Confusing Things That Leyland Does

[tigersofjustice]

Good topic since Jimmy has started the season early with some moves that were questionable to say the least.

First topic, Delmon Young is now starting his second game in LF. The first game Ryan Raburn, a vastly superior defensive LF, was the DH. Today, Andy Dirks, a vastly superior LF is the DH.

Delmon Young has a career -14 UZR/150. Ryan Raburn conversely has a 6.8 UZR/150 in LF and Andy Dirks has a 7.5 UZR/150 in limited time in LF. For those who don't like UZR or similar statistical measures of defense, even simply watching Delmon Young is really all that is needed to determine he is terrible at playing defense.

Managerial decisions rarely cost a team much in the way of runs, but Jimmy seems determined to cost his team approximately 21 runs or so this season with one seemingly straightforward decision.

 

[motownwebguy]

Ryan Raburn is not vastly superior to Delmon Young In LF. Aside from arm strength differences, I have them rated pretty even.

I don't care what stat websites say differently. There are many more intangibles that comprise this game, that mathematical stats don't cover.

 

[kalinecountry]

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[tigersofjustice]

Ryan Raburn is not vastly superior to Delmon Young In LF. Aside from arm strength differences, I have them rated pretty even.

I don't care what stat websites say differently. There are many more intangibles that comprise this game, that mathematical stats don't cover.

Well, stats, scouts, whomever would probably all disagree with you. I'm curious as to what "intangibles" make Delmon Young an equivalent fielder?

 

[kalinecountry]

Raburn is a little better with the range, imo, probably stronger arm too.

Young takes these, idk how to describe it baby steps, tippy toes just doesn't seem to be running with strides.

But Leyland hasn't wasted anytime with the headscratching moves like the above.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Leyland has said numerous times DY won't DH and that Raburn will play more 2B. No reason to get upset, its happening.

 

[tigersofjustice]

Leyland has said numerous times DY won't DH and that Raburn will play more 2B. No reason to get upset, its happening.

Well we can still question it because it doesn't make any sense.

 

[sweetlou87]

Many players either strongly dislike DH, or simply do not hit well as a DH. For Delmon, it seems to be the former.
Jimmy likely is willing to sacrifice a little defense in exchange for keeping one of his bigger bats happy.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I argued and questioned enough last season. I'm just got to watch and bitch less, at least until Inge comes back.

 

[JScottWriter]

2-0 is the only stat that matters.

 

[mjsb2]

Many players either strongly dislike DH, or simply do not hit well as a DH. For Delmon, it seems to be the former.
Jimmy likely is willing to sacrifice a little defense in exchange for keeping one of his bigger bats happy.

Delmon isn't one of the bigger bats.

He should hit 8th or 9th, depending on whether Santiago plays or not.

 

[zonietigerfan]

DY isn't that bad in the field. Recall him making a decent play or 2 last season and he tossed out at least a couple of runners. Put it this way: DY's fielding isn't 1/10th the problem BI's hitting will be.

 

[austindayeisaboss]

I'm sure if Delmon gets into a slump Jim will try him at DH more often. Like sweeat lou said, some players strive in the batters box while playing in the field, (like delmon did last year) and some players are just born to be just hitters. I think he willl be fine this year but thankfully if he does get in a slump we have some good replacments.

 

[jmakula87]

Raburn is a little better with the range, imo, probably stronger arm too.

Young takes these, idk how to describe it baby steps, tippy toes just doesn't seem to be running with strides.

But Leyland hasn't wasted anytime with the headscratching moves like the above.

Ugh, yes. I hate those baby steps he takes. If he had learned how to run with any type of striding at all, he would be at least a little faster/look a little more like a real athlete in the outfield.

 

[austindayeisaboss]

Delmon isn't one of the bigger bats.

He should hit 8th or 9th, depending on whether Santiago plays or not.

Says his 21 homerun, 112 RBI, .298 BA, 2010 season

 

[Rebbiv]

Says his 21 homerun, 112 RBI, .298 BA, 2010 season

Says his 12 homerun, 64 RBI, .268 BA (.695 OPS) 2011

 

[Rebbiv]

Ryan Raburn is not vastly superior to Delmon Young In LF. Aside from arm strength differences, I have them rated pretty even.

I don't care what stat websites say differently. There are many more intangibles that comprise this game, that mathematical stats don't cover.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly are the intangibles?

Quite frankly, your comment would be in akin to saying Jhonny Peralta is not vastly superior to Brandon Inge as a hitter, iffin you take "intangibles" into account. And then not offer what those intangibles might be.

Being a stat-minded individual, Raburn is certainly vastly superior to Young and I can back that up with fielding statistics. Why, by nature, is a historical account of what happened.

 

[mjsb2]

I'm sure if Delmon gets into a slump Jim will try him at DH more often. Like sweeat lou said, some players strive in the batters box while playing in the field, (like delmon did last year) and some players are just born to be just hitters. I think he willl be fine this year but thankfully if he does get in a slump we have some good replacments.

Delmon strived in the batters box last year?

Other than the small sample size in the playoffs, he wasn't a good hitter.

 

[spockmaster]

it freaks me out how delusional Young and Leyland are about his fielding and hitting abilities.

 

[tigersofjustice]

Now Inge comes back....and is immediately 1. put in the lineup 2. as a DH, both things are confusing considering he took out Boesch of all people, a guy with no lefty platoon splits.

In addition, he manages to put Inge in the lineup AND to not remove Young, Miggy or Fielder from the field. Smokes isn't grasping this concept of 'defense' very well.