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Anonynous GM rips Lions

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At 1-3 and last in the NFC North, the Detroit Lions are one of the NFL's biggest early-season disappointments. Now, a rival executive has called them "overrated," a label that isn't sitting well with Detroit's players.

A rival general manager told Pro Football Weekly in a story posted Monday that the Lions' talent level has been oversold and called out defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh and Cliff Avril in particular as players who are overhyped. He also said coach Jim Schwartz and general manager Martin Mayhew are "both overrated."


Inefficient Offense Caging Lions
As an offense, the Lions are simply not as efficient in 2012. They are scoring touchdowns on a lower percentage of their drives and losing the turnover battle a year after ranking among the two best in TO margin last season.

Lions through 1st 4 games,
last 2 seasons
Category 2011 2012
W-L 4-0 1-3
Score margin +59* -14
TO diff +8* -3
TD pct 25.5 19.1
*Top 2 in NFL

-- ESPN Stats & Information


"The one thing that is clear -- they are not as close as people have tried to make it seem," the GM told Pro Football Weekly. "They are a one-dimensional offensive team that if the quarterback (Matthew Stafford) is not on, people are figuring it out. If you take (WR Calvin) Johnson out of the game, who else do they have that can beat you?

"They are not a team that I think is ready. If I am going there to take over the job, I am not thinking that is a quick fix."

The Lions, who ended a 12-year playoff drought in 2011, were expected to be postseason contenders again this season. Johnson, who had 16 touchdown receptions last season and signed a seven-year extension worth up to $132 million this offseason, has just one TD catch so far in the Lions' first four games.

Center Dominic Raiola, in particular, took offense to the GM's comments, telling reporters Tuesday that the executive's remarks were a "coward kind of statement."

"That fires me up. That's taking a shot at the Lions organization. That ain't right. I'm going to say eff 'em. I can't say the word. But I'll say eff 'em," he said, according to Fox Sports Detroit.

"If you don't take that personal, you're in the wrong place. (Schwartz and Mayhew) work hard putting the right talent on the field. They bust their ass doing this," he continued. "It's on us to have their back. The best way to have their back is on the field."

Another anonymous executive said the Lions' problems stem from drafting a lot of "issue guys" such as Nick Fairley, who was arrested twice this past offseason, and the lack of leadership on the team is reflected in their poor start.


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The Lions, coming off their bye, will face the turnover-prone Eagles in Philadelphia this week. Avril, who had to leave the Lions' loss to Minnesota two weekends ago because of a back problem, practiced Tuesday and seems fine now.

Avril, who was described as "not that good" by the anonymous GM, said he's not concerned with what people think of the Lions.

"Who cares?" he said, according to the Detroit Free Press. "I don't really care. We don't really care what anybody thinks of us right now.

"It's all about us going out and performing and trying to prove people wrong as we've been trying to do since this group of guys have come together. Us within the locker room know what we have, it's just all about making the rest of the country and the league know what's going on over here."

Schwartz said he refused to "comment on anonymous things."

"Hey, we're 1-3. That's what we are right now. We need to go win," he said, according to the Detroit News. "We're judged on winning. We're not judged on popularity contests or what somebody says under the cloak of anonymity. We are judged by how many wins we get over 16 games. That's enough for us right now."
 
cant really argue with what the guy said. Avril blows, Suh is underperforming for his status, fairley has more arrests than sacks, and they are a one dimensional offense. We know all of these things and people say them weekly on this board. He could have added we have a one dimensional defense too and a shit STs group.
 
That's depressing as hell to read. We all felt that we were getting close last year, maybe we overachieved though. We are dangerously close to having another round of 1st and 2nd round busts. It's really unreal that we've only gotten a hand full of 1st or 2nd round players to contribute in the last decade. Our record in the 2nd round is actually worse than our record in the 1st round.
 
I agree with everything he said. Since their 6-0 start last year they are 6-10 (including the playoff loss. For me it feels like the same old Lions!
 
Is this a joke or something? Based on 4 games he calls out the whole franchise?
 
Yeah I guarantee you he wouldn't of said this if we pulled off the last two games. Because as bad as we played we were still in both of those games down til the end. Whoever said this is just trying to kick us while were down. Good for him, let the season play out.
 
whoever that anonymous GM is, I can't completely disagree, may have gone overboard calling out the entire franchise but I agree that this years team is overrated at least. D Line ain't done crap, pass D blows dead goats. Linehan is slow to adjust, Gunter is stale and never runs any stunts to free anyone up. Stafford might be skittish with the tight windows this year as compared to last. Brick hands Petigrew can't catch for shit. Special teams is a flat out clown show joke we haven't had a decent kick returner since Mel Gray. I could go on but what's the point.

Caught something about Chief fans cheering when cassel got hurt apparently and one of their lineman called em all out. One of the fans calls into a radio show or something and whines about how they have the right since it's been 30 some odd years since their franchise did anything. I have to shake my head over other teams fans whining about their teams like that. they have no idea what it means, none! 30 years. LOL> ha! poor babies..

Anyway!!!

Everyone prepared for 1-4 this weekend!
 
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whoever that anonymous GM is, I can't completely disagree, may have gone overboard calling out the entire franchise but I agree that this years team is overrated at least. D Line ain't done crap, pass D blows dead goats. Linehan is slow to adjust, Gunter is stale and never runs any stunts to free anyone up. Stafford might be skittish with the tight windows this year as compared to last. Brick hands Petigrew can't catch for shit. Special teams is a flat out clown show joke we haven't had a decent kick returner since Mel Gray. I could go on but what's the point.

Caught something about Chief fans cheering when cassel got hurt apparently and one of their lineman called em all out. One of the fans calls into a radio show or something and whines about how they have the right since it's been 30 some odd years since their franchise did anything. I have to shake my head over other teams fans whining about their teams like that. they have no idea what it means, none! 30 years. LOL> ha! poor babies..

Anyway!!!

Everyone prepared for 1-4 this weekend!

Wait a minute? You mean the Lions have under-preformed at 1-3, nooooooooo. But he's wrong about a whole bunch of other stuff.

Btw, Philly? They suck.
 
Wait a minute? You mean the Lions have under-preformed at 1-3, nooooooooo. But he's wrong about a whole bunch of other stuff.

Btw, Philly? They suck.

I agree about Philly sucks but they haven't really given up a tone of points this year either and we are struggling to score in the red zone and or figure out 2 deep double safety so I don't see it happening unless that extra week off suddenly allowed linehan to come up with something better than underneath no yac's and trying to setup the pass with the run and no O line to pull it off with.. I'll bet Jahvid could have really helped with this problem right now. sucks he's probably never playing again..JMO
 
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