Coronainsanity

[tigermud]

Medical Segregation, Medical Discrimination

Pointing out that the majority of black people in the United States have not yet had a COVID vaccine, Dr. Drew asserted that vaccine passports which ban the unvaccinated from venues like bars and restaurants are a new form of ?segregation.?

he's right, it's a racist policy.

 

[Michchamp]

Medical Segregation, Medical Discrimination

Pointing out that the majority of black people in the United States have not yet had a COVID vaccine, Dr. Drew asserted that vaccine passports which ban the unvaccinated from venues like bars and restaurants are a new form of ?segregation.?

he's right, it's a racist policy.

It's not a policy, it's a discussion topic.

But I've seen others make the same point, and similar points about blaming anti-vaxx rubes like you and spartanmack for the low rural vaccination rates, which ignores the fact that African Americans are mostly unvaccinated as well.

people are starting to ask WHY so few African Americans are vaccinated, at least. I'm curious to know as well.

 

[byco42]

It's not a policy, it's a discussion topic.

But I've seen others make the same point, and similar points about blaming anti-vaxx rubes like you and spartanmack for the low rural vaccination rates, which ignores the fact that African Americans are mostly unvaccinated as well.

I?m one the ?rubes? who will not get vaccinated. I?m unconvinced that it?s effective and am suspicious of its longer-term effects. And I refuse to participate in an international clinical trial.

people are starting to ask WHY so few African Americans are vaccinated, at least. I'm curious to know as well.

Tuskegee. Look it up. Biden himself even acknowledged this.

Never mind: Here

 

[Michchamp]

I?m one the ?rubes? who will not get vaccinated. I?m unconvinced that it?s effective and am suspicious of its longer-term effects. And I refuse to participate in an international clinical trial.



Tuskegee. Look it up. Biden himself even acknowledged this.

I heard the Tuskegee thing, and also immediately accepted it, but just read this short essay today that pokes some holes in the logic there.

the fact that higher educated African Americans - who you'd think would be more familiar with Tuskegee than less educated individuals - have higher vaccination rates undermines that... by a lot.

One of the reasons I am bringing this up is because it seems to me that this just-so story about black vaccine hesitancy is actually very unhelpful when it comes to trying to getting black people and the population more generally vaccinated. It?s soothing to a certain mindset that is prevalent in the discourse, but it?s totally detached from reality and papers over the much more significant socioeconomic factors.​

 

[tinselwolverine]

FYI, I saw N95's on clearance at Lowe's yesterday. Not the shape I prefer, but in a pinch you can make them work if you want to.

I?m vaccinated.

Also pretty sure I had the Covid end of Jan/early Feb 2020, before anyone even knew it was here.

Heard about the t-detect test right after I got vacced.

Called them; they said the test wouldn?t be able to tell if immunity was from the vacc or from having had Covid.

Oh well.

As far as I?m concerned, the pandemic is over.

Or more actually, the pandemic that never really happened is over.

 

[byco42]

I heard the Tuskegee thing, and also immediately accepted it, but just read this short essay today that pokes some holes in the logic there.

the fact that higher educated African Americans - who you'd think would be more familiar with Tuskegee than less educated individuals - have higher vaccination rates undermines that... by a lot.

One of the reasons I am bringing this up is because it seems to me that this just-so story about black vaccine hesitancy is actually very unhelpful when it comes to trying to getting black people and the population more generally vaccinated. It?s soothing to a certain mindset that is prevalent in the discourse, but it?s totally detached from reality and papers over the much more significant socioeconomic factors.​

That?s some drive-by statically driven analysis, especially the ?the white people are doing it, too!? rationale, coupled with ?college-educated people have more common sense than non-college-educated people? propaganda.

I ain?t gettin? no jab never.

?Are we meant to think that black people who aren?t getting the vaccine believe that the government is poisoning 100 million white people because the government has a racist history of poisoning black people??​

This is Eric Stratton logic at its best. And this ?analyst? needs to research the (Operation LAC) project for an answer to this fourth-grade ?gotcha? question.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I heard the Tuskegee thing, and also immediately accepted it, but just read this short essay today that pokes some holes in the logic there.

the fact that higher educated African Americans - who you'd think would be more familiar with Tuskegee than less educated individuals - have higher vaccination rates undermines that... by a lot.

One of the reasons I am bringing this up is because it seems to me that this just-so story about black vaccine hesitancy is actually very unhelpful when it comes to trying to getting black people and the population more generally vaccinated. It?s soothing to a certain mindset that is prevalent in the discourse, but it?s totally detached from reality and papers over the much more significant socioeconomic factors.​

All right then, let?s just go and apply logic and reason to the uneducated black people regarding their vaccine hesitancy.

You start with Harlem, and I?ll take on Watts.

 

[Michchamp]

coworker told me that he was taking his elderly mother to a dr. appointment yesterday, and the doctor told him the amount of new patients they were seeing was in excess of the prior waves, the hospital was now at capacity, and they were going to have to start turning people away if this continued.

someone forgot to tell coronavirus the pandemic is over

 

[Michchamp]

All right then, let?s just go and apply logic and reason to the uneducated black people regarding their vaccine hesitancy.

You start with Harlem, and I?ll take on Watts.

I'm not near Harlem

 

[byco42]

coworker told me that he was taking his elderly mother to a dr. appointment yesterday, and the doctor told him the amount of new patients they were seeing was in excess of the prior waves, the hospital was now at capacity, and they were going to have to start turning people away if this continued.

someone forgot to tell coronavirus the pandemic is over

This is informative data specific to Houston. The R0 has dropped from 1.58 to 1.43 in a week?s time, which is positive news, but still indicates a spread.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm not near Harlem

Well, you?re closer than I am.

Are we gonna get together and do something about this, or are we gonna continue to to sit on our asses and whine about it on the interwebs?

 

[Michchamp]

This is informative data specific to Houston. The R0 has dropped from 1.58 to 1.43 in a week?s time, which is positive news, but still indicates a spread.

download the report from the CDC's health data page (link). It's even more alarming. much of the south, the "Acela Corridor" from Boston to DC, and CA are all "rapid riser" territory.

one can criticize the CDC, or choose not to believe it if one wants, but I don't
know any other source that collects and compiles health data in the US like that.

 

[Spartanmack]

It's not a policy, it's a discussion topic.

But I've seen others make the same point, and similar points about blaming anti-vaxx rubes like you and spartanmack for the low rural vaccination rates, which ignores the fact that African Americans are mostly unvaccinated as well.

people are starting to ask WHY so few African Americans are vaccinated, at least. I'm curious to know as well.

It's policy in New York City and elsewhere and I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've taken virtually all of the FDA approved vaccinations and so have my wife and children. When this vaccine has been properly tested and approved and shown not to have serious long term side effects, I'll consider getting it as well but for now, thanks to informed consent, I'm not taking an untested vaccine for a virus that isn't a threat to me.

 

[Spartanmack]

I?m vaccinated.

Also pretty sure I had the Covid end of Jan/early Feb 2020, before anyone even knew it was here.

Heard about the t-detect test right after I got vacced.

Called them; they said the test wouldn?t be able to tell if immunity was from the vacc or from having had Covid.

Oh well.

As far as I?m concerned, the pandemic is over.

Or more actually, the pandemic that never really happened is over.

I just got a prescription for t-detect last night. There's a very good chance my wife and I had it as well around Christmas time 2019. We were both sick for several days - she was zapped of energy and I had flu like symptoms with coughing fits that I couldn't get under control. Around spring time 2020 when COVID was dominating the news cycle my assistant reminded me we had an appointment in my office in Dec 2019 with a couple that had just returned from China after the Chinese New Year. She also reminded me it was right before I got really sick. So for the last year+ I've felt there's a very good chance I have had it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I just got a prescription for t-detect last night. There's a very good chance my wife and I had it as well around Christmas time 2019. We were both sick for several days - she was zapped of energy and I had flu like symptoms with coughing fits that I couldn't get under control. Around spring time 2020 when COVID was dominating the news cycle my assistant reminded me we had an appointment in my office in Dec 2019 with a couple that had just returned from China after the Chinese New Year. She also reminded me it was right before I got really sick. So for the last year+ I've felt there's a very good chance I have had it.

Good if you had it - you?re immunity would blow the immunity from the vacc out of the water.

Again, wish I had known about t-detect before I got the shot.

But what the hell - statistically, the shot is far, far less dangerous than some of the shit I used to put in my body from back in the day, knowing at the time the shit would have zero medical benefit whatsoever.

 

[tigermud]

It's not a policy, it's a discussion topic.

But I've seen others make the same point, and similar points about blaming anti-vaxx rubes like you and spartanmack for the low rural vaccination rates, which ignores the fact that African Americans are mostly unvaccinated as well.

people are starting to ask WHY so few African Americans are vaccinated, at least. I'm curious to know as well.

History is why. There is no reason to put trust in that eugenicist have humanities best interest at heart. Some people get that more than others. It's also not a discussion it's already being mandated in NYC and will spread to nearly all libdem run shitholes next.

 

[tigermud]

I?m vaccinated.

Also pretty sure I had the Covid end of Jan/early Feb 2020, before anyone even knew it was here.

Heard about the t-detect test right after I got vacced.

Called them; they said the test wouldn?t be able to tell if immunity was from the vacc or from having had Covid.

Oh well.

As far as I?m concerned, the pandemic is over.

Or more actually, the pandemic that never really happened is over.

I'm afraid it's not over Tinsel they are already starting to talk up Delta Plus now. It will never be over until enough people rise up and refuse to comply.


In other news apparently CN has an Alex Jones now, his name is Chris Sky. He has been 100% accurate thus far as to what comes next.

 

[tigermud]

The CDC is also not a trust worthy organization

https://technofog.substack.com/p/how-the-cdc-betrayed-victims-of-agent

And it's current director is nothing more than a crazed libdem fear monger who just assume everybody stay locked up in their homes 24/7

 

[tigermud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6mvj4gkI0Q

 

[Spartanmack]

Good if you had it - you?re immunity would blow the immunity from the vacc out of the water.

Again, wish I had known about t-detect before I got the shot.

But what the hell - statistically, the shot is far, far less dangerous than some of the shit I used to put in my body from back in the day, knowing at the time the shit would have zero medical benefit whatsoever.

maybe - could be if I had it, it was long ago enough that immunity has depleted or is gone completely. I also have a telemed appointment with America's Frontline Doctors which I will probably reschedule for after I have the results of the t-detect.