2020 Dem candidate

[Spartanmack]

The numbers simply don't back that statement up.

Maybe when you only look at the headline number, but it's not that simple. Under Obama the bulk of the decrease in unemployment came from discouraged workers leaving the labor force - when you decrease the numerator and denominator 1 for 1, the ratio (the unemployment rate) goes down. Under Trump the Labor Force Participation rate starts to rise which by itself would lead to an increase in unemployment but unemployment continues to to decrease.

Click on "Black or African American" and "Hispanic or Latino" in this chart to see the trends

When you scratch the surface a little bit, it's clear that the numbers do back up the statement.

The 3rd and 4th quartiles have been steadily increasing since 2014. Even Trump's best quartile (the 1st, of course) doesn't come close to pre 2002 wage growth levels (4.6% vs 7.0%) so I'm not aware of the records you're speaking of.

Doesn't really change the fact that the bottom two quintiles have had the fastest growth rate over the past two quarters - something that didn't happen under Obama. Backs up the point that Trump's economy and policies don't benefit the rich at the expense of the poor and working class and that Trump's policies appear to be helping the poor and working class more than Obama's ever did.

Again, I just don't see this massive difference you're referring to.

the economy under Obama may have had some higher highs, but it also had much, much lower lows turning negative twice not counting the 2009 recession. The economy so far under Trump has been positive and consistent. In 32 quarters during the Obama administration there were 5 quarters that outpaced GDP during Trumps 12 and 2 of those happened during the snap back from 2009. You have to play around with the slide on the timeline a little bit to zero in on the right date range...

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1Q225SBEA

 

[tigermud]

Establishment dems are terrified Bernie is going to win don?t think he can beat trump

1. I don?t know why they are surprised he?s surging, he did win in 2016 too.
2. I think he has a much greater chance of beating trump than Biden does
3. Bloomberg I run puts Bernie on office
4. Pray the republicans take back the house and keep the senate to keep the socialist dems from running everything right into the green new deal free equally assured misery for all abyss

 

[tigermud]

DNC plotting to steal it from Bernie again, they’ll vote for Hillary

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083

 

[tinselwolverine]

DNC plotting to steal it from Bernie again, they?ll vote for Hillary

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083

They may rob Bernie again, but I just don?t see that they would shoot themselves in the foot again with Hillary.

This time, she possibly wouldn?t win a single state.

 

[sggatecl]

This time, she possibly wouldn?t win a single state.

I agree. I think there is enough brain power (barely) within the party to realize that the reason Hillary lost to Trump was not because of Russia or Bernie or Fox News. It was because Hillary is/was a terrible candidate.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I agree. I think there is enough brain power (barely) within the party to realize that the reason Hillary lost to Trump was not because of Russia or Bernie or Fox News. It was because Hillary is/was a terrible candidate.

So, anyway...the primaries/caucuses start tomorrow, or something.

If Bernie gets off to a fast start...it is going to be a LOT of fun watching the DNC squirm.

PIPE DREAM - But shit not entirely unlike this HAS happened - if active duty reservist military hero the Honorable Tulsi Gabbard does better than expected - the DNC is gonna have its panties in a bunch, like the bunch is a vice, and the vice is squashing its nuts.

 

[Spartanmack]

They may rob Bernie again, but I just don?t see that they would shoot themselves in the foot again with Hillary.

This time, she possibly wouldn?t win a single state.

Who would take CA, NY and NJ? Bloomberg? I always thought that guy was a Russian asset.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I guess it was a little bit hyperbole.

Hillary would still win the bluest of the blue.

She ain’t gonna be nominated though.

 

[sggatecl]

So, anyway...the primaries/caucuses start tomorrow, or something.

If Bernie gets off to a fast start...it is going to be a LOT of fun watching the DNC squirm.

PIPE DREAM - But shit not entirely unlike this HAS happened - if active duty reservist military hero the Honorable Tulsi Gabbard does better than expected - the DNC is gonna have its panties in a bunch, like the bunch is a vice, and the vice is squashing its nuts.

Tulsi, Bernie, Yang in any order would be the funniest thing in US political history. The DNC would implode.

 

[tigermud]

Tucker just predicted that after Bernie is announced the Iowa winner tonight, CNN panels will tell their viewers that Iowa and NH have so many white voters that this doesn’t matter LOL he’s probably right

 

[sggatecl]

DNC mulls asking Donald Trump to run as Democrat in effort to thwart Bernie Sanders

 

[sggatecl]

By 11 p.m. Eastern in 2008, 98 percent of Iowa precincts were already reporting. By 11 p.m. Eastern in 2016, 90 percent of precincts were reporting. At 11 p.m. Eastern tonight, 2 percent of precincts are reporting.

I wonder if this is the final time Iowa gets to go first. People losing their minds.

 

[Michchamp]

DNC hacks are going to drag this out as long as they can.

I'm still not 100% clear on how the caucus thing works, but the first couple reports I saw, looked to be overwhelmingly pro-Sanders. but I don't know if those are going to be typical of the rest of the state.

 

[tigermud]

Well this 2020 dem vote thingy is off to a smashingly clown show start. I can’t stay up and watch anymore of this clown show it’s past my bed time..freaking clowns

 

[Michchamp]

Well this 2020 dem vote thingy is off to a smashingly clown show start. I can?t stay up and watch anymore of this clown show it?s past my bed time..freaking clowns

LOL, have you forgotten what the 2016 GOP primary was like?

 

[tinselwolverine]

problems in Iowa count...i.e...Bernie probably getting boned...

 

[Spartanmack]

LOL, have you forgotten what the 2016 GOP primary was like?

LOL, nice try on the whataboutism...when are you going to grow up?

Actually, as I think about it you?re right this time. how could anyone forget how bad the GOP primaries were and how they rigged the system with superdelegates and had debate moderators feeding questions in advance to their preferred candidates. Oh wait...

What I remember from 2016 is the guy the GOP establishment least wanted to become the nominee, actually won in it because they followed the rules and ran a fair process.

 

[sggatecl]

LOL, have you forgotten what the 2016 GOP primary was like?

Didn't the 2016 DNC in Iowa decide some delegates by coin flip?

 

[Michchamp]

Didn't the 2016 DNC in Iowa decide some delegates by coin flip?

Yeah, to screw Sanders (who apparently won) in favor of Clinton.

Supposedly several coin flips and they all went against him... bizarre.

Republitard posters, please avoid clicking the link. I know Gay Frog told you to ignore "Crazy Cat Lady" and I don't want to trigger you snowflakes so early in the morning.

 

[tomdalton22]

democrats from Iowa...what a bunch of morons