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Alabama's tricks

wheels002

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This is an interview with one of Alabama's recruits that was told he will have to wait a year because they are out of scholarship. The part that shocks me is he is going to wait a year to go to Alabama and ib the mean time they are going to get him a job in Georgia near where he lives. Umm WTF. The NCAA really needs to look at what is going on .

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/....-with-ala bama/
 
The SEC is one dirty conference but they continue to cheat and get away with it..

South Carolina cuts scholarships


COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina told the NCAA it agrees that major violations took place in its football program and will eliminate six football scholarships over the next three years as part of several self-imposed penalties.

The school released its response Wednesday, three months after the NCAA said the Gamecocks received $55,000 in improper benefits for staying at a Columbia hotel at a reduced rate. The NCAA also noted the university's improper involvement with a Delaware-based mentoring group whose president and treasurer are boosters and South Carolina graduates.

Low: Gamecocks Under NCAA Gun
Instead of forfeiting or vacating wins, South Carolina offered to pay an $18,500 penalty. But the NCAA will have the final say on what South Carolina's penalties are, writes Chris Low. Blog

"The university does not contest the allegations" by the NCAA, said the second sentence of South Carolina's 111-page response.

South Carolina also said it would pay a fine of $18,500 for four football players who played while ineligible in 2009 due to these violations and reduce its number of official visits for its football and track and field teams.

The university has disassociated itself from three boosters, including Student Athlete Mentoring Foundation president Steve Gordon and Kevin Lahn, and demoted former head of compliance Jennifer Stiles for her office's role in signing off on the hotel arrangements.

The school also offered a three-year period of probation.

"We continue to work in full cooperation with the NCAA on this very serious matter," president Harris Pastides said. "As an institution, we established self-imposed penalties and implemented corrective actions."

The NCAA said last September that 10 South Carolina football players and two members of its women's track team received $47,000 in improper benefits for staying at a Columbia hotel for a reduced rate that was about a quarter of what should've been charged. The NCAA said the school committed a second major violation when athletes or prospects received $8,000 in benefits from Gordon and Lahn of SAMF.

South Carolina did not dispute either allegation, although it called compliance's decision to allow the hotel stays a "good faith error in judgment."

The Whitney Hotel a few miles off campus charged a rate of $14.95 per athlete for two-bedroom suites. The NCAA found the rate should've been more than $57 per night for each athlete. One football player who spent more than year at the hotel, the NCAA said, received an extra benefit worth $19,280.

Stiles and the compliance office had said the hotel rate was comparable to other available off-campus housing. The NCAA called her assessment "flawed" in correspondence from 2010 and said the school should've compared with rates given others who stayed at the Whitney long term.

"Had this good faith error in judgment not occurred, the university believes the violations in allegation one would have been minimized," South Carolina said in its response.

Gordon and Lahn were found to have paid for several unofficial visits by Gamecocks freshman receiver Damiere Byrd.

Byrd was suspended for South Carolina's first four games and made to pay back $2,700.

Lahn also paid for a $3,350 dinner cruise on nearby Lake Murray for several prospects that was also attended by track coach Curtis Frye and 16 members of his program.

Gordon has said he and his outfit did not steer athletes to South Carolina or any schools. Florida defensive end Sharrif Floyd, who was also involved with Gordon's group, was suspended for two games and made to pay back $2,700.

The university acknowledged SAMF made more visits to South Carolina than other schools and those trips helped in recruiting Byrd.

The school said it will reduce football scholarships by one in 2012-13, by three in 2013-14 and by two in 2014-15. The football team will reduce its official visits from 56 to 30 in 2012-2013.

The NCAA will consider South Carolina's self-imposed penalties at a hearing on the violations in February.

The Gamecocks (No. 9 BCS, No. 10 AP) will face Nebraska (No. 20 BCS, No. 21 AP) in the Capital One Bowl on Jan. 2. A victory would give 10-2 Carolina the program's first-ever 11-win season. Head coach Steve Spurrier received a two-year contract extension through 2015 this past Tuesday.

Spurrier will be part of the South Carolina contingent facing the NCAA in two months.
 
Hey MSU and Michigan are on the over-signing board... Check this out... I don't know what to think of this... Maybe everyone does it but the SEC is really good at it... We may need to post the bottom link with its own thread... SEC has the Top five clubs by far... MSU is over by 4 and Michigan is over by 1

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/the-oversigning-cup/
 
The top 5 is all sec. 4 teams being the 4 best teams.

Michigan is 1 over. Maybe it has something to do with Stonum
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
The top 5 is all sec. 4 teams being the 4 best teams.

Michigan is 1 over. Maybe it has something to do with Stonum

It really pisses me off...Fucking SEC gets away with everything and it is a crock of shit..
 
wheels002 said:
This is an interview with one of Alabama's recruits that was told he will have to wait a year because they are out of scholarship. The part that shocks me is he is going to wait a year to go to Alabama and ib the mean time they are going to get him a job in Georgia near where he lives. Umm WTF. The NCAA really needs to look at what is going on .

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/....-with-ala bama/

That article just show what a piece of shit Saban is...
 
Its almost to the point that I wouldn't even care if michigan did something shady. I'm sick of being at a disadvantage from not cheating
 
wait, we signed one more guy? Why the hell are we even on that list?
 
The thing I dont get is in the article is the kid says well I will stay committed to Bama because they are staying committed to me. What? They just told you they cant accept you because they dont have enough scholarships. This kid must be stupid. And how many kids will be in the same boat if a few more kids pick Bama on Feb 1?
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
Its almost to the point that I wouldn't even care if michigan did something shady. I'm sick of being at a disadvantage from not cheating


I am almost with you on this because it is so frustrating how much gets pushed under the rug that the SEC does.. ESPN just sucks the SEC every damn day and I am tired of it too. This kid must be really stupid...
 
Its not even just the Sec. They're conference definitely does the most as a whole. But it seems like most good teams have done it.

Ohio* and Usc.


And all of teams michigan (or big10) has had to play. Ohio every year, then they would either play a SECheat or Usc in a rose bowl.


Even oregon with the talk about recruits from texas.
 
It does make me wonder if Meyer will try and bring some of his SEC tactics to the B10.
 
wheels002 said:
It does make me wonder if Meyer will try and bring some of his SEC tactics to the B10.

I am sure Meyer will continue the dirty program at ohio. Expect SEC crap infecting the Big 10. NCAA needs to investigate this nonsense?
 
[color=#006400 said:
biggunsbob[/color]]
[quote="Maize&Cheese304":0vos3x9s]The top 5 is all sec. 4 teams being the 4 best teams.

Michigan is 1 over. Maybe it has something to do with Stonum

It really pisses me off...Fucking SEC gets away with everything and it is a crock of shit..[/quote:0vos3x9s]

That's why I don't take FBS that seriously anymore.. It's a joke and it's current state is total horseshit..
 
Well the guy who started the BCS, was the SEC commissioner beforehand. So while making all these rules and such he allowed the SEC to over sign recruits. A team like LSU/Alabama can sign 35+ players then afterwards pick the 18-24 that they have scholarships for. Also, lets say Bama signed a 3 star QB last year, and this year a 5 star recruit wants to come to Bama. They can strip that 3 stars scholarship and tell him to fuck off and give the scholarship to the 5 star QB.

Why do you think the SEC has been so dominant?
 
The real scary thing to me is how more and more media and people with similar or more power are saying how college players deserve to be paid to play. Isn't the system corrupt enough as it is? If they start allowing players to get paid, the SEC teams will be bending and breaking rules to pay players even more to ensure they have the top recruits. It isn't a question of "If" they would do that, it is merely a question of "How much?" with a follow up of "For how long?".

That is the thing these people who are pushing for players to get paid fail to grasp. Greed will only get worse if players start getting paid more than they already are with their scholarships and endless tutoring which altogether has to account for well over $100,000 at these schools. If these guys start getting pay on top of that, they will soon eclipse what NFL players earn as their base minimum.

Only benefit to that I guess is more guys willing to stay in college at that point, because going to the NFL will mean taking a cut in pay.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Well the guy who started the BCS, was the SEC commissioner beforehand. So while making all these rules and such he allowed the SEC to over sign recruits. A team like LSU/Alabama can sign 35+ players then afterwards pick the 18-24 that they have scholarships for. Also, lets say Bama signed a 3 star QB last year, and this year a 5 star recruit wants to come to Bama. They can strip that 3 stars scholarship and tell him to fuck off and give the scholarship to the 5 star QB.

Why do you think the SEC has been so dominant?

Well surly the NCAA can see this, something in this situation has to me against their rules. Promising the kid a job, seems like an extra benefit to me.

Also under the new $2000 dollar deal, schools can now offer 4 year scholarships. Seems to me I would only want a school that was going to guarantee me 4 years before I sign. (maybe this is wrong but its how I understood it)
 
That's the thing. No matter how much they paid these kids some will always be looking for more and some schools will give more. I laugh when people say the cheating will stop if we just pay them.
 
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