2020 Dem candidate

[tigermud]

Trump must be really popular!

Not watching either, I?m watching oak island now

 

[tomdalton22]

Well that Bernie staffer will prolly get fired

https://youtu.be/BsUAvh_PCWA

shouldn't this be posted in the "Man, Bernie Sanders is so great" thread?

 

[sggatecl]

There might be more people at the trump rally in WI tonight than people watching the dem debate

Even if there's not, he will say he broke attendance records and his supporters won't bat an eye. :shrug:

 

[Spartanmack]

Trump must be really popular!

he is, check out the reception he got at the LSU/Clemson game.

 

[Spartanmack]

Okay.

You probably noticed on 116 of this that I 100% support what Trump did and I think his critics are absolutely picking the wrong fight politically here - I was actually looking for a video clip of Speier and Buttigieg?s responses to use as examples.

I would say that everyone like me applauds Trump on this and gets it.

If he has people like me on a point, he doesn?t have to go as far as he does, ESPECIALLY when his opponents are shooting themselves in the foot as it is.

i hear you, i just don't think its going all that far, particularly compared to what's been said about him by elected officials who should be held to the same level of decorum as him. And more importantly, while I wish it weren't this way, it's clear that you don't win by taking the high road against a side who does exactly the same thing if not worse, but gets away with it because they think it's OK when their side does it.

 

[Michchamp]

Not watching either, I?m watching oak island now

Oak Island is where the aliens from Uranus buried their treasure.

 

[sggatecl]

Highlights for me in my minimal 30 minutes of watching:

Joe Biden citing a "woe is me" moment in his early life where he only made $42,000. That daft twat is so out of touch, with inflation I bet that was pretty damn comfortable.

CNN (Clinton News Network) railroading Bernie again. Setting the stage for another split democratic vote and eventual 2nd Trump term. Which for ratings is 100% OK by them.

CNN moderator(s) has/have zero charisma. PBS did far better. I started to fall asleep faster than a debate would normally make me.

Questions sucked too. Nothing about real issues that I saw. Apparently some drama between Bernie and Warren. Fauxahontas claims Bernie said a woman couldn't win the White House in 2020, trying to rile up SJWs and the like. Was like watching a political TMZ episode for a moment.

Fuck CNN and fuck the democrats. Only in a field this shitty would a guy like Trump be sitting pretty for a 2nd term.

 

[Michchamp]

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CNN (Clinton News Network) railroading Bernie again. Setting the stage for another split democratic vote and eventual 2nd Trump term. Which for ratings is 100% OK by them.

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How this possible? CNN is liberal brainwash fake news? why would they not prefer the farthest left candidate? me not understand. does not compute

 

[tigermud]

Oak Island is where the aliens from Uranus buried their treasure.

No, aliens are not among the top 21 theories. these guys are Michigan natives, have some respect.
https://www.history.com/shows/the-curse-of-oak-island/articles/curse-of-oak-island-top-theories.

 

[Spartanmack]

How this possible? CNN is liberal brainwash fake news? why would they not prefer the farthest left candidate? me not understand. does not compute

are you trying to say CNN isn't biased in favor of Dems? If so, the reason you not understand is that you're dumb. Which would explain your support for Bernie Sanders.

 

[tinselwolverine]

How this possible? CNN is liberal brainwash fake news? why would they not prefer the farthest left candidate?

That?s MSNBC.

CNN has branded itself specifically as the network of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

MSNBC is no more deranged over Trump than they would be by any other Republican.

Clinton News Network is an old nickname from the days of the Clinton Administration, at least as I understand it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Highlights for me in my minimal 30 minutes of watching:

Joe Biden citing a "woe is me" moment in his early life where he only made $42,000. That daft twat is so out of touch, with inflation I bet that was pretty damn comfortable.

CNN (Clinton News Network) railroading Bernie again. Setting the stage for another split democratic vote and eventual 2nd Trump term. Which for ratings is 100% OK by them.

TDS is their stock in trade.

I heard Dershowitz on the radio talking to Drew Pinsky and he said something that I had observed already-CNN has literally branded itself as being the network of anti-Trump.

It?s a complete marketing gimmick. MSNBC was the cable network of the left and Fox was the cable network of the right. CNN was getting pounded in the ratings doing straight news and they needed a strategic brand identification, and TDS fit the bill.

 

[Spartanmack]

TDS is their stock in trade.

I heard Dershowitz on the radio talking to Drew Pinsky and he said something that I had observed already-CNN has literally branded itself as being the network of anti-Trump.

It?s a complete marketing gimmick. MSNBC was the cable network of the left and Fox was the cable network of the right. CNN was getting pounded in the ratings doing straight news and they needed a strategic brand identification, and TDS fit the bill.

CNN may not be as far left as MSNBC - they don't have Rachel Madow or Chris Hayes (aka the female Rachel Madow) but they've been strongly left leaning for decades. They got their nickname, the Clinton New Network because of their pro Democrat, anti-Republican bias back in the 90s.

 

[tinselwolverine]

CNN may not be as far left as MSNBC - they don't have Rachel Madow or Chris Hayes (aka the female Rachel Madow) but they've been strongly left leaning for decades. They got their nickname, the Clinton New Network because of their pro Democrat, anti-Republican bias back in the 90s.

Okay.

Back in 90s I was actually a Republican and even a little bit of an activist, and yeah, I saw the media as having a little bias, but 1) not as much as my fellow Republican friends did and 2) it didn?t actually matter, because a) liberals were going to insist the the media actually had a conservative bias and b) moderates knew the media was a little bias to left and would take that into account.

I actually had more arguments with my fellow Republicans about this than any other political argument.

When MSNBC came along and kind of put a stake hold into the left, after Fox had done the same with the right, I saw CNN as getting more to straight reporting - except cable news had/has devolved into a tribal blood sport and cable news watchers want to root for their own side more than anything else, and reporting really wasn?t a viable market niche.

So, flanked on both sides of the political spectrum, CNN struck out on a specific tangent that wasn?t exactly either one - Trump Derangement Syndrome.

 

[Michchamp]

CNN may not be as far left as MSNBC - they don't have Rachel Madow or Chris Hayes (aka the female Rachel Madow) but they've been strongly left leaning for decades. They got their nickname, the Clinton New Network because of their pro Democrat, anti-Republican bias back in the 90s.

MSNBC hates Bernie as much as CNN does.

How does that square if Bernie is the farthest left candidate, but both seem to prefer the farthest right among the field (Buttigieg, or Biden)?

 

[Spartanmack]

MSNBC hates Bernie as much as CNN does.

How does that square if Bernie is the farthest left candidate, but both seem to prefer the farthest right among the field (Buttigieg, or Biden)?

if this was true, which it's not, it doesn't have to square with anything. Having a liberal bias doesn't mean they have to go full idiot and endorse the farthest left shiftless, layabout loonbag hypocrite moron in the race. They're doing what a lot of the left leaning corporate media does, hitching their wagon to Democrat they think has the best shot at winning.

Don't worry, if they're successful at destroying that buffoon and getting their guy the nomination, they'll immediately shift what little of their ire temporarily directed at Bernie over to Trump and every Republican running for Congress. Of course, it's amazing that they even need to shit on the guy, if there weren't so many dumb people in America, Bernie would simply be destroying himself.

 

[Spartanmack]

Okay.

Back in 90s I was actually a Republican and even a little bit of an activist, and yeah, I saw the media as having a little bias, but 1) not as much as my fellow Republican friends did and 2) it didn?t actually matter, because a) liberals were going to insist the the media actually had a conservative bias and b) moderates knew the media was a little bias to left and would take that into account.

I actually had more arguments with my fellow Republicans about this than any other political argument.

When MSNBC came along and kind of put a stake hold into the left, after Fox had done the same with the right, I saw CNN as getting more to straight reporting - except cable news had/has devolved into a tribal blood sport and cable news watchers want to root for their own side more than anything else, and reporting really wasn?t a viable market niche.

So, flanked on both sides of the political spectrum, CNN struck out on a specific tangent that wasn?t exactly either one - Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I started watching CNN with a more critical eye as a college student starting with Wolf Blitzer's reporting on Desert Storm and as a young adult in my Chicago days with all the talking heads on there carrying water for the Clintons, aiding and abetting in Bill's misdeeds both sexual, political and professional. MSNBC didn't exist back then to make them look more centrist by comparison and neither did Fox News to make them look more extreme left, but if I ever thought CNN was engaging in straight reporting, it would have been when I was too young to know better and too young to remember it because I don't.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I started watching CNN with a more critical eye as a college student starting with Wolf Blitzer's reporting on Desert Storm and as a young adult in my Chicago days with all the talking heads on there carrying water for the Clintons, aiding and abetting in Bill's misdeeds both sexual, political and professional. MSNBC didn't exist back then to make them look more centrist by comparison and neither did Fox News to make them look more extreme left, but if I ever thought CNN was engaging in straight reporting, it would have been when I was too young to know better and too young to remember it because I don't.

Fox News started about a month before Clinton was re-elected; I started watching it almost from the beginning.

Clinton?s first term was about a quarter century ago plus; I don?t recall that I really paid much attention CNN specifically then.

It seemed to me that CNN went to straight reporting for a while after MSNBC got a strong foot hold on the left, but that?s just my opinion.

 

[Michchamp]

if this was true, which it's not, it doesn't have to square with anything. Having a liberal bias doesn't mean they have to go full idiot and endorse the farthest left shiftless, layabout loonbag hypocrite moron in the race. They're doing what a lot of the left leaning corporate media does, hitching their wagon to Democrat they think has the best shot at winning.

Don't worry, if they're successful at destroying that buffoon and getting their guy the nomination, they'll immediately shift what little of their ire temporarily directed at Bernie over to Trump and every Republican running for Congress. Of course, it's amazing that they even need to shit on the guy, if there weren't so many dumb people in America, Bernie would simply be destroying himself.

Did you shake your tiny fist at Bernie when you finished writing this?

 

[sggatecl]

Of course, it's amazing that they even need to shit on the guy, if there weren't so many dumb people in America, Bernie would simply be destroying himself.

I think his recent surge in the polls and leading all Dems in fund raising forced their hand a bit.