Confusing Things That Leyland Does

[spockmaster]

Ryan Raburn is not vastly superior to Delmon Young In LF. Aside from arm strength differences, I have them rated pretty even.

I don't care what stat websites say differently. There are many more intangibles that comprise this game, that mathematical stats don't cover.

id just like to point this out now:

and say this: what fucking intangibles??? the innate ability to pirouette and miss the catch?????


Raburn > Young in every facet of the game.

 

[biggunsbob]

Did you miss Raburn going after the ball in right field in the ninth today? It was almost as bad as that.. Ryan is a better fielder then Young in the outfield but Ryan will still cost you games out there too and at the plate why he is not hitting for 3 months.. At least DY has put the ball in play.. Young does not want to DH in a contract year even though he should and hatchet Mudhen should never see the field at second base.

Raburn's numbers through 7 games . 080/.115 /.080/.195
Young's numbers through 7 games . .280 /.367 /.400 /.767

You can't even defend those numbers against happy feet young's terrible outfield play.

 

[biggunsbob]

Ryan Raburn in action.


http://detroit.sbnation.com/detroit-tigers/2011/4/26/2135459/ryan-raburn-home-run-blooper-video

 

[spockmaster]

except that young does that on an almost daily basis, wheras raburn does not. also 7 days of data is bullshit. ill take their numbers from the last few years, all of which say raburn is the better player both offensively and defensively, and not just in the 2nd half.

 

[spockmaster]

http://designaterobertson.blogspot.com/2012/04/attempting-to-defend-ryan-raburn.html#disqus_thread

 

[motownwebguy]

id just like to point this out now:

and say this: what fucking intangibles??? the innate ability to pirouette and miss the catch?????


Raburn > Young in every facet of the game.

Have you ever been to Chicago?
Do you know where that ballpark rates...
... in wind conditions?
... in wind speeds?
... in wind changes?

Plus... you are showing us (1) video?
How about showing us (1) video where Delmon makes an outstanding catch?

Oh Wait! You probably never saved any of those.
Figures!

 

[Mitchrapp]

except that young does that on an almost daily basis, wheras raburn does not. also 7 days of data is bullshit. ill take their numbers from the last few years, all of which say raburn is the better player both offensively and defensively, and not just in the 2nd half.

He doesn't do that on daily basis. It might look like he struggles to catch up to a ball but usually catches them and KBurn just isn't 7 days but a pattern of bad play early and often ..

 

[Mitchrapp]

And Spock, how can you say KBurn is better at that plate with both having career WAR of 5.2?

 

[cmlfactor]

They both suck and belong at *******DH*********

 

[mjsb2]

Ryan Raburn in action.


http://detroit.sbnation.com/detroit-tigers/2011/4/26/2135459/ryan-raburn-home-run-blooper-video

Certainly an epic error, the only difference is Raburn covered a ton of ground on that, and had he made that catch it would have been a very nice play, most LFs don't even get to that ball, it going over the fence was just bad luck.

Raburn has more poor plays than the average OFer, but he also has more good plays than the average Ofer, overall he's an average defensive LFer.

 

[motownwebguy]

I prefer Raburn on a rival team.
He's too Jekyll and Hyde. Our roster should be represented by more consistent players.

Who knows thou! Maybe Ilitch has a soft spot with Ryan too - why he remains.
I dunno!

 

[mjsb2]

Have you ever been to Chicago?
Do you know where that ballpark rates...
... in wind conditions?
... in wind speeds?
... in wind changes?

Plus... you are showing us (1) video?
How about showing us (1) video where Delmon makes an outstanding catch?

Oh Wait! You probably never saved any of those.
Figures!

There are none, I know you mentioned the catch he made running to the foul line the other day, but every LFer in baseball makes that catch, and they make it look like the routine catch it was.

Young has poor range, he gets poor jumps, and he doesn't take good routes. In addition to that, you can pretty much assume every fly ball that lands 10 feet in front of him would be an out with any other LFer out there because he plays so deep because he can't go back on the ball.

 

[mjsb2]

And Spock, how can you say KBurn is better at that plate with both having career WAR of 5.2?

Who is a better HR hitter, somebody with 100 HRs in 3000 career PAs, or somebody with 100 HRs in 1500 career PAs?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Certainly an epic error, the only difference is Raburn covered a ton of ground on that, and had he made that catch it would have been a very nice play, most LFs don't even get to that ball, it going over the fence was just bad luck.

Raburn has more poor plays than the average OFer, but he also has more good plays than the average Ofer, overall he's an average defensive LFer.

That's because the average LF these days are bad. Most LF stink..

 

[Mitchrapp]

Who is a better HR hitter, somebody with 100 HRs in 3000 career PAs, or somebody with 100 HRs in 1500 career PAs?

What does that have to do with these two guys? One has 72 home runs and the other has 53..

 

[Mitchrapp]

Oh yeah I forgot :lmao:

 

[mjsb2]

That's because the average LF these days are bad. Most LF stink..

Yeah.

 

[mjsb2]

What does that have to do with these two guys? One has 72 home runs and the other has 53..

WAR is a counting stat.

 

[Mitchrapp]

WAR is a counting stat.

But what does 100 home runs have to do with two guys who aren't even close to 100 home runs? I don't get it unless you're implying more home runs equals the better player?

 

[biggunsbob]

August 16 2009... Ryan Rugburn committed 3 errors in a 3-2 loss at KC and his 10 inning error cost the Tigers the game and the division... Leyland continues to use this clown all wrong... How many games did he cost the Tigers at 2nd base last year for 3 months with his poor hitting and his 10 errors in 56 games before Jim started to use him right the last two months.. His hitting has regressed verses RHP the last few years.... We all know he is better then Young in the outfield but Young will pout if he is the DH like he should be.. All Raburn is is a platoon player or a fourth outfielder at best... Bat him verses LHP only and he has value...