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mhughes0021
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Bounty suspensions for players overturned and they can play on sunday.
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beez
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Roger Goodells face - ___ -
tbone413
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Thats pretty shocking...thought for sure the Appeal would be rejected.
I hate Vilma - he is a huge POS..hope people go for his knees every play this year.
I hate Vilma - he is a huge POS..hope people go for his knees every play this year.
wheels002
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Vilma may not play much this year as it is. His knee is toast.
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Travesty.
tonyballs
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Shows you how big of a joke Goodell really is...lol.
Now he has to "show" the evidence of Bountygate, instead of being a fn jackass and telling people he doesn't have to show shit because he's the commish. Good job, buddy...you clown.
Now he has to "show" the evidence of Bountygate, instead of being a fn jackass and telling people he doesn't have to show shit because he's the commish. Good job, buddy...you clown.
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Slick
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it existed , the got paid to lay guys out...Goodell went to far with the length of the suspensions though....watch last years playoff tape and tell me they didn't head hunt Staff and CJ every chance they got..
hopefully someone cuts Vilmas knees out from under him.
hopefully someone cuts Vilmas knees out from under him.
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From what I can tell of the ruling, this may be very temporary.
Basically the 3-team arbitrators ruled that Goodell may not have had authority to hear the appeals himself.
They have asked him to explain what portions of the suspensions were a result of salary cap violations, and what part were due to a pay to injure program.
If the suspension, or portions of it, were due to salary cap violations, the Systems Arbitrator must hear those appeals, and only fines can be levied for it, not suspensions.
If the suspensions, or portions of it, were due to a pay to injure program, the Commissioner hears those and has the authority to suspend.
Now Goodell needs to explain why he suspended players. Since no fine was imposed, it is clear from a legal standpoints that he expected the suspension to be the complete penalty determinative. It's also clear that there was a salary cap violation. So the arbitrators are saying he cannot use suspension as the complete penalty.
Now he will decide how long the suspensions should be for just the pay to injure portion of the violation, and will hand that down. It could still result in nearly identical suspensions. The rest will be sent over to the Systems Arbitrator for fines.
In the end, this could actually work out worse for the players. Goodell could rule that, in the case of Vilma for example, he will be suspended 15 games, one less than originally imposed. Vilma is likely missing the first two games of this season anyway with an injury, so that would not just cover this season, but the first game of next season if Goodell waits the two weeks to rule.
They could of course appeal, but he does oversee the appeals.. so back to square one.
Where it helps the players it is has them on the roster for week one, and as vested veterans, that means their entire 2012 salary is now guaranteed.
And before I accidentally sound smart, everything I just read was pieced together from other sources. I am in no way a lawyer or law student... but I've hired enough lawyers over the years to understand legalese, hehe.
Basically the 3-team arbitrators ruled that Goodell may not have had authority to hear the appeals himself.
They have asked him to explain what portions of the suspensions were a result of salary cap violations, and what part were due to a pay to injure program.
If the suspension, or portions of it, were due to salary cap violations, the Systems Arbitrator must hear those appeals, and only fines can be levied for it, not suspensions.
If the suspensions, or portions of it, were due to a pay to injure program, the Commissioner hears those and has the authority to suspend.
Now Goodell needs to explain why he suspended players. Since no fine was imposed, it is clear from a legal standpoints that he expected the suspension to be the complete penalty determinative. It's also clear that there was a salary cap violation. So the arbitrators are saying he cannot use suspension as the complete penalty.
Now he will decide how long the suspensions should be for just the pay to injure portion of the violation, and will hand that down. It could still result in nearly identical suspensions. The rest will be sent over to the Systems Arbitrator for fines.
In the end, this could actually work out worse for the players. Goodell could rule that, in the case of Vilma for example, he will be suspended 15 games, one less than originally imposed. Vilma is likely missing the first two games of this season anyway with an injury, so that would not just cover this season, but the first game of next season if Goodell waits the two weeks to rule.
They could of course appeal, but he does oversee the appeals.. so back to square one.
Where it helps the players it is has them on the roster for week one, and as vested veterans, that means their entire 2012 salary is now guaranteed.
And before I accidentally sound smart, everything I just read was pieced together from other sources. I am in no way a lawyer or law student... but I've hired enough lawyers over the years to understand legalese, hehe.
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