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a ****ing buck 67 and he's hitting 2nd

Yeah Ron, it's just as ridiculous as complaining as much as everyone has about who batted second in 1 freaking game. And for all that bitching, it still ended up being tied for the highest OBP for the game.

With all the problems this team has, who bats second, and with what average means next to nothing.

Yet someone had to make a new thread about it a day after it actually happened.

I know......what you see here as well as any other Tigers forum, message board, comments section at a Detroit media or blogger site, is that most fans are so frustrated.
The mere mention or inclusion of certain players....raburn, kelly, delmon, coke, as a starter, where they bat in the lineup, is enough to set most everyone off.
 
Yes there would. The JL haters would complain that he put a lefty in the 2 hole when he had some right handed hitters on the bench.

but for the love of God, not Raburn. if it wasn't for expanding the lineup,I don't think they'd had made room for him. specially just coming off the DL.
 
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But if he played Dirks yesterday in the 2nd spot, and Dirks ended up going 0-4...I doubt there would be this big of an uproar.

So we should have an uproar if Miggy goes 0-4? Raburn shouldn't be playing regardless if he gets a hit now and again.

Did it cost us the game, no. But I'm certainly not going to give Leyland credit.
 
Pure luck. You play a guy who shouldn't play in a spot he shouldn't be in once in a while good things will happen. Leyland didn't do anything right. He got lucky.

Why have managers at all then? Whats the point...a computer can just run the team and do it by the book everytime.
 
Seriously too much crying about something that had no effect on anything.

Offense sucked, and not because Raburn batted 2nd, and Porcello fell apart, and not because Raburn made an error.

Funny how Leyland always gets off easily with you apologists. It really is..

Who cares if Raburn got on base twice? Who cares if Porcello fell apart like he ususlly does? Who cares if the offense sputtered? Its the fn fact that he puts in a guy who is absolutely fn horrific at baseball in a spot (2hole) where you have a chance for more AB's. It's fn moronic to say the least and words can't desrcibe it.
 
one thing that is clear after reading this thread,

tomdalton loves him some jimmyboy.
 
one thing that is clear after reading this thread,

tomdalton loves him some jimmyboy.

no...I think he is an above average manager.....nothing more. I just get tired of the Leyland bashing around here so I end up defending him.
 
Funny how Leyland always gets off easily with you apologists. It really is..

Who cares if Raburn got on base twice? Who cares if Porcello fell apart like he ususlly does? Who cares if the offense sputtered? Its the fn fact that he puts in a guy who is absolutely fn horrific at baseball in a spot (2hole) where you have a chance for more AB's. It's fn moronic to say the least and words can't desrcibe it.


And it's funny how all the Leyland haters will use anything possible to bitch about, even when they end up wrong. As in the Case of Raburn, on base 2x at the top of the order.

If Raburn went 4-4 with 2 HR's and 6 RBI you would still bitch, just to bitch.

Leyland is the least of this teams problems, but you guys go on telling yourselves how if we had a different manager we would be 10 games up right now. (someone actually said that a while back too.)
 
And it's funny how all the Leyland haters will use anything possible to bitch about, even when they end up wrong. As in the Case of Raburn, on base 2x at the top of the order.

If Raburn went 4-4 with 2 HR's and 6 RBI you would still bitch, just to bitch.

Leyland is the least of this teams problems, but you guys go on telling yourselves how if we had a different manager we would be 10 games up right now. (someone actually said that a while back too.)

Jamie Samuelson wrote in his blog the other day that the Tigers should be 12 games up. WTF....at the time I think they would have to had the best record in MLB. No way with this roster!
 
And it's funny how all the Leyland haters will use anything possible to bitch about, even when they end up wrong. As in the Case of Raburn, on base 2x at the top of the order.

If Raburn went 4-4 with 2 HR's and 6 RBI you would still bitch, just to bitch.

Leyland is the least of this teams problems, but you guys go on telling yourselves how if we had a different manager we would be 10 games up right now. (someone actually said that a while back too.)

Who cares if he gets on base?? HE'S FN GARBAGE. What don't you get? A guy batting under .200 in the 2hole is a comedy show. Raburn was last weeks garbage not to long ago, but Leyland has him starting in a fn pennant race. Brilliant!!

As for Raburn going 4-4 with 2 HR's and 6 RBI's. Dream on, buddy. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. As fans, we have the RIGHT to bitch about the pathetic lineups Leyland does game in and game out. He's getting crucified in the media for it as i speak.

I don't bitch about Leyland because i dislike the guy. I don't know him from Adam, but the game has come and gone for him. He can't justify his actions anymore.
 
Jamie Samuelson wrote in his blog the other day that the Tigers should be 12 games up. WTF....at the time I think they would have to had the best record in MLB. No way with this roster!

They were picked to win the World Series by a few "experts" as well, man. Explain that...lol. This team won't even make the playoffs.
 
Yeah but he's hitting a ****ing buck 71 now! I was very upset when he dropped the ball in LF though.
 
Who cares if he gets on base?? HE'S FN GARBAGE. What don't you get? A guy batting under .200 in the 2hole is a comedy show. Raburn was last weeks garbage not to long ago, but Leyland has him starting in a fn pennant race. Brilliant!!

As for Raburn going 4-4 with 2 HR's and 6 RBI's. Dream on, buddy. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. As fans, we have the RIGHT to bitch about the pathetic lineups Leyland does game in and game out. He's getting crucified in the media for it as i speak.

I don't bitch about Leyland because i dislike the guy. I don't know him from Adam, but the game has come and gone for him. He can't justify his actions anymore.

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Jamie Samuelson wrote in his blog the other day that the Tigers should be 12 games up. WTF....at the time I think they would have to had the best record in MLB. No way with this Manager!


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