Coronainsanity

[Spartanmack]

I don?t know, but I?ve done some additional calculations since you quoted me.

you might want to check your math - looks like, in each case you added a "%" sign without moving the decimal place. That's one of those mistakes a cool teacher would only penalize you once since you were consistent but an asshole teacher would take points off for every one.

 

[Spartanmack]

882 people tied to Pronvincetown outbreak, 74% were fully immunized and the vast majority were also reporting symptoms.

Cue MC to call ABC News a tabloid and say there's not data in the article to support the data in the article.

 

[tinselwolverine]

you might want to check your math - looks like, in each case you added a "%" sign without moving the decimal place. That's one of those mistakes a cool teacher would only penalize you once since you were consistent but an asshole teacher would take points off for every one.

I didn?t do the math, my handheld computer did. I just dictated the numerators and denominators.

What I think you?re telling me is the numerals themselves without the percentage symbol are the actual correct representations of the percentages ? am I getting that right?

 

[tigermud]

The era of medical discrimination has begun

This is only the beginning of a much larger push that will not end until millions of people stand up for their personal freedoms.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/here...g-vaccinations-or-adopting-vaccine-passports/

 

[tigermud]

Boondoggle

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62418

 

[Spartanmack]

I didn?t do the math, my handheld computer did. I just dictated the numerators and denominators.

What I think you?re telling me is the numerals themselves without the percentage symbol are the actual correct representations of the percentages ? am I getting that right?

they're the correct quotients (except the first one is actually .0002439 when I did it - which I assumed was a fat finger thing). But you have to multiply them by 100 to get the percentages. so the 2,000 cases represents .02439% of the population and so on.

 

[tinselwolverine]

they're the correct quotients (except the first one is actually .0002439 when I did it - which I assumed was a fat finger thing). But you have to multiply them by 100 to get the percentages. so the 2,000 cases represents .02439% of the population and so on.

Right. Thanks. I am now kind of remembering that rule from when I learned division back in elementary school it was I guess.

Even at 100 times more than I represented in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths based on the entire population - it don?t seem to me to be that much of a medical crisis.

 

[Spartanmack]

Right. Thanks. I am now kind of remembering that rule from when I learned division back in elementary school it was I guess.

Even at 100 times more than I represented in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths based on the entire population - it don?t seem to me to be that much of a medical crisis.

I agree, the issue to me isn't the absolute numbers but the fact everyone in the hospital with COVID was fully vaccinated except for one who had received the first shot.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I agree, the issue to me isn't the absolute numbers but the fact everyone in the hospital with COVID was fully vaccinated except for one who had received the first shot.

Yes ? it is so bizarre to me that it seems to be the opposite of what is happening here.

The vaccine does seem to be having some mitigating effects when people become infected, I guess it was supposed to.

 

[Spartanmack]

Yes ? it is so bizarre to me that it seems to be the opposite of what is happening here.

The vaccine does seem to be having some mitigating effects when people become infected, I guess it was supposed to.

it's not that far off though - according the data from the Provincetown outbreak, 74% of the infected are fully vaccinated and the vast majority of infected are showing symptoms. What they don't tell you is how sick they are - showing symptoms could mean just about anything.

I saw or heard an interesting tidbit yesterday. I forget who and where it came from but talked about the change in guidance for vaccine storage and whether that can be a contributing factor - are these vaccinated people getting sick because the vaccine isn't effective against a particular variant, does it's effectiveness degrade over time or were people given an ineffective, expired vaccine that was either stored too long or improperly or both?

 

[Michchamp]

it's not that far off though - according the data from the Provincetown outbreak, 74% of the infected are fully vaccinated and the vast majority of infected are showing symptoms. What they don't tell you is how sick they are.

With 2 seconds of internet searching, you could have figured that out (US News):

New data on the [PROVINCETOWN] outbreak, released Friday, shows there were a known total of 469 COVID-19 cases "associated with multiple summer events" among Provincetown revelers. Three-quarters (74%) of those cases occurred among people who'd gotten their COVID vaccinations an average of almost three months before.

In 89% of those cases, the highly contagious Delta variant was implicated, concluded a team led by Dr. Catherine Brown of the Massachusetts Department of Public Health.

There was some good news, however: While many of the 346 cases among vaccinated individuals might have made them feel miserable for a time -- coughs, headache, sore throat, aches and fever being the major symptoms -- there were only four cases (1.2%) in this group that required hospital care. In all four of those hospitalized cases, patients had underlying medical conditions that upped their odds for severe COVID-19, the researchers found.

A fifth case requiring hospitalization occurred in an unvaccinated patient, Brown's team noted, and that case also involved an underlying medical condition.

There were no deaths linked to the outbreak.

The researchers noted that it's not surprising that three-quarters of cases in the Provincetown outbreak occurred among the vaccinated, because a full 69% of the town's vaccine-eligible residents have gotten their shots -- a number that's much higher than the national average.
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I'm glad I'm vaccinated... getting a little bit sick, is a lot better than going to the hospital, or being bedridden for a week + a month of struggling to breathe like a good friend of mine. Plus the potential for brain damage or long term heart/lung complications? No thanks.

Look at the case count in the US (link). We've now gone past the July 2020 Peak in terms of new cases per day, across the country. And this is hitting the places that didn't get as badly affected during last year, like the deep south, Missouri, Texas, Florida.

Top 10 States (link) for new cases/day: Florida (running away with it), Texas, CA, LA, GA, MO, AR, AZ, NV, & CO.

 

[Michchamp]

I've never been to Provincetown, but from what I know it's kind of like Spring Break there all summer. Lots of unmasked people drinking indoors and yelling... not the best idea during a pandemic, even if vaccinated.

This wasn't an outbreak in NORMAL circumstances, is what I'm saying.

 

[Spartanmack]

With 2 seconds of internet searching, you could have figured that out (US News):

New data on the [PROVINCETOWN] outbreak, released Friday, shows there were a known total of 469 COVID-19 cases "associated with multiple summer events" among Provincetown revelers. Three-quarters (74%) of those cases occurred among people who'd gotten their COVID vaccinations an average of almost three months before.

In 89% of those cases, the highly contagious Delta variant was implicated, concluded a team led by Dr. Catherine Brown of the Massachusetts Department of Public Health.

There was some good news, however: While many of the 346 cases among vaccinated individuals might have made them feel miserable for a time -- coughs, headache, sore throat, aches and fever being the major symptoms -- there were only four cases (1.2%) in this group that required hospital care. In all four of those hospitalized cases, patients had underlying medical conditions that upped their odds for severe COVID-19, the researchers found.

A fifth case requiring hospitalization occurred in an unvaccinated patient, Brown's team noted, and that case also involved an underlying medical condition.

There were no deaths linked to the outbreak.

The researchers noted that it's not surprising that three-quarters of cases in the Provincetown outbreak occurred among the vaccinated, because a full 69% of the town's vaccine-eligible residents have gotten their shots -- a number that's much higher than the national average.
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I'm glad I'm vaccinated... getting a little bit sick, is a lot better than going to the hospital, or being bedridden for a week + a month of struggling to breathe like a good friend of mine. Plus the potential for brain damage or long term heart/lung complications? No thanks.

Look at the case count in the US (link). We've now gone past the July 2020 Peak in terms of new cases per day, across the country. And this is hitting the places that didn't get as badly affected during last year, like the deep south, Missouri, Texas, Florida.

Top 10 States (link) for new cases/day: Florida (running away with it), Texas, CA, LA, GA, MO, AR, AZ, NV, & CO.

The ABC news piece says 882 infections have been traced to Provincetown. Unless you've gotten a lot fatter, you'd only get a little sick from COVID but now you've likely made yourself vaccine dependent requiring boosters the rest of your life, have taken on spike proteins that you'll have forever and possibly altered your DNA voluntarily taking a "vaccine" that wasn't tested and may not even protect you, all for a disease that doesn't pose a risk to you.

 

[Michchamp]

The ABC news piece says 882 infections have been traced to Provincetown. Unless you've gotten a lot fatter, you'd only get a little sick from COVID but now you've likely made yourself vaccine dependent requiring boosters the rest of your life, have taken on spike proteins that you'll have forever and possibly altered your DNA voluntarily taking a "vaccine" that wasn't tested and may not even protect you, all for a disease that doesn't pose a risk to you.

When it comes to my health, I prioritize the advice of my doctor over youtube videos and religious kooks on the internet, thanks.

 

[tigermud]

https://www.brighteon.com/6657f4c5-a077-4136-b922-242c0236bb83

 

[Gulo Blue]

With a claim like vaccine dependency, at least there's a point where a year goes by and someone doesn't get a booster and doesn't die and you're forced to realize what a dumbass you were.

 

[Spartanmack]

When it comes to my health, I prioritize the advice of my doctor over youtube videos and religious kooks on the internet, thanks.

maybe you did get a lot fatter then.

 

[Spartanmack]

With regular claims like systemic or institutionalized racism and unconscious bias I never have to wait year to know what dumbasses some people are.

 

[tigermud]

Mexican President Rejects Jabs For Kids, "Won't Be Held Hostage By [Profiteering] Pharma Companies"

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...be-held-hostage-profiteering-pharma-companies

 

[byco42]

When it comes to my health, I prioritize the advice of my doctor over youtube videos and religious kooks on the internet, thanks.

There is significant disagreement within the medical profession as to what treatment for this virus is effective and useful. It?s endemic to the general separation of opinions within the medical profession, which is as fractured as any other organization in the US. Many certified medical professionals with solid reputations have voiced their opinions on how to minimize the effects of this virus and have been outcast or muzzled because their approach does not include masks and non-FDA-approved vaccines.

I believe that the ramifications of this massive clinical experiment have yet to surface en masse. When that occurs, the Powers Who Are will not take responsibility or be held accountable.