2020 Dem candidate

[Spartanmack]

Yeah, I?m hearing blurbs that Trump is no longer entirely happy with Fox.

I don?t know if Hannity would risk alienating his audience with anything subtle or nuanced, not to mention quasi-sophisticated words the don?t know which convey multi-level meanings they don?t understand.

Kind of flies in the face of ?the rest of the elite liberal media thinks you?re stupid? messaging, which the guy has kind of branded as his stock in trade.

avoiding terms like Fauxcahontas would validate the elite liberal media's view of Fox viewers and it would mean Hannity agrees with them. dont believe everything you see in a Taylor Swift video! I don't watch Fox but the people I know who do are all college educated or better. I think Hannity would be safe using the term.

 

[tinselwolverine]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5WRUqkQm3s

 

[byco42]

I wonder what placebo Bernie fed the guy who can't take all the pills he's supposed to take. Bernie also looks like he's certainly eating well, and he clearly loves children.

 

[Spartanmack]

I wonder what placebo Bernie fed the guy who can't take all the pills he's supposed to take. Bernie also looks like he's certainly eating well, and he clearly loves children.

not enough to save them, particularly the ones in poor countries he thinks should be sacrificed to save the planet and the US should help pay to abort them (because they're poor).

 

[tinselwolverine]

not enough to save them, particularly the ones in poor countries he thinks should be sacrificed to save the planet and the US should help pay to abort them (because they're poor).

His emphasis was as on women having the option use birth control; I doubt anyone would argue that birth control is not vastly better to avoid unwanted pregnancies than dealing with them through abortion.

Not that I?m jumping on the Bernie wagon, but I?ve been hearing what he said mischaracterized several times the last couple of days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bksQ5szyEs8

 

[Spartanmack]

His emphasis was as on women having the option use birth control; I doubt anyone would argue that birth control is not vastly better to avoid unwanted pregnancies than dealing with them through abortion.

Not that I?m jumping on the Bernie wagon, but I?ve been hearing what he said mischaracterized several times the last couple of days.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bksQ5szyEs8

I have no issue with his stance on birth control but he specifically voiced his support for abortion and said it was absurd that the US won't allow it's foreign aid funds to be used to finance abortion in poor countries. He didn't imply it, he specifically said abortion should be part of the population control plan to save the planet - from something that we're not even sure is going to happen or that population growth is part of the cause, if it is in fact going to happen. He also recently praised communist China for doing more to eradicate extreme poverty than any other nation - which they did in large part by murdering over 65 million of their own people. In the past he has praised oppressive, murderous dictators in Cuba and Venezuela and said that bread lines were a good thing.

On top of being a no good, dirty smelly hippy turned layabout hypocrite government bureaucrat, Bernie Sanders is an amoral, power hungry scumbag of the highest order.

 

[jwlcosu]

I watch this pooch parade of democrat candidates and I just can?t fathom how their brains work. They want to end coal, end fracking, end fossil fuels, end internal combustion engines, end plastic straws, end meat. The list goes on.

I fully acknowledge that it may be me, but there is no doubt that someone and/or one way of thinking is losing its grip on reality. It?s either me, and like-minded people, or the democrat party as represented by these bunch of fools. Middle ground has become terribly difficult to find.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I have no issue with his stance on birth control but he specifically voiced his support for abortion and said it was absurd that the US won't allow it's foreign aid funds to be used to finance abortion in poor countries. He didn't imply it, he specifically said abortion should be part of the population control plan to save the planet - from something that we're not even sure is going to happen or that population growth is part of the cause, if it is in fact going to happen. He also recently praised communist China for doing more to eradicate extreme poverty than any other nation - which they did in large part by murdering over 65 million of their own people. In the past he has praised oppressive, murderous dictators in Cuba and Venezuela and said that bread lines were a good thing.

On top of being a no good, dirty smelly hippy turned layabout hypocrite government bureaucrat, Bernie Sanders is an amoral, power hungry scumbag of the highest order.

I watched it and saw him emphasizing birth control - not saying he?s not pro-choice.

He would probably prefer access to birth control above abortion.

Again, not that I am jumping on the Bernie bandwagon.

 

[Spartanmack]

I watched it and saw him emphasizing birth control - not saying he?s not pro-choice.

He would probably prefer access to birth control above abortion.

Again, not that I am jumping on the Bernie bandwagon.

he MAY well prefer it but I don't think by much - he first talked specifically about abortion and then mentioned birth control as part of the program to save the planet. When he followed up with birth control, I think he includes abortion there as a form of birth control.

The man is a depraved, shameless hypocrite. I don't think you're jumping on the bandwagon, we just have a different take on what he was saying.

 

[Michchamp]

he MAY well prefer it but I don't think by much - ...

You ?don?t think...??

Well just keep repeating it like it?s not just your opinion then. You?ll win the debate going on in your own head.

 

[sggatecl]

I watch this pooch parade of democrat candidates and I just can?t fathom how their brains work. They want to end coal, end fracking, end fossil fuels, end internal combustion engines, end plastic straws, end meat. The list goes on

Holy generalization Batman. You started off strong but as your list went on it started grasping at the talking points of the extreme left. Just as bad as those that try to paint all conservatives as racist, polluting, homophobes. There is a pretty big divide in this country, it doesn't need the added hyperbole.

 

[jwlcosu]

Holy generalization Batman. You started off strong but as your list went on it started grasping at the talking points of the extreme left. Just as bad as those that try to paint all conservatives as racist, polluting, homophobes. There is a pretty big divide in this country, it doesn't need the added hyperbole.

Those are the talking points of the candidates. Did you watch the CNN climate change extravaganza the other night? They are the extreme left. That?s what the party has become.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/ban-everything.php

 

[sggatecl]

Those are the talking points of the candidates. Did you watch the CNN climate change extravaganza the other night? They are the extreme left. That?s what the party has become.

I didn't recall hearing meat or straws brought up in any of the debates I watched. But I also won't claim to be glued to my seat during them either. Not a very inspiring group.

I'm with them on the push for renewable resources. Whether you think climate change is a hoax/scam perpetuated by scientists or not, coal/fracking/etc aren't good for the planet. It's one of the main issues that keeps me from being a full blown conservative.

 

[jwlcosu]

I didn't recall hearing meat or straws brought up in any of the debates I watched. But I also won't claim to be glued to my seat during them either. Not a very inspiring group.

I'm with them on the push for renewable resources. Whether you think climate change is a hoax/scam perpetuated by scientists or not, coal/fracking/etc aren't good for the planet. It's one of the main issues that keeps me from being a full blown conservative.

I would be in on a 100 year plan to eliminate fossils but these clowns say the world is ending in 10 years. The modern democrat party has gone full crazy.

 

[Thumb]

I would be in on a 100 year plan to eliminate fossils but these clowns say the world is ending in 10 years. The modern democrat party has gone full crazy.

Can you post a link to a quote where one of these "clowns" said the world is ending in 10 years please.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Can you post a link to a quote where one of these "clowns" said the world is ending in 10 years please.

AOC.

12 years, actually, but what?s a couple of years difference when we?re talking about predictions of doomsday?

I don?t know if AOC is one of the ?clowns? To whom JWELSCLO is referring to or not.

There?s a quote.

Later, she walk it back, saying this, mocking anyone who would take what she said seriously.

So when are we supposed to know she?s being serious, and when are we just that stupid that when she?s joking, we can?t figure out that she?s joking?

She is very much like the president.

She says whatever the fuck she wants to says whenever the fuck she wants to say it, without any sense of accountability whatsoever.

 

[tinselwolverine]

he MAY well prefer it but I don't think by much - he first talked specifically about abortion and then mentioned birth control as part of the program to save the planet. When he followed up with birth control, I think he includes abortion there as a form of birth control.

The man is a depraved, shameless hypocrite. I don't think you're jumping on the bandwagon, we just have a different take on what he was saying.

Okay, cool.

In #625, I was speaking to specific mischaracterizations that I have heard in the media, and I will address those specifically here.

On 790 K ABC Los Angeles, for about the last nine months, there has been a conservative radio show host name Larry O?Connor, who played the Sanders clip that I copy pasted here, and then jumped to comparing it to Sanders advocating for the euthanizing of old people who have outlived their usefulness.

What the fuck? First of all, how does O?Connor jump from that to that, and second of all why would Sanders be advocating that? He?s both!

I don?t have the clip of that, but I do have this clip of the ladies of the View, talking about what Sanders said, and bringing in a tweet of C Cupp, whom I generally kinda like-I especially like to make fun of her name because she?s DC hot and I?m a faux misogynist who likes to pretend to objectify women - freaking compared what Sander said to eugenics - and the two conservative gals, Abby Huntsman and Meghan McCain, whom I also actually both generally like - came to C Cupp?s defense!

What the fuck! What did Sander say that had anything to do with euthanasia or eugenics?

Below is the clip of the discussion from The View - starting @5:40 through about 11:20.

Sanders says enough shit that people don?t like without having his political rivals in the media needing to make shit up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9NoxrOWEeI

 

[Spartanmack]

You ?don?t think...??

Well just keep repeating it like it?s not just your opinion then. You?ll win the debate going on in your own head.

this is how discussion works - i say what I think and the other person says what they think. you would understand that if you were capable of thinking for yourself.

In my opinion, bernie is clise to if not completely indifferent when it comes to preventing pregnancy or terminatong it. he is an amoral, depraved moron who doesnt understand basic economics and has never accomplished anything beyond winning elections.

only idiots think his policies are good ideas and will work - and that is not my opinion, it is a fact.

 

[Spartanmack]

Okay, cool.

In #625, I was speaking to specific mischaracterizations that I have heard in the media, and I will address those specifically here.

On 790 K ABC Los Angeles, for about the last nine months, there has been a conservative radio show host name Larry O?Connor, who played the Sanders clip that I copy pasted here, and then jumped to comparing it to Sanders advocating for the euthanizing of old people who have outlived their usefulness.

What the fuck? First of all, how does O?Connor jump from that to that, and second of all why would Sanders be advocating that? He?s both!

I don?t have the clip of that, but I do have this clip of the ladies of the View, talking about what Sanders said, and bringing in a tweet of C Cupp, whom I generally kinda like-I especially like to make fun of her name because she?s DC hot and I?m a faux misogynist who likes to pretend to objectify women - freaking compared what Sander said to eugenics - and the two conservative gals, Abby Huntsman and Meghan McCain, whom I also actually both generally like - came to C Cupp?s defense!

What the fuck! What did Sander say that had anything to do with euthanasia or eugenics?

Below is the clip of the discussion from The View - starting @5:40 through about 11:20.

Sanders says enough shit that people don?t like without having his political rivals in the media needing to make shit up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9NoxrOWEeI

i didnt hear the radio broadcast or see the view. on the first count, i would agree it sounds like a mischaracterization. the eugenics comment may be astretch as well but it is definitely debatable - abortion to control the population to save the planet sounds like eugenics to me. However, it is not at all a mischaracterization to say Bernie included abortion in the tool kit for population control to save the planet.

That is some messed up shit and whats even more messed up is the media cares more about nailing Trump for saying hurricane Dorian was on a path to hit Alabama. i read a few sentences of a piece from wapo talking about how he committed a crime by altering a NWS map when he drew it with a sharpie and needed to be held accountable. the press is literally spending days on Sharpiegate and totally fine with a candidate for president who advocates murdering unborn babies to protect the environment.

 

[Spartanmack]

I didn't recall hearing meat or straws brought up in any of the debates I watched. But I also won't claim to be glued to my seat during them either. Not a very inspiring group.

I'm with them on the push for renewable resources. Whether you think climate change is a hoax/scam perpetuated by scientists or not, coal/fracking/etc aren't good for the planet. It's one of the main issues that keeps me from being a full blown conservative.

yang talked about all that stuff yesterday or the day before. everything he talked about, getting rid of air travl, vegetarianism on levels that would require compulsion, plus guaranteed living wage jobs for those who want to work and a subsidy for those who dont, etc are all part of the Green New Deal virtually all of them have signed on to. its pretty clear this Green New Deal that will be a bigger failure than the New Deal, is more about increased govt control than saving the planet.