Big primary upset in NYC

[Michchamp]

longtime Democratic rep Joe Crowley (he had been in this seat since '98), considered to be a possible replacement for Pelosi, goes down to socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

he had outraised her $3.3 MM to $0.3MM.

this is going to freak the DNC out.

 

[Michchamp]

Trump is happy about this... his followers are probably confused now.

"Wait... but socialism bad?"

 

[tigermud]

yes, it's bad, Ocasio-Cortez ran on a platform of abolishing ICE, giving free everything to everyone and opening up our nation’s prisons.. left is going way too far left

thank goodness NY and CA doesn't solely get decided our general elections every 4 years.

 

[tinselwolverine]

longtime Democratic rep Joe Crowley (he had been in this seat since '98), considered to be a possible replacement for Pelosi, goes down to socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

he had outraised her $3.3 MM to $0.3MM.

this is going to freak the DNC out.

Reminded me of Eric Canter a few years ago.

Media talking heads are saying the same thing.

Most importantly she?s pretty hot.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Saw this chart in an Ocasio-Cortez article. Pretty big jump there.

 

[Michchamp]

yes, it's bad, Ocasio-Cortez ran on a platform of abolishing ICE, giving free everything to everyone and opening up our nation’s prisons.. left is going way too far left

thank goodness NY and CA doesn't solely get decided our general elections every 4 years.

You realize ICE didn't exist for the first 225 years of our nation's history, and we got along just fine policing immigration with INS and federal marshalls, right?

You also realize that we're not being "invaded" by immigrants now, and Trump just made that shit up, right?

And you yourself admitted that ending the drug war would be the most effective way to address these issues, not by more brutal policing.

The government can print money; the idea it needs to have a balanced budget is made up shit, and hypocritically only trotted out when discussions of government spending that doesn't benefit the rich or the military start. you've realized that by now, right?

No one ever asks "Who's going to pay for this?" when we want to bomb someone or give corporate America or the 1% a tax cut. you've also noticed that by now, right?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Out of nowhere. Here she is tending bar 7.5 month ago.

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1011791408162799618/photo/1


At least her degree is in economics. Interesting for a "everything should be free for everybody" candidate.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Out of nowhere. Here she is tending bar 7.5 month ago.

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1011791408162799618/photo/1


At least her degree is in economics. Interesting for a "everything should be free for everybody" candidate.

It will be paid for by the million-ayuhs and billion-ayuhs.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Media

Most importantly she?s pretty hot.

Her voice is a little annoying, unfortunately.

 

[Gulo Blue]

She was as shocked as anyone


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...r.cnn/video/playlists/2018-midterm-elections/

 

[tigermud]

You realize ICE didn't exist for the first 225 years of our nation's history, and we got along just fine policing immigration with INS and federal marshalls, right?

You also realize that we're not being "invaded" by immigrants now, and Trump just made that shit up, right?

And you yourself admitted that ending the drug war would be the most effective way to address these issues, not by more brutal policing.

The government can print money; the idea it needs to have a balanced budget is made up shit, and hypocritically only trotted out when discussions of government spending that doesn't benefit the rich or the military start. you've realized that by now, right?

No one ever asks "Who's going to pay for this?" when we want to bomb someone or give corporate America or the 1% a tax cut. you've also noticed that by now, right?

I disagree, to some extent we are being invaded.

Her winning is good though in the sense that if it makes the dems want to continue moving further and further to the far left it will help trump win again in 2020 if he runs again. I'm hearing he might not, I don't know if Pence would win if he doesn't, pence isn't anti-globalist enough trump supporters could sit that out. Rumored Pence/Haley ticket, IMO that would lose.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Reminded me of Eric Canter a few years ago.

Media talking heads are saying the same thing.

Not entirely unlike with Eric Canter, this could be as much a referendum of Cromwell's constituents' perception of his attitude toward them:

New York Times Editorial

EDIT: As always, click on the blue skip to the NY Times article button to get past the Wayfair ad.

 

[Gulo Blue]

EDIT: As always, click on the blue skip to the NY Times article button to get past the Wayfair ad.

Or get an ad blocker. I use uBlock Origin on Chrome.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Or get an ad blocker. I use uBlock Origin on Chrome.

A person could do that, I guess.

 

[Michchamp]

I disagree, to some extent we are being invaded.

Her winning is good though in the sense that if it makes the dems want to continue moving further and further to the far left it will help trump win again in 2020 if he runs again. I'm hearing he might not, I don't know if Pence would win if he doesn't, pence isn't anti-globalist enough trump supporters could sit that out. Rumored Pence/Haley ticket, IMO that would lose.

"to some extent"... well, to a much greater extent we are not.

Also: Bernie would have won.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I disagree, to some extent we are being invaded.

Her winning is good though in the sense that if it makes the dems want to continue moving further and further to the far left it will help trump win again in 2020 if he runs again.

It may not be all that ideological. There's not that much space between Crowley and her policy wise. The primary difference is that she comes out and calls herself a socialist.

Click on the link I posted to the New York Times Editorial in post #12.

 

[Michchamp]

another big distinction: she did not take any corporate cash. he takes a lot of it.

That same big distinction existed between Bernie and Hillary.

That's kind of a "when the rubber hits the road" distinction in my book. He might've been nominally more to the left of the establishment to reflect his constituency, but he was on the take, and so for all practical purposes might as well be Mitt Romney.

 

[tinselwolverine]

another big distinction: she did not take any corporate cash. he takes a lot of it.

That same big distinction existed between Bernie and Hillary.

That's kind of a "when the rubber hits the road" distinction in my book. He might've been nominally more to the left of the establishment to reflect his constituency, but he was on the take, and so for all practical purposes might as well be Mitt Romney.

Okay, that's a fair observation.

EDIT: But...did that suddenly make a difference to the same constituency that sent him to Congress for roughly ten consecutive elections?

Maybe it did; I don't know.

I don't know how much exit polling there's going to have been done in this primary.

 

[tigermud]

"to some extent"... well, to a much greater extent we are not.

Also: Bernie would have won.

maybe but we'll never know cuz crooked Hillary stoled it out from under him.

 

[Michchamp]

they're saying in Colorado, Maggie Sirota (wife of journalist David Sirota) also beat an establishment Dem.

in a hilarious twist, Planned Parenthood supported her opponent and tried to label her "pro life" (she's not) simply because she supported Planned Parenthood's workers' union drive, which PP had even reached out to Trump's NLRB (!!!!) to quash.

here's a write up... in breitbart of all places. link.

strange bedfellows...