Bi-partisan budget deal.

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Jesus would smite you down for using His name in vain. As far as everything else, man's free will would rule.

. . . or didn't they teach you that in Sunday school?

What the hell did they teach YOU in Sunday School?

Jesus was a hippie, all about the peace and love, he never smote anyone. He even wanted the guys who crucified him forgiven, so I doubt he would strike someone down for using his name in vain.

Also, Jesus was a liberal.

 

[Michchamp]

Unless you are looking for a battle of words of what this even means, and why I would care, you might re-think your statement.

I guess I could start by picking any old stupid looking crowd pic of socialists and communists and attach your name to it to be what . . . funny?

. . . or you could just stop being a dick - up to you.

 

[KAWDUP]

I can only assume that is you. It sure doesn't look like that last picture of you on the toilet next to your trailer.

Plastic surgery?

 

[KAWDUP]

What the hell did they teach YOU in Sunday School?

Jesus was a hippie, all about the peace and love, he never smote anyone. He even wanted the guys who crucified him forgiven, so I doubt he would strike someone down for using his name in vain.

Also, Jesus was a liberal.

I didn't need Sunday school. 18 years Catholic education in Catholic schools.

You really want to challenge my use of the word "smite"? Look it up again - I would be happy to post the definition for you. Just let me know.

He never smote the Pharisees, the money lenders in front of His Father's temple, or anyone else? Really?!?

As far as smiting someone for taking His name in vain - it certainly was a reference to the Old Testament - like maybe the Ten Commandments. Yet the New testament also has this:

If you love me, keep my commandments. (John 14:15)

. . . and of course everyone knows this from the New Testament:
The two great commandments that contain the whole law of God are:
1.Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;
2.Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

SO, . . . after reading #1, if someone were taking His name in vain, do you think that person might fit into the same grouping of folks as the "smitable Pharisees or false prophets"?

Did you really want to talk religion - a discussion in which you would have no hope of competing? I'm game.

The rest of what you say about forgiving and being liberal is also true, but that would have nothing to do with anything I posted.

 

[KAWDUP]

I don't think Jesus smote people; that was the god of the old testament. he got a lot nicer and more merciful in the new testament, sort of, until you get to that really trippy book of revelation part.

He did actually. Do you need the citations?

 

[Gulo Blue]

You really want to challenge my use of the word "smite"? Look it up again - I would be happy to post the definition for you. Just let me know.

He never smote the Pharisees, the money lenders in front of His Father's temple, or anyone else? Really?!?

Which are you saying? Am I wrong in thinking that smite means "to strike" or am I wrong in thinking Jesus never struck anyone?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Which are you saying? Am I wrong in thinking that smite means "to strike" or am I wrong in thinking Jesus never struck anyone?

I would say wrong.

 

[Michchamp]

huh.

I always thought smite meant to kill. it's more nuanced than that though.

smite [smaɪt]vb smites, smiting, smote ; smitten, smit (mainly tr) Now archaic in most senses1. to strike with a heavy blow or blows
2. to damage with or as if with blows
3. to afflict or affect severely smitten with flu
4. to afflict in order to punish
5. (intr; foll by on) to strike forcibly or abruptly the sun smote down on him[Old English smītan; related to Old High German smīzan to smear, Gothic bismeitan, Old Swedish smēta to daub]
​

But it's a Germanic word... who knows what it was actually written as in the first bible?

The answer? Byco probably does.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm pretty sure Jesus surely must have wacked one or two of the bastards in his Temple tirade...

 

[KAWDUP]

huh.

I always thought smite meant to kill. it's more nuanced than that though.

smite [smaɪt]vb smites, smiting, smote ; smitten, smit (mainly tr) Now archaic in most senses1. to strike with a heavy blow or blows
2. to damage with or as if with blows
3. to afflict or affect severely smitten with flu
4. to afflict in order to punish
5. (intr; foll by on) to strike forcibly or abruptly the sun smote down on him[Old English smītan; related to Old High German smīzan to smear, Gothic bismeitan, Old Swedish smēta to daub]
​

But it's a Germanic word... who knows what it was actually written as in the first bible?

The answer? Byco probably does.

LOL - I smite in you in every discussion. Need I go on? :*)

 

[Gulo Blue]

I would say wrong.

Maybe, he smote a table and some of the things on the table. That's all I'll give you.

 

[KAWDUP]

Which are you saying? Am I wrong in thinking that smite means "to strike" or am I wrong in thinking Jesus never struck anyone?

Well, I can't say I have a priori knowledge that Jesus ever struck anyone. Most would believe he did not.

"Smite" has several meanings - "to strike down" is only one of them.

This is another nuanced one - to affect mentally or morally with a sudden pang: His conscience smote him.

BTW I think "smiting" the table could also have affected the money changers morally with a sudden pang. In the tongue-in-cheek way I posted in response to champ, I stand by my post.

Can't believe we are actually discussing the semantics of being smitten, but who doesn't love a good semantics argument that has little to do with anything? :*)

 

[Gulo Blue]

Well, I can't say I have a priori knowledge that Jesus ever struck anyone. Most would believe he did not.

"Smite" has several meanings - "to strike down" is only one of them.

That may be what you meant, but what does it add to a conversation if you say something everyone takes to mean another thing because of a less popular definition?

It's not the only argument to run with that idea though. Three-in-one personification gets you there too.

Either way. You can say it, but nobody's gonna like it or adopt that line of thinking after hearing the reasoning.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I doubt Time's person of the year would word it that way.

 

[KAWDUP]

That may be what you meant, but what does it add to a conversation if you say something everyone takes to mean another thing because of a less popular definition?

It's not the only argument to run with that idea though. Three-in-one personification gets you there too.

Either way. You can say it, but nobody's gonna like it or adopt that line of thinking after hearing the reasoning.

Ah, but there is the rub. I could have just said Jesus is God, but then we'd be discussing that instead.

What does it add to the conversation? Look again what I posted, when I used the term - not sure it was meant to add much other than to answer the stupidity it was in response to. Do you think I really care if Jesus would smite champ for using His name in vain?

Champ (I think) was trying to say, it wouldn't be very Christian-like (Jesus-like if you prefer) to come up with a deal that affects the group of people in the manner that the agreement does. Sounded like a deserved response to me. Not to you?

Can't please everyone all the time in budget deals or posting I guess. :*)

 

[Sbee]

Unless you are looking for a battle of words of what this even means, and why I would care, you might re-think your statement.

I guess I could start by picking any old stupid looking crowd pic of socialists and communists and attach your name to it to be what . . . funny?

. . . or you could just stop being a dick - up to you.

I hate this shit, a false equivalency like there are the same amount of radicals in the democratic party. there isn't a "occupy" candidate challenging incumbent democrats and hijacking the party's agenda.

if there 100 right wing whackos and 2 radical liberals, you say, hey, we both have extremist, right?

 

[Michchamp]

I'm pretty sure Jesus surely must have wacked one or two of the bastards in his Temple tirade...

funny how time changes a man.

if he were alive today, he would be on the side of the money lenders, decrying Big Government intrusion on their ability to do whatever they want.

and he would watch Fox News, and post on the internet about how Obama still hasn't released his "long form" birth certificate," santa claus is white, and agree that there is a war on christmas (but shopping on christmas is okay, and in fact, what every American should do.)

 

[Gulo Blue]

Ah, but there is the rub. I could have just said Jesus is God, but then we'd be discussing that instead.

What does it add to the conversation? Look again what I posted, when I used the term - not sure it was meant to add much other than to answer the stupidity it was in response to. Do you think I really care if Jesus would smite champ for using His name in vain?

Champ (I think) was trying to say, it wouldn't be very Christian-like (Jesus-like if you prefer) to come up with a deal that affects the group of people in the manner that the agreement does. Sounded like a deserved response to me. Not to you?

Can't please everyone all the time in budget deals or posting I guess. :*)

If asking WWJD? gets you smote, there was a little bracelet trend a few years back just begging for smiting.

I think MC's question is a good one. It pokes at those that profess their Christianity while taking the position of the temple moneychangers whose tables might have been smote depending on your definition. Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's didn't give those guys a free pass to conduct whatever business they liked or grant the tax collectors a noble reputation.

 

[Michchamp]

If asking WWJD? gets you smote, there was a little bracelet trend a few years back just begging for smiting.

I think MC's question is a good one. I pokes at those that profess their Christianity while taking the position of the temple moneychangers whose tables might have been smote depending on your definition. Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar's didn't give those guys a free pass to conduct whatever business they liked or grant the tax collectors a noble reputation.

You have spoken wisely.

Some may find it ironic that I am a better christian than the christians who post here.

Go in peace.

 

[Sbee]

You have spoken wisely.

Some may find it ironic that I am a better christian than the christians who post here.

Go in peace.

I know there are over two thousand references in the bible to something, it's either helping the poor or every man fending for himself, i can't remember what it is? it's one of the two I know it.

can someone help me?