Bobby Veach

[tycobb420]

Did a timeline...

Born: June 29, 1888

Debut: September 6, 1912 (Detroit Tigers)

1913: Became starting left fielder for Tigers

1915: Veach, Cobb, and Crawford made up the greatest outfield of all time

1915-22: Had more RBI and extra base hits than any other player

1916: Scored run that ended Babe Ruth?s 25 inning scoreless streak.

1921: Began feud with Ty Cobb

1924: Sold to Red Sox

1925: Traded to Yankees

1925: Released by Yankees, signed with Senators

1925: Washington won the pennant (lost World Series)

1926-29: Played with Toledo Mudhens.

1943: Had operation

1945: Died after a long illness

Accomplishments:

.310 hitter

64 HR

1166 RBI

.370 OBP

.442 Slugging

.812 OPS

Led league in games played: 2x

110 runs (1921)

200+ hits: 2x

Led league 191 hits (1919)

30+ doubles: 8x

40+ doubles: 3x

Led league in doubles: 2x

10+ triples: 10x

Led league 17 triples (1919)

100+ RBI: 6x

Led league in RBI: 3x

20+ steals: 5x

Hit .300: 8x

.355 (1919)

.500 slugging: 2x

324 total bases (1921)

Led league HBP (9) in 1917

Postseason: 0-for-1 (1925 World Series)

 

[kalinecountry]

The feud with Cobb, if true, had something to do with Cobb asking Heilmann to needle Veach, get under his skin so he would play with more of the chippiness that players played with back then. Veach was a mild mannered guy, and Cobb wanted to see more outward intensity from him. Once it escalated, Veach stopped talking to Heilmann and the resulting trade followed.
One of the two greatest Tigers leftfielders in the teams history along with Willie Horton.

 

[biggunsbob]

It was a great outfield... But alas no World Series appearances. After the 3 in a row from 1907-09 The Tigers came close only a few times. 2nd in 1911 the year before Veach and 13.5 games back with a 89-65 team. 1915 we have talked about before as they finished 100-54 and 2.5 games back of first place Boston. And 1923 they were in 2nd with a 83-71 record and 16 games back.. You have to wonder if some of the problem was the great Ty Cobb... He seemed like such a me first guy sometimes... Heck i don't know.. But with all those great players they should have won more then they did.. At least Bobby got in a world series game for Washington in 1925..

 

[kalinecountry]

It was a great outfield... But alas no World Series appearances. After the 3 in a row from 1907-09 The Tigers came close only a few times. 2nd in 1911 the year before Veach and 13.5 games back with a 89-65 team. 1915 we have talked about before as they finished 100-54 and 2.5 games back of first place Boston. And 1923 they were in 2nd with a 83-71 record and 16 games back.. You have to wonder if some of the problem was the great Ty Cobb... He seemed like such a me first guy sometimes... Heck i don't know.. But with all those great players they should have won more then they did..

Cobb was one of those managers, like Ted Williams, that didn't put as much of his baseball knowledge into his pitching corps or the coach. Imagine the Tigers had Carl Hubbell in their minors but Cobb told him that he wasn't throwing that pitch/screwball for him or the Tigers.

 

[biggunsbob]

Carl Hubbell Yup One I try to forget about!!!!!!

 

[mjsb2]

They also gave away Eddie Cicotte for nothing.

 

[biggunsbob]

Billy Pierce was a Tiger in 1945 and he was 3-0 for the Tigers in 1948 before being traded to the White Sox for 10,000 dollars and Aaron Robinson... Opps!!!

 

[biggunsbob]

Hubbell...253-154
Pierce.....211-169
Cicotte....209-148

 

[biggunsbob]

Tigers traded Bunning to soon... He posted 3 nineteen win season in a row after the deal.. Then a 17 win season before fading..
December 5, 1963: Traded by the Detroit Tigers with Gus Triandos to the Philadelphia Phillies for Don Demeter and Jack Hamilton.

 

[tycobb420]

The feud with Cobb, if true, had something to do with Cobb asking Heilmann to needle Veach, get under his skin so he would play with more of the chippiness that players played with back then. Veach was a mild mannered guy, and Cobb wanted to see more outward intensity from him. Once it escalated, Veach stopped talking to Heilmann and the resulting trade followed.
One of the two greatest Tigers leftfielders in the teams history along with Willie Horton.

That is pretty much what happened.

 

[tinselwolverine]

They also gave away Eddie Cicotte for nothing.

Yeah, I'm still pissed off about that.