2020 Dem candidate

[sggatecl]

Wrong

Which part? Seemed pretty accurate.

 

[tigermud]

Which part? Seemed pretty accurate.

the part where you still can't offer a better option. He has done more to help bring about better trade deals in 3 years than all the repodems combined did from the last 25.

 

[sggatecl]

the part where you still can't offer a better option. He has done more to help bring about better trade deals in 3 years than all the repodems combined did from the last 25.

Economy trajectory hasn't changed significantly at all since 2010. But you keep hanging your hat on a couple 'trade deals'. Even if you believe there isnt a better option, you can and should still demand better.

 

[Spartanmack]

Economy trajectory hasn't changed significantly at all since 2010. But you keep hanging your hat on a couple 'trade deals'. Even if you believe there isnt a better option, you can and should still demand better.

That?s not true - minority unemployment has gone down way faster, wages for the bottom 2 quintiles have grown faster than any others the past 2 quarters after stagnating for years, we?ve had some of our biggest quarters of GDP growth - not easy to do in the 9th and 10th years of an expansion. To say all he?s done is negotiate 2 trade deals, particularly the one with China is disingenuous and clearly false.

He?s pushed through tax reform, moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, slowed the flow of illegal immigrants across our southern border, rightly put America first as his foreign relations policy, reformed the VA, unwound much of Obama?s executive overreach and horrible legacy to mention a few.

The idea that he has just been delivering for the billionaires, corporations and establishment Rs & Ds is just a widely debunked and laughably stupid accusation from socialist and communist moronic Bernie Sanders supporters.

 

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That?s not true - minority unemployment has gone down way faster, wages for the bottom 2 quintiles have grown faster than any others the past 2 quarters after stagnating for years, we?ve had some of our biggest quarters of GDP growth - not easy to do in the 9th and 10th years of an expansion. To say all he?s done is negotiate 2 trade deals, particularly the one with China is disingenuous and clearly false.

He?s pushed through tax reform, moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, slowed the flow of illegal immigrants across our southern border, rightly put America first as his foreign relations policy, reformed the VA, unwound much of Obama?s executive overreach and horrible legacy to mention a few.

The idea that he has just been delivering for the billionaires, corporations and establishment Rs & Ds is just a widely debunked and laughably stupid accusation from socialist and communist moronic Bernie Sanders supporters.

So much trash in this post it's hard to know where to begin...

(A) "He?s pushed through tax reform", Tax reform that mostly benefits the wealthy and will grow the deficit by 448 Billion in 10 years, and the "individual" tax cuts every retardlican praises for helping the "everyman" expire in 2027 and become a tax increase, while corporate tax cuts are permanent, but don't believe these facts or you're just a Bernie loving commie bastard!

(B) "moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem", Thank god! how did we evvverrrrrrr have any stable relations with Israel over the past 60+ years with the embassy in Tel Aviv??!!?!!?!?? The idea that this was some great accomplishment proves how delusional you really are.

(C) "slowed the flow of illegal immigrants across our southern border", Still no wall, Mexico still not paying for it....MAGA!

(D) "rightly put America first as his foreign relations policy", Yep. Well except when it comes to Saudi Arabia and their magic glowing orb...They murdered a US citizen, he yawned, then the public outcry over it, and his lack of response, he then shrugged in the strongest possible tone. Inspiring leader that guy!

(E) "reformed the VA", Oops...


Now make sure you fire back a witty retort laden with insults and edits and claims of winning the internets or the chicoms win!

 

[Spartanmack]

So much trash in this post it's hard to know where to begin...

(A) "He?s pushed through tax reform", Tax reform that mostly benefits the wealthy and will grow the deficit by 448 Billion in 10 years, and the "individual" tax cuts every retardlican praises for helping the "everyman" expire in 2027 and become a tax increase, while corporate tax cuts are permanent, but don't believe these facts or you're just a Bernie loving commie bastard!

(B) "moved the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem", Thank god! how did we evvverrrrrrr have any stable relations with Israel over the past 60+ years with the embassy in Tel Aviv??!!?!!?!?? The idea that this was some great accomplishment proves how delusional you really are.

(C) "slowed the flow of illegal immigrants across our southern border", Still no wall, Mexico still not paying for it....MAGA!

(D) "rightly put America first as his foreign relations policy", Yep. Well except when it comes to Saudi Arabia and their magic glowing orb...They murdered a US citizen, he yawned, then the public outcry over it, and his lack of response, he then shrugged in the strongest possible tone. Inspiring leader that guy!

(E) "reformed the VA", Oops...


Now make sure you fire back a witty retort laden with insults and edits and claims of winning the internets or the chicoms win!

A) no, it doesn?t mostly affect the rich and it?s been in effect for 2 years with 7 more to go before 2027. I agree it doesn?t go far enough but we can hopefully get the Corp tax rate to 0 and make the individual tax cuts deeper and permanent in the next 7 years. Also tax cuts aren?t adding to the deficit, spending is. If you want to criticize him for not reigning in spending, I would agree that?s a fair criticism. Hopefully, he and future presidents can get congress to concentrate on reducing that side of the equation very soon.

B) many presidents have promised to do that and not delivered. It may not be important to you but it?s both a sign that he gets things done others don?t have the will to do and it sends a message to our most important ally in that region. To you, maybe it?s just like moving from one house to another, but to people paying attention, it matters - it even matters to a lot of people on your side but only because they don?t like the move because they support terrorists and hate Jews.

C) first you discount something as a symbolic victory (your point B) now you?re diminishing progress on illegal immigration because he doesn?t have a symbolic victory (in your mind) of ?the Wall.? Just give it time, he?s still working on it but even if it never happens, he's already done more to secure our border than any President in the last 30+ years.

D) are you really arguing he isn?t more America first than his predecessors on these grounds? You?re gonna have to do better if you want to be taken seriously.

E) Oops... these folks seem to have a different take on how the bill Trump asked for and signed improves on the ?troubled veterans choice act? signed by Obama.

Thanks for the advice but I don?t claim to win the internets or talk about chicom?s except that one time I finally asked tigermud what a chicom is. And I prefer using facts and avoid insulting other posters until they insult me at which point I add rather witty digs at them in addition to disproving their nonsense with facts.

 

[sggatecl]

That?s not true - minority unemployment has gone down way faster

The numbers simply don't back that statement up.

wages for the bottom 2 quintiles have grown faster than any others the past 2 quarters after stagnating for years

The 3rd and 4th quartiles have been steadily increasing since 2014. Even Trump's best quartile (the 1st, of course) doesn't come close to pre 2002 wage growth levels (4.6% vs 7.0%) so I'm not aware of the records you're speaking of.

we?ve had some of our biggest quarters of GDP growth - not easy to do in the 9th and 10th years of an expansion.

Again, I just don't see this massive difference you're referring to.

 

[tomdalton22]

Blacks and Hispanics need to go out and get jobs...lazy bums

 

[tigermud]

Every time I try to play something at Youtube lately I'm flooded with Mike Bloomberg ads first. How annoying. nobody else just bloomberg. f'k him.

 

[sggatecl]

Every time I try to play something at Youtube lately I'm flooded with Mike Bloomberg ads first. How annoying. nobody else just bloomberg. f'k him.

He's spending an absurd amount of money. But it seems to be working. He's already passed Mayor Pete in several polls.

 

[Michchamp]

Every time I try to play something at Youtube lately I'm flooded with Mike Bloomberg ads first. How annoying. nobody else just bloomberg. f'k him.

His ad spending is off the charts compared to most of the Democratic field. Tom Steyer came closest to him and he was only spending about half what Bloomberg was.

If Bloomberg would've put in the effort to actually campaign and build a movement (like Bernie has) he might be a serious candidate. But like all billionaires, he'd rather throw money around than actually work.

 

[tigermud]

His ad spending is off the charts compared to most of the Democratic field. Tom Steyer came closest to him and he was only spending about half what Bloomberg was.

If Bloomberg would've put in the effort to actually campaign and build a movement (like Bernie has) he might be a serious candidate. But like all billionaires, he'd rather throw money around than actually work.

my gut says he is going to end up going third party with the goal of taking just enough away from Trump to put Bernie in. That is if Hillary doesn't yet still find away to steal it at a brokered convention. Oh you better believe it! either way, whatever happens the econ and markets will tank starting in Jan 2021, plan accordingly.

 

[Michchamp]

my gut says he is going to end up going third party with the goal of taking just enough away from Trump to put Bernie in. That is if Hillary doesn't yet still find away to steal it at a brokered convention. Oh you better believe it! either way, whatever happens the econ and markets will tank starting in Jan 2021, plan accordingly.

no, you're almost there, but Bloomberg - and the DNC, and Pelosi, etc. - would rather see Trump in office than Bernie.

They don't have a problem with Trump. They have more problems with Bernie; Bernie is the only one outside the "arrangement" the Democrats and Republicans have

 

[tigermud]

no, you're almost there, but Bloomberg - and the DNC, and Pelosi, etc. - would rather see Trump in office than Bernie.

They don't have a problem with Trump. They have more problems with Bernie; Bernie is the only one outside the "arrangement" the Democrats and Republicans have

I really do wish Bernie wasn't so wrong on about half the issues. There are certain things I like about him, just not enough unfortunately.

 

[Michchamp]

my gut says he is going to end up going third party with the goal of taking just enough away from Trump to put Bernie in. That is if Hillary doesn't yet still find away to steal it at a brokered convention. Oh you better believe it! either way, whatever happens the econ and markets will tank starting in Jan 2021, plan accordingly.

Hillary is toast. It's clear no one wants her around; the establishment already lined up behind Biden & they're talking about Kamala Harris as his running mate, which makes it harder for many voters to see how racist Biden's political record is, and shores up this liability for Biden, since Biden's support among African Americans has started to slide a bit.

Even a lot of Clinton's prior allies and some of her 2016 staff hid when she started attacking Bernie recently (which backfired b/c he shot to the top of the polling)

 

[Spartanmack]

no, you're almost there, but Bloomberg - and the DNC, and Pelosi, etc. - would rather see Trump in office than Bernie.

They don't have a problem with Trump. They have more problems with Bernie; Bernie is the only one outside the "arrangement" the Democrats and Republicans have

They dont have a problem with Trump which is why they have been trying to overturn the election for 3 years and counting. It?s why they are shooting themselves in the foot with this impeachment fiasco. They love him so much because he?s one of them.

 

[tigermud]

Hillary is toast. It's clear no one wants her around; the establishment already lined up behind Biden & they're talking about Kamala Harris as his running mate, which makes it harder for many voters to see how racist Biden's political record is, and shores up this liability for Biden, since Biden's support among African Americans has started to slide a bit.

Even a lot of Clinton's prior allies and some of her 2016 staff hid when she started attacking Bernie recently (which backfired b/c he shot to the top of the polling)

Biden would be a huge mistake, the ol creep doesn't even know what planet he's on half the time. Really don't want a guy with dementia running the country that would just be so incredibly bad.

 

[tomdalton22]

Every time I try to play something at Youtube lately I'm flooded with Mike Bloomberg ads first. How annoying. nobody else just bloomberg. f'k him.

I was just pulling a youtube video and the add was for Bernie. Maybe I'll vote for him :lmao:

 

[tigermud]

I was just pulling a youtube video and the add was for Bernie. Maybe I'll vote for him :lmao:

I haven?t gotten any Bernie ads yet

 

[tigermud]

This guy is not stable

Democrat presidential frontrunner Joe Biden snapped at a former Iowa Democrat representative just days before the first primary vote of 2020, urging him to ?go vote for someone else.?

During a campaign stop in Iowa, former state rep Ed Fallon approached Biden about implementing far-left environmental policies, assuring him that he would vote for Biden in the general election against President Trump.
?Go vote for someone else,? Biden replied as he pushed and poked Fallon.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1222277044538683392