Brennan Boesch

[tomdalton22]

How is this kid still on the Tiger's roster? He is a terrible baseball player.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It took you until Jan. 9 to give us this valuable info?

 

[tomdalton22]

It took you until Jan. 9 to give us this valuable info?

I was looking at the roster today....I honestly thought he was released already. WTF....why waste a roster spot on this piece of shit?

 

[Mitchrapp]

I was looking at the roster today....I honestly thought he was released already. WTF....why waste a roster spot on this piece of shit?

He's cheap. No reason to cut cheap guys.

 

[tigersofjustice]

The guy is not great but lets not act like one bad year suddenly makes him a pariah. He's inexpensive and has replacement level value, that's good enough to be a borderline roster guy.

 

[durtymrclean]

Brennan boesch still has trade value, he could prob fetch a reliever from the right team.

 

[mjsb2]

Brennan boesch still has trade value, he could prob fetch a reliever from the right team.

This is simply not true.

If he had any trade value, he'd be gone.

 

[Thumb]

This is simply not true.

If he had any trade value, he'd be gone.

You're oversimplifying it.

He obviously has value, but it takes two sides to agree on a trade. For all we know DD has had plenty of offers for him, but not what we needed/wanted.

The fact they tendered him a contract proves someone in the Tigers front office believes he has some kind of return value.

 

[mjsb2]

You're oversimplifying it.

He obviously has value, but it takes two sides to agree on a trade. For all we know DD has had plenty of offers for him, but not what we needed/wanted.

The fact they tendered him a contract proves someone in the Tigers front office believes he has some kind of return value.

If the Tigers could trade Boesch for a useful piece, he would be gone.

 

[Thumb]

If the Tigers could trade Boesch for a useful piece, he would be gone.

I agree.

But that does not mean Boesch has no value, it just means nobody who is interested in him has anything useful.

Seattle was supposedly hot for him, but really, Seattle has little to offer that we would really want, that would not be overpaying for Boesch.

 

[jdeb]

I think Boesch is the new whippin boy. He has settled in to Raburn's role nicely. LOL

 

[manchild98]

The Tigers and outfielder Brennan Boesch avoided arbitration on Friday by agreeing to a one-year, $2.3 million contract. Boesch batted .240 last season with 12 home runs and 54 RBI.


Good fuckin lord....on what planet would BB be worth 2.3 million??? Parents keep forcing your kids into sports because even if he blows he can be a multi-millionaire.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The Tigers and outfielder Brennan Boesch avoided arbitration on Friday by agreeing to a one-year, $2.3 million contract. Boesch batted .240 last season with 12 home runs and 54 RBI.


Good fuckin lord....on what planet would BB be worth 2.3 million??? Parents keep forcing your kids into sports because even if he blows he can be a multi-millionaire.

Its MLB. There are Boesch clones making that much all around baseball. Remember, Inge got a much bigger deal. I don't mind the deal at all.

 

[turok]

The Tigers and outfielder Brennan Boesch avoided arbitration on Friday by agreeing to a one-year, $2.3 million contract. Boesch batted .240 last season with 12 home runs and 54 RBI.


Good fuckin lord....on what planet would BB be worth 2.3 million??? Parents keep forcing your kids into sports because even if he blows he can be a multi-millionaire.

Still, the odds of becoming rich as a professional athlete in the US are extremely slim, and is like winning life's talent lottery @ birth. How many potential Babe Ruths, Ty Cobbs, Lefty Groves, and Christy Mathewsons for example, have come and gone over the decades, who never played the game past childhood age, for whatever reasons, and instead became cops, astronauts, doctors, teachers, cooks, ect...

How many former All-Stars and HOFers of the 50s-70s who are still alive, missed out on cashing in on the MM$$ gravy train that even mediocre MLBers are obtaining nowadays, even if they only manage to play professionally in the bigs for a few years? There were many old-timers such as Horton, Lolich, and Kaline who never earned even the leagues' current annual minimum salary during their careers. Bet that at least some have wished that they had been born and played a few generations later...

As it is, it seems that outside of pitching, more and more players in MLB are coming from outside the US, especially Central and South America. Same in the NHL, with more hockey players coming from Europe, when many if not most were originally from Canada in the past.

 

[kalinecountry]

Originally Posted by manchild98
The Tigers and outfielder Brennan Boesch avoided arbitration on Friday by agreeing to a one-year, $2.3 million contract. Boesch batted .240 last season with 12 home runs and 54 RBI.
Good fuckin lord....on what planet would BB be worth 2.3 million??? Parents keep forcing your kids into sports because even if he blows he can be a multi-millionaire.


Still, the odds of becoming rich as a professional athlete in the US are extremely slim, and is like winning life's talent lottery @ birth. How many potential Babe Ruths, Ty Cobbs, Lefty Groves, and Christy Mathewsons for example, have come and gone over the decades, who never played the game past childhood age, for whatever reasons, and instead became cops, astronauts, doctors, teachers, cooks, ect...

How many former All-Stars and HOFers of the 50s-70s who are still alive, missed out on cashing in on the MM$$ gravy train that even mediocre MLBers are obtaining nowadays, even if they only manage to play professionally in the bigs for a few years? There were many old-timers such as Horton, Lolich, and Kaline who never earned even the leagues' current annual minimum salary during their careers. Bet that at least some have wished that they had been born and played a few generations later...

As it is, it seems that outside of pitching, more and more players in MLB are coming from outside the US, especially Central and South America. Same in the NHL, with more hockey players coming from Europe, when many if not most were originally from Canada in the past.




I agree with both these posts. All the players we grew up with.
geezus, Kaline made just over $1 Million for his Career!!! He said a couple years back when asked about it, that he would have had 4/5 contracts of 4/5 years each if he played today.

even the worst, or seemingly always awful way too often, when needing/expecting something good from a player offensive/defensive like Boesch/borscht getting that kind of money. it's crazy.

 

[Rebbiv]

You cannot begrudge today's players from making this kind of money.

At one time in Kaline's day, CF bleacher seats were 50 cents. By the time Tiger Stadium closed, I believe they were at $3, which top seats around $8-10. Now with Comerica, the cheapest is $8 and the most expensive is $40 and up. In 1964, the average attendance was 9,953 (2003 = 16,892). In 2012, the average attendance was 37,383.

Average Tiger attendance

2008-2012 = 34,324 (avg 84.8 wins) x $31 average ticket = $86.2 Mil

1965-1971 = 20,121 (avg 90.8 wins) x 5 average ticket = $8.1 Mil

Now let's look at media revenue. In the 60's, the Tigers hardly made anything on local or national media. Today, it is in the tens of millions.


1985 Tiger Payroll = $10.3 Mil (divided by 25 = 412k)

1995 Tiger Payroll = $37.0 Mil

2005 Tiger Payroll = $69.1 Mil (divided by 25 = 2.76 Mil)

2012 Tiger Payroll = $131.4 Mil (divided by 25 = 5.26 Mil)

11 teams had a payroll less than $69.1 Mil (2005 Tigers) in 2012. That will be down to 6 teams in 2013.

 

[Rebbiv]

The Tigers and outfielder Brennan Boesch avoided arbitration on Friday by agreeing to a one-year, $2.3 million contract. Boesch batted .240 last season with 12 home runs and 54 RBI.


Good fuckin lord....on what planet would BB be worth 2.3 million??? Parents keep forcing your kids into sports because even if he blows he can be a multi-millionaire.

Neifi Perez 2007 $2.5 Mil

Shane Halter 2003 $2.15 Mil

Craig Paquette 2004 $2.63 Mil

Jose Mesa 2007 $2.5 Mil

 

[manchild98]

He made $502,500 last year and we all agreed he had a terrible year and he was basically benched. Now we sign him to a deal worth $2.3 million so we can avoid arbitration???

Now I don't exactly know how baseball arbitration works, but I think I've heard guys normally always geta raise. I assume the Tigers signed him to $2.3 but he may have been able to get more? What sense does that make? What has this guy EVER done to earn this raise percentage??? I realize 2.3 million is a drop in the bucket in the sports world but my god, it's insane to have to pay him that.

Manchild you've had a terrible year and you've been below average for most of your career...we've decided we don't want to lose you so we more than quadrupled your salary this year.

Don't you wish our real world jobs worked like that? I got a very good rating on my performance review this year....I'll most likely get a 3% raise and a bonus for a couple of grand.

 

[kalinecountry]

You cannot begrudge today's players from making this kind of money.

At one time in Kaline's day, CF bleacher seats were 50 cents. By the time Tiger Stadium closed, I believe they were at $3, which top seats around $8-10. Now with Comerica, the cheapest is $8 and the most expensive is $40 and up. In 1964, the average attendance was 9,953 (2003 = 16,892). In 2012, the average attendance was 37,383.

Average Tiger attendance

2008-2012 = 34,324 (avg 84.8 wins) x $31 average ticket = $86.2 Mil

1965-1971 = 20,121 (avg 90.8 wins) x 5 average ticket = $8.1 Mil

Now let's look at media revenue. In the 60's, the Tigers hardly made anything on local or national media. Today, it is in the tens of millions.


1985 Tiger Payroll = $10.3 Mil (divided by 25 = 412k)

1995 Tiger Payroll = $37.0 Mil

2005 Tiger Payroll = $69.1 Mil (divided by 25 = 2.76 Mil)

2012 Tiger Payroll = $131.4 Mil (divided by 25 = 5.26 Mil)

11 teams had a payroll less than $69.1 Mil (2005 Tigers) in 2012. That will be down to 6 teams in 2013.

much of what you posted is inflation, price of everything goes up.
My feelings weren't anything to do with a very large % of players, but more the boesch type, a crap year, and an over 400% raise.
neifi, shane, etc. all had about the same salary back then as Boesch got yesterday, but they had a few more years in the majors.

 

[Thumb]

I don't see Boesch as the lost cause most do.

He'll never be good or even average in the outfield defensively.

And his mechanics have flaws, but if someone can straighten them out, Boesch has some things going for him. For a big left-handed guy, with plenty of doubles power, he's nearly unmatched in speed/hustle for a guy his size. Also, he's no Brandon Charles Inge, when Boesch is not doing well, he's not popping off in the media, making excuses, he blames himself, probably to a point that it affected his approach at the plate ever worse.

Frankly I'd like to see him get his swing adjusted, even of that means someone in another system has to do it. As bad as he was last year, I find it hard not to root for a kid who's humble as he is, and probably has the most hustle of anyone I have seen on the Tigers in years.

Boesch is going to make a couple mil, that's nothing when you consider we paid Inge 6.5 million last season, to play the majority for another team, we paid Jose Valverde 9 million dollars to give us all indigestion all year.

2.3 million is chump change.