a week now to avoid too much clutter.
 
I haven't forgotten about this thread, will be putting up a bunch of polls up (20+) later today.

I'll also be clearing out old ones, I'm setting the cut-off for old polls to a week now to avoid too much clutter.


You might want to wait a few days....not sure how much, but I have to believe this debate might affect some polling
 
You might want to wait a few days....not sure how much, but I have to believe this debate might affect some polling

Good point

I'll give it to the weekend, any polling org. worth a damn will probably be churning out something as fast as they can after the debate.
 
Will be posting some post-debate polls later today

3 for Colorado
1 for Iowa
1 for Virginia
1 for Wisconsin

I'll be keeping some of the old polls for states that don't have fresh post-debate ones, but I'll essentially be starting fresh.
 
only state that matters is Ohio....Mitt can't win without it.
 
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only state that matters is Ohio....Mitt can't win without it.

cant?? disagree. Would prefer to have him win it and the 2 polls out AFTER the debate show +1, -1....Rasmussen has him winning Indy's by 15pts, they also show 83% Repub voting Romney, which seems pretty low, so his task will be to win over more republicans, which is easier than indy's
 
Five thirty eight has Obama's odds of winning peaking at 87% pre-debate, currently at 78%. To me, that's a pretty big drop.

I also heard the author of that page talking about how the percentage of people willing to respond to polls when asked has dropped to around 10% (I think, I was driving, listening to radio, not 100% paying attention) and how pollers really aren't sure how well that 10% reflects the rest of the nation. For example, if the bulk of the people that answer polls tend to be people that are enthusiastic about their candidate, then movement near the middle isn't captured as well as enthusiasm at the ends of the spectrum.
 
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cant?? disagree. Would prefer to have him win it and the 2 polls out AFTER the debate show +1, -1....Rasmussen has him winning Indy's by 15pts, they also show 83% Repub voting Romney, which seems pretty low, so his task will be to win over more republicans, which is easier than indy's


no republican has won the WH without Ohio....Obama will carry Ohio.
 
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