Big Ten title game - rematch in year 1?

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

With Wisconsin and Nebraska playing this weekend it got me thinking that theoretically we could be seeing these two teams play again come the big ten title game; which would also be the first time any big ten team played another twice in the same year. Pretty interesting that something like this could easily happen - and is theoretically predicted to happen by many - in year 1.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

From a strictly mathematical standpoint, there is a 50/50 chance of a rematch since each team plays 3 cross-over games. The fact that the big boys play each other (Wisky-Neb, UOS-Mich, etc) would increase the chance.

Where's Red????

 

[Michchamp]

I think Michigan-ohio is a more likely repeat, although the way things go this weekend will tell us a lot of what we need to know.

If we struggle against minnesota, I will have flashbacks to the RichRod years... but I really, REALLY don't expect that to happen.

curious to see how Miller players against MSU. If Ohio rolls with him at QB, I think they will be in for a much better season than many predicted. If he struggles (and I hope he does), I expect they will struggle all season.

Wisconsin - Nebraska - neither team has really played anyone yet. very curious to see how they do in this one. Have no idea how the score plays out.

 

[redandguilty]

From a strictly mathematical standpoint, there is a 50/50 chance of a rematch since each team plays 3 cross-over games. The fact that the big boys play each other (Wisky-Neb, UOS-Mich, etc) would increase the chance.

Where's Red????

Mostly I think you nailed it. Do crossover games impact rankings or is it a tiebreaker? That would make a difference.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

From a strictly mathematical standpoint, there is a 50/50 chance of a rematch since each team plays 3 cross-over games. The fact that the big boys play each other (Wisky-Neb, UOS-Mich, etc) would increase the chance.

Where's Red????

Mostly I think you nailed it. Do crossover games impact rankings or is it a tiebreaker? That would make a difference.

But isn't there some super-genius mathematical equation that you can work up that includes the relative strength of the teams who do play each other as opposed to the relative weakness of the teams which do not?

 

[redandguilty]

It's based on overall conf standing, so the fact that the cross division big boys play each other ensures that one of them will get a loss. If Michigan and Nebraska both win or both lose vs UOS and Wisky, the odds of a rematch go up, if the conferences spit those games, the odds of a rematch go down.

BUT, the protected matchup is actually Penn St-Neb. Wisky is matched with Minnesota. Over the year, if Wisky stay good, we'll see some BS schedules on account of that. Especially since Wisky schedules all cupcakes OOC.

 

[redandguilty]

link to Wisky playing nobody.

http://bravesandbirds.blogspot.com/2011/09/wisconsin-tapeworms-and-other-random.html

 

[redandguilty]

Mostly I think you nailed it. Do crossover games impact rankings or is it a tiebreaker? That would make a difference.

But isn't there some super-genius mathematical equation that you can work up that includes the relative strength of the teams who do play each other as opposed to the relative weakness of the teams which do not?

Maybe, but right now, the only mathy approach I want to think about is the Colley Matrix, which has Michigan at #1.

http://www.colleyrankings.com/

 

[zyxt9]

I heard ESPN has brought together a bunch of their experts to create a new and improved formula for determining how good a team really is. Current ratings only take into consideration things like points, yardage, and other already known stats, but this new ESPN ranking will take into account the timing of when these stats were accumulated. Did they roll up points when everyone was healthy, or did they show real fortitude by scoring while injured. Did they have a bowel movement before, during, or after the game? These and many more telling signs are taken into account to provide a far more accurate way of comparing the teams.

 

[zyxt9]

For the record, I think Wisky is going to give Nebraska a very rude welcome to the B1G 10,11,12. Wisky wins by 20+.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

But isn't there some super-genius mathematical equation that you can work up that includes the relative strength of the teams who do play each other as opposed to the relative weakness of the teams which do not?

Maybe, but right now, the only mathy approach I want to think about is the Colley Matrix, which has Michigan at #1.

http://www.colleyrankings.com/

It shows LSU with 0 Top 25 wins?

 

[redandguilty]

Maybe, but right now, the only mathy approach I want to think about is the Colley Matrix, which has Michigan at #1.

http://www.colleyrankings.com/

It shows LSU with 0 Top 25 wins?

Yeah...'cause its top 25 is all messed up by most people's estimation. Remember, Michigan is in the #1 spot.