Bad Presidents

[tycobb420]

http://www.examiner.com/article/bad-presidents

 

[Michchamp]

laughable.

should be:

- U. S. Grant (presided over some notorious corruption in his administration)
- tie between the do-nothing figureheads from late in the 19th century ( Buchanan, Hayes, Garfield)
- Warren G. Harding - the consensus worst president of all time.
- Herbert Hoover
- George W. Bush.

 

[biggunsbob]

I guess he hates Obama..

 

[Mitchrapp]

I guess he hates Obama..

How about those list of worst POTUS with Bush on it? I suppose those are valid arguments. Lol.

 

[tycobb420]

laughable.

should be:

- U. S. Grant (presided over some notorious corruption in his administration)
- tie between the do-nothing figureheads from late in the 19th century ( Buchanan, Hayes, Garfield)
- Warren G. Harding - the consensus worst president of all time.
- Herbert Hoover
- George W. Bush.

Buchanan is the consensus worst of all time. Grant has been getting some love from historians lately and his image has improved dramatically.

 

[Thumb]

Terrible article.

It's basically a blow-job for GW Bush. Unemployment/economy/middle east unstable, all things that happened under Bush, but this Don Keko hangs it on Obama, because he's a right-wing nincompoop.

That guy is so near-sighted he couldn't find his asshole with both hands and a GPS.

 

[byco42]

laughable.

should be:

- U. S. Grant (presided over some notorious corruption in his administration)
- tie between the do-nothing figureheads from late in the 19th century ( Buchanan, Hayes, Garfield)
- Warren G. Harding - the consensus worst president of all time.
- Herbert Hoover
- George W. Bush.

I give Grant a pass because he was not a politician and because he was in the shit for four years. I don't care that the jobs are not alike.

Garfield was only in office for six months before Charles Guiteau plugged him in a Baltimore train station, so I say you can't judge him.

Hoover was Roosevelt light, so I wonder what that says about Roosevelt.

Trivia: This son of a president was present at the deaths of three presidents. Who was the son and who were the presidents?

 

[Thumb]

Just a shot in the dark, the son of Chester A. Arthur.

 

[easye688]

I give Grant a pass because he was not a politician and because he was in the shit for four years. I don't care that the jobs are not alike.

Garfield was only in office for six months before Charles Guiteau plugged him in a Baltimore train station, so I say you can't judge him.

Hoover was Roosevelt light, so I wonder what that says about Roosevelt.

Trivia: This son of a president was present at the deaths of three presidents. Who was the son and who were the presidents?

Robert Todd Lincoln-His own father, James Garfield and William McKinley

 

[Thumb]

Robert Todd Lincoln-His own father, James Garfield and William McKinley

Crap, I read it wrong. I thought it was attended funerals, not present at the actual deaths.

 

[Michchamp]

I give Grant a pass because he was not a politician and because he was in the shit for four years. I don't care that the jobs are not alike.

Garfield was only in office for six months before Charles Guiteau plugged him in a Baltimore train station, so I say you can't judge him.

Hoover was Roosevelt light, so I wonder what that says about Roosevelt.

Trivia: This son of a president was present at the deaths of three presidents. Who was the son and who were the presidents?

I agree on Grant, but I think you still have to judge him on the tenure in office. including his other life achievements and the type of guy he was, he doesn't really belong on any list along side a party boy yahoo like George W., or corrupt bagmen like Warren Harding, but since we're talking presidents...

maybe substitute Grover Cleveland for Garfield. That's who I was thinking of anyway.

 

[byco42]

I agree on Grant, but I think you still have to judge him on the tenure in office. including his other life achievements and the type of guy he was, he doesn't really belong on any list along side a party boy yahoo like George W., or corrupt bagmen like Warren Harding, but since we're talking presidents...

maybe substitute Grover Cleveland for Garfield. That's who I was thinking of anyway.

Which non-consecutive term of Cleveland's?

 

[Michchamp]

Which non-consecutive term of Cleveland's?

both. It seems like most of the late 19th century guys were all just bag men for the business trusts.

Teddy Roosevelt broke the mold a bit.

maybe it's not as fair to pin the Great Depression on Hoover as much as the do-nothing guys from the decade prior (Harding, and Coolidge). a massive crash predicated by easy credit and a lack of regulation was going to probably hit at the end of the 20's no matter who was in charge... kinda like Barack Obama taking over in Jan. 2009.

seems like both Hoover and Obama have failed to do much to actually reduce unemployment, rein in inequality, and put in place the sort of reforms necessary to prevent the same abuses from happening on Wall Street. I guess the difference is that Hoover was from the GOP, and the people could turn to FDR for SOME sort of reform... Barack is already as far left as we can realistically hope to get elected in this day and age, and that's not very far at all. his cabinet is packed with people who were ideologically the same as those in Bush's cabinet, if not exactly the same people (e.g. Geithner). And any that actually showed some interest in reform were marginalized, then pushed out (Austin Goolsbee, Elizabeth Warren).

 

[tinselwolverine]

Robert Todd Lincoln-His own father, James Garfield and William McKinley

Wow, was that guy ever a bad luck penny, huh?

 

[redandguilty]

I think Cleveland was the one that said whenever he had a challenging job for someone, he turned to the University of Michigan to find someone that could do it. That's worth something, isn't it?

 

[redandguilty]

Found it. The Cleveland quote is: "When I was in office and needed help I usually turned to the University of Michigan."

That follows a paragraph naming eight Michigan alum-Cleveland hires/appointments and noting that 47 Michigan alumni served in the 4 Congresses covered by his administration, several in more than one session.

 

[Michchamp]

Found it. The Cleveland quote is: "When I was in office and needed help I usually turned to the University of Michigan."

That follows a paragraph naming eight Michigan alum-Cleveland hires/appointments and noting that 47 Michigan alumni served in the 4 Congresses covered by his administration, several in more than one session.

okay, Cleveland is out of the dog house!

 

[byco42]

It's a little apocryphal what I wrote about Robert Lincoln. This is more accurate: "Robert Lincoln was coincidentally either present or nearby when three presidential assassinations occurred." Source: Wikipedia.

 

[redandguilty]

okay, Cleveland is out of the dog house!

HIST 265: History of the University of Michigan strikes again!

 

[tinselwolverine]

It's a little apocryphal what I wrote about Robert Lincoln. This is more accurate: "Robert Lincoln was coincidentally either present or nearby when three presidential assassinations occurred." Source: Wikipedia.

That's quite a period of years...without looking it up, Abe Lincoln was 1865; Garfield was 1881 and McKinley was 1901 - anyway, it's right thereabouts for all three, I'm pretty sure...