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[byco42]

come to think of it, you have a "No Solicitors" sign on your door, right?

Ummm. No. Never have. I talk to everyone who comes to my door. Even solicitors. But the ones from Sam Bernstein I might turn away should they ever range this far south.

 

[byco42]

I consider most of them lost as well, just not in the same sense.

Likely because you misunderstand Catholicism. Which is understandable, since many Catholics do as well.

 

[Sbee]

I've often thought of entering the priesthood

oh, you're roman catholic? i'm sorry, i'm afraid you can't come

 

[redandguilty]

There's a part of me that likes one side thinking I'm a religious nut while all the religious nuts think I'm a heretic. I'm not proud of that part, but it's there.

 

[Michchamp]

There's a part of me that likes one side thinking I'm a religious nut while all the religious nuts think I'm a heretic. I'm not proud of that part, but it's there.

 

[tinselwolverine]

There's a part of me that likes one side thinking I'm a religious nut while all the religious nuts think I'm a heretic. I'm not proud of that part, but it's there.

You're not proud of that?

You should pin a medal on yourself!

 

[redandguilty]

You're not proud of that?

You should pin a medal on yourself!

Like a Sheriff's Badge? I could go for a Sheriff's Badge.

Dang it. You're appealing to that vanity I'm not proud of either.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Like a Sheriff's Badge? I could go for a Sheriff's Badge.

Dang it. You're appealing to that vanity I'm not proud of either.

 

[Thumb]

Likely because you misunderstand Catholicism. Which is understandable, since many Catholics do as well.

It's not that I misunderstand, though I freely admit that even when I was raised Catholic, and going through the confirmation process and stuff, I never fully understood it.

What I meant was not having the ability to really make your own choices. and I'm speaking about the "Devout" Catholics, not just anyone who goes to mass in a church that starts with St. something.

No options on conception/birth control. No divorce. No option to support a gay/lesbian friends choices.

Those are my biggest turn-offs for the Catholic faith, and sometimes I actually feel sorry for people who never really get to have their own opinions on some of these things, lest they be ex-communicated.

Note: Please don't read this as me attacking your faith or religious choices, this is simply me explaining why I feel as I do about Catholicism.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Those are my biggest turn-offs for the Catholic faith, and sometimes I actually feel sorry for people who never really get to have their own opinions on some of these things, lest they be ex-communicated.

Does anybody actually get excommunicated anymore?

 

[Michchamp]

Does anybody actually get excommunicated anymore?

that one activist american nun did recently.

at one point, being excommunicated was a dream of mine. i still think it would be pretty cool.

 

[tinselwolverine]

that one activist american nun did recently.

at one point, being excommunicated was a dream of mine. i still think it would be pretty cool.

What about regular run of the mill Joes though?

When I looked up contemporary excommunication, I came across a number of stories of people trying to get themselves excommunicated.

Pretty much the priests and the bishops kept trying to convince them to return to the practice of Catholicism.

 

[tinselwolverine]

What about regular run of the mill Joes though?

When I looked up contemporary excommunication, I came across a number of stories of people trying to get themselves excommunicated.

Pretty much the priests and the bishops kept trying to convince them to return to the practice of Catholicism.

Apparently the church isn't as unalterable as the NCAA:

McBride reportedly has been allowed back into the church, having made her confession, which absolves her of the sin. In the meantime, the church withdrew its Catholic sponsorship of the hospital. Perhaps now women might have a chance to terminate a pregnancy before they put their own lives at risk.

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/nun-exc...ving-abortion-given-honors.html#ixzz2dP0LnfNK

 

[byco42]

Does anybody actually get excommunicated anymore?

Yes.

 

[KAWDUP]

It's not that I misunderstand, though I freely admit that even when I was raised Catholic, and going through the confirmation process and stuff, I never fully understood it.

What I meant was not having the ability to really make your own choices. and I'm speaking about the "Devout" Catholics, not just anyone who goes to mass in a church that starts with St. something.

No options on conception/birth control. No divorce. No option to support a gay/lesbian friends choices.

Those are my biggest turn-offs for the Catholic faith, and sometimes I actually feel sorry for people who never really get to have their own opinions on some of these things, lest they be ex-communicated.

Note: Please don't read this as me attacking your faith or religious choices, this is simply me explaining why I feel as I do about Catholicism.

I did not read this as attacking the Catholic faith, but I do have something to offer. Opinions on those things may certainly disagree with the teachings of the church, and you can still remain a good Catholic. The Apostles Creed kind of gives you a summary of the things that are most important to believe to be considered Catholic.

http://www.catholicplanet.com/catholic/creed.htm

The rest of it is pretty much subject to change based on who the pope is, his encyclicals, and other ecumenical conferences, but your opinions on those other things are your own. No one should be judging you - not that they won't, of course, but they shouldn't be.

 

[Thumb]

I quoted the word devout for a reason.

I realize many Catholics don't adhere 100% to church policy or doctrine, I was referring to those who do, and that's who I was talking about.

 

[KAWDUP]

I quoted the word devout for a reason.

I realize many Catholics don't adhere 100% to church policy or doctrine, I was referring to those who do, and that's who I was talking about.

I think the level of education in Catholics, the type of which you are posting about, may have something to say about why one might accept all church doctrine as divinely inspired, and therefore follow it without question, but I think you might have the wrong definition of devout.

Nowhere in the definition does it say blind adherence to church law. I consider myself quite devout, and I still don't agree with the churches take on several things. E.g. the role of women in the church, and a couple of other things like possibly capital punishment and birth control. I have had a number of clergy, that I know personally, refer to me as a devout Catholic.

The disagreements on the latter issues I mention are really much more American based issues that are way more prevalent here in the US. In any case, I think the number of people who adhere to 100% of church doctrine, is much smaller than you might imagine, but that is, of course, only my opinion - I haven't done any extensive polling on the subject.

 

[redandguilty]

I quoted the word devout for a reason.

I realize many Catholics don't adhere 100% to church policy or doctrine, I was referring to those who do, and that's who I was talking about.

So you're talking about nobody. OK.

 

[KAWDUP]

So you're talking about nobody. OK.

As usual Red, you basically said succinctly in one line what took me several paragraphs. Only thing I would say is that your statement has no shades of gray. I was thinking there may be some Catholics in third world countries that follow 100% of church law, but still your statement is better.

I should check with you before I post so you can transform my post into 1 or 2 lines. I'm sure everyone else here would be thankful. :*)

 

[Thumb]

So you're talking about nobody. OK.

Doesn't Opus Dei have over a million members?

Hardly nobody.