2022 Off-Season

[503]

That's the reason it's going to take 4 years...because Goff is the QB. He is not the answer unless the question is: who is an overpaid QB that is average at best?

So the QB our GM traded for is your excuse for still being in rebuild 4+ years later? Do you see the problem????


It should never take 4+ years to rebuild in the NFL. That?s excuse making and a losers mentality. 2-3 tops. If upper management doesn?t feel they have their QB, then go get him! No more excuses!!

 

[boogerlovejoy]

So the QB our GM traded for is your excuse for still being in rebuild 4+ years later? Do you see the problem????


It should never take 4+ years to rebuild in the NFL. That?s excuse making and a losers mentality. 2-3 tops. If upper management doesn?t feel they have their QB, then go get him! No more excuses!!

So if they won a Super Bowl in year 4 that would be a pathetic job by Sheila, Wood, Holmes and Campbell and they should be fired?

 

[503]

So if they won a Super Bowl in year 4 that would be a pathetic job by Sheila, Wood, Holmes and Campbell and they should be fired?

If ?if? was a 5th, we?d all be drunk. Shouldn?t take 4+ years to rebuild.

 

[LKP]

2 seasons for Belichick to win with Patriots. Failed with browns.
4th for Caroll and Seattle. Only 1
5th for John Harbuagh. Only 1
5 for McVay and Rams..snead there much longer
3 for Taylor and Cincy to lose super bowl..tobin gm much longer too
5th season for Rodgers and Ted Thompson. Only 1
3rd for Tomlin and Steelers. 3rd. But gm there much longer and won sb in 2005 with cowher
Arians 2nd season but licht there longer..and also brady biggest reason
Colts took forever with peyton
4th year for payton saints and only 1
Andy reid tooknforever with chiefs until mahomes
Eagles one and done took forever with roseman

 

[503]

2 seasons for Belichick to win with Patriots. Failed with browns.
4th for Caroll and Seattle. Only 1
5th for John Harbuagh. Only 1
5 for McVay and Rams..snead there much longer
3 for Taylor and Cincy to lose super bowl..tobin gm much longer too
5th season for Rodgers and Ted Thompson. Only 1
3rd for Tomlin and Steelers. 3rd. But gm there much longer and won sb in 2005 with cowher
Arians 2nd season but licht there longer..and also brady biggest reason
Colts took forever with peyton
4th year for payton saints and only 1
Andy reid tooknforever with chiefs until mahomes
Eagles one and done took forever with roseman

Slow down buddy. Your talking championship, I?m talking about 2-3 year rebuild to become a playoff team. I?d love a championship and obviously, that?s the ultimate goal. If this team is a 7 or less win team in year 3, jobs need to be lost. Shit, we fired the one black coach we had when we were constantly over 500 and making playoff appearances.

 

[LKP]

Slow down buddy. Your talking championship, I?m talking about 2-3 year rebuild to become a playoff team. I?d love a championship and obviously, that?s the ultimate goal. If this team is a 7 or less win team in year 3, jobs need to be lost. Shit, we fired the one black coach we had when we were constantly over 500 and making playoff appearances.

Agree playoffs in year 3. But debatable if they would fire campbell. He got a 6 year deal not 4. Trying to build a consistent playoff team not a one and done. Cap a factor too but they have more space this year and next too

 

[503]

Agree playoffs in year 3. But debatable if they would fire campbell. He got a 6 year deal not 4. Trying to build a consistent playoff team not a one and done. Cap a factor too but they have more space this year and next too

We?ll have 4yrs straight years picking in the top 10 going into the upcoming season. If you can?t build/coach success around that, then good luck.

4 straight years with top 10 draft choices. Should be plenty of talent for Dan Campbell. Anything less than 7 wins this coming season is inexcusable. Year 3, should be 9+.

 

[LKP]

We?ll have 4yrs straight years picking in the top 10 going into the upcoming season. If you can?t build/coach success around that, then good luck.

4 straight years with top 10 draft choices. Should be plenty of talent for Dan Campbell. Anything less than 7 wins this coming season is inexcusable. Year 3, should be 9+.

It is 3 top 10 picks going into this season. Ragnow wasn't but is a good player. Quinn also made 2/3 of those picks. Hockensen good but a TE and Okudah hurt first 2 years mainly but has a shot this season.

Tavai (gone), Swift (good but injuries) and Onwuzurike (flashes but alot to prove) are the early 2nd rounders so far

Holmes draft classes will need to save us and got to be smart in FA. Glad we have two extra 1sts to come too. And of course find a QB. And the Lions luck, we get pick 2, no good QBs or QBs that are even separating themselves. So it might take 4 years depending on QB situation and given the poor Quinn classes/early picks

 

[503]

It is 3 top 10 picks going into this season. Ragnow wasn't but is a good player. Quinn also made 2/3 of those picks. Hockensen good but a TE and Okudah hurt first 2 years mainly but has a shot this season.

Tavai (gone), Swift (good but injuries) and Onwuzurike (flashes but alot to prove) are the early 2nd rounders so far

Holmes draft classes will need to save us and got to be smart in FA. Glad we have two extra 1sts to come too. And of course find a QB. And the Lions luck, we get pick 2, no good QBs or QBs that are even separating themselves. So it might take 4 years depending on QB situation and given the poor Quinn classes/early picks

Going into the regular season it will be 4 straight years of top 10 picks. Hock, Okudah, Sewell and this years pick. It?s up to Dan Campbell and his staff to develop the young talent and put together winning game plans.

We can?t blame the QB position. Holmes first big move was to make the trade for Goff. Other good offers were on the table(including another top 10 pick) and he chose the Jared Goff package.

 

[LKP]

Going into the regular season it will be 4 straight years of top 10 picks. Hock, Okudah, Sewell and this years pick. It?s up to Dan Campbell and his staff to develop the young talent and put together winning game plans.

We can?t blame the QB position. Holmes first big move was to make the trade for Goff. Other good offers were on the table(including another top 10 pick) and he chose the Jared Goff package.

True pick 2. But still like I said. Quinn whiffed on some early picks

Holmes needs to figure out QB and it will be crucial for a consistent playoff team. Everyone knew Goff is just a bridge

But it might take 4 years and they will get that at least. Some flashes in 2021 so far and a good "culture" The first Holmes draft class looks good.

 

[503]

True pick 2. But still like I said. Quinn whiffed on some early picks

Holmes needs to figure out QB and it will be crucial for a consistent playoff team. Everyone knew Goff is just a bridge

But it might take 4 years and they will get that at least. Some flashes in 2021 so far and a good "culture" The first Holmes draft class looks good.

Whiffed or not. They were top 10 picks and have talent if you have the coaches to develop. Our Defensive Coordinator was a secondary coach, head coach was a TE coach, sounds like great matches to develop Okudah and Hock who Quinn drafted.

Again, Holmes is the one who traded for Goff. If that?s not the QB he feels he can structure a winning team around then it was a horrible first trade to make.

We have 2 first round picks this year including the #2, and 2 next year. If Goff isn?t your QB, admit your mistake and go get your guy. Murray, Watson, Jimmy G, Willis, Pickett are a few names that come to mind. Do your research and go get the one you like!

 

[LKP]

Whiffed or not. They were top 10 picks and have talent if you have the coaches to develop. Our Defensive Coordinator was a secondary coach, head coach was a TE coach, sounds like great matches to develop Okudah and Hock who Quinn drafted.

Again, Holmes is the one who traded for Goff. If that?s not the QB he feels he can structure a winning team around then it was a horrible first trade to make.

We have 2 first round picks this year including the #2, and 2 next year. If Goff isn?t your QB, admit your mistake and go get your guy. Murray, Watson, Jimmy G, Willis, Pickett are a few names that come to mind. Do your research and go get the one you like!

Murray is not available. Goff>Jimmy G. Willis and Pickett if they fall to 32. Watson no thanks with the suspensions

They can do it in 3 years. Schwartz/Mayhew did it in 3. We'll see if any of those QBs pan out or Goff improves like end of year

 

[503]

Murray is not available. Goff>Jimmy G. Willis and Pickett if they fall to 32. Watson no thanks with the suspensions

They can do it in 3 years. Schwartz/Mayhew did it in 3. We'll see if any of those QBs pan out or Goff improves like end of year

I?m not a professional scout and won?t pretend to be one. The fact of the matter is, there?s QBs available and if you don?t feel Goff is your guy, do your job and go get your guy!

 

[mhughes0021]

I?m not a professional scout and won?t pretend to be one. The fact of the matter is, there?s QBs available and if you don?t feel Goff is your guy, do your job and go get your guy!

Holmes feels Goff is his guy...im guessing we dont pick a QB at all this draft.

 

[503]

Holmes feels Goff is his guy...im guessing we dont pick a QB at all this draft.

I wouldn?t disagree w that statement.

I don?t like hearing Goff being the excuse for an extended rebuild. Holmes put us in the Goff position. He either needs to win w him, or get us out of Goff ASAP(we have the draft capital to do so). I?m tired of excuses.

 

[LKP]

Stud pass rusher at 2, romeo okwara and okudah back, good number 1 wr in fa, good lb and safety at 32 and 34, young dts and cbs develop, oline is good, ben johnson creative oc, another decent vet safety and ilb, run game solid. i could see them battle for playoffs with Goff at least 7th seed. Especially if Rodgers and Adams leave. Vikings and Bears in rebuild too

 

[grandy]

Josh Reynolds re-signed for 2 years, up to $12MM

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1501241625258901504

 

[503]

Denver just went all in and got their QB. If you want him, go get him!

 

[LKP]

Rodgers and Davante back to Green Bay
Cam Robinson tagged so Jags might got Hutch or Thibs
Godwin tagged and Mike Williams extended

Lions back to fighting for WC at best but probably not in 2022

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Denver just went all in and got their QB. If you want him, go get him!

That is a shit ton to give up for a 33 year old QB.

It will be interesting to watch what happens to teams like LA and Denver in the next 3-5 years. Are these trades franchise killing moves or can teams recover from giving up so much draft capital for short term success.