Coronainsanity

[tigermud]

https://youtu.be/QH6-seSJMBo

 

[Michchamp]

We?ve all had our moments. Let?s make some allowances.

He's probably distressed by that recurring nightmare he has, where Fauci climbs into his bedroom window, and forcibly inoculates him against COVID.

 

[Gulo Blue]

What constitutes a vaccine passport? I think the CDC already has a record. Is it about the government record or the travel restriction? We're not really in control of other nation's requirements.

 

[tigermud]

What constitutes a vaccine passport? I think the CDC already has a record. Is it about the government record or the travel restriction? We're not really in control of other nation's requirements.

Needing to provide proof of vaccination to function in society, eat out, have a job, attend a sporting event, buy food, go to a gym, interstate travel etc. this is the direction things are heading and it?s not right, that?s a line too far

 

[Spartanmack]

197mm people in America have received at least a first dose since the first vaccine was given in early January. In that time almost 1.2mm people have died in the US. It's not so hard to see that 45k of them could have died within 72 hours of a jab, especially when you consider we prioritized elderly and infirmed with the vaccine - that doesn't mean the jab killed them. Heck, if half the people murdered in Chicago had received their first dose within 72 hours of being shot, you could easily see how you could get to 45k nationwide over in 7.5 months.

 

[tinselwolverine]

197mm people in America have received at least a first dose since the first vaccine was given in early January. In that time almost 1.2mm people have died in the US. It's not so hard to see that 45k of them could have died within 72 hours of a jab, especially when you consider we prioritized elderly and infirmed with the vaccine - that doesn't mean the jab killed them. Heck, if half the people murdered in Chicago had received their first dose within 72 hours of being shot, you could easily see how you could get to 45k nationwide over in 7.5 months.

The lawyer, Michael Green, provides zero data to support that claim.

In #3630, I linked to the VAERS report, the official repository for actual data compiled by the medical community for adverse events associated to vaccines. The count is 6000.

So until the attorney provides actual to support such a radical departure from what is considered to be the most accurate source, I call bullshit.

EDIT: ?This is because the US FDA requires healthcare providers to report any deaths after a COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS even if it's unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.?

So in order for the lawyer?s claim to be true, 39,000 deaths would have had to occur without the health care providers reporting them, in direct violation of the FDA requirement.

That?s a magnitude of 750% higher.

Yet no one in the country noticed this except this one fuckin? lawyer in Hawai?i?

This notion is beyond absurd.

That is how I can confidently say I KNOW it?s bullshit.

 

[tigermud]

The lawyer guy made the allegation some people here said I call BS!. that's fine, I support your right to call BS, point being just because info wars reported it doesn't make it untrue which is what some seemed to take the issue with or use as the reason it's BS just simply because IW reported it so it must be BS. clown world.

 

[tigermud]

VAERS is a passive reporting system doubt that is what he is basing his claim on.

 

[Spartanmack]

The lawyer, Michael Green, provides zero data to support that claim.

In #3630, I linked to the VAERS report, the official repository for actual data compiled by the medical community for adverse events associated to vaccines. The count is 6000.

So until the attorney provides actual to support such a radical departure from what is considered to be the most accurate source, I call bullshit.

EDIT: ?This is because the US FDA requires healthcare providers to report any deaths after a COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS even if it's unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.?

So in order for the lawyer?s claim to be true, 39,000 deaths would have had to occur without the health care providers reporting them, in direct violation of the FDA requirement.

That?s a magnitude of 750% higher.

Yet no one in the country noticed this except this one fuckin? lawyer in Hawai?i?

This notion is beyond absurd.

That is how I can confidently say I KNOW it?s bullshit.

He also provides no specifics about his claim which is why I don't necessarily think it's bullshit. Green isn't saying those 45k people died from the jab. It's not at all hard to believe that with 197mm+ jabs administered that 45k of the ~1.2mm people that have died (from all causes) in the US since we started vaccinating people were within 72 hours of vaccination. That's why I threw in the joke about Chighanistan - you could be walking out of a clinic on the south or west side moments after the jab and get shot dead we could get to 45k really quickly. The jab doesn't stop bullets, heart attacks, car crashes, getting run over by a bus... Obviously, he's implying the jab has killed more than the 5k or so people reported through VAERS, but I don't read that as an assertion that all those 45k died from the vaccine. If he is, then I agree that's likely total BS, but the way i interpret it is it's a hyperbolic way of saying he thinks the VAERS numbers are understated - it's shady lawyer speak to draw attention to what he thinks is understated vaccine deaths.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Wait, what?

The lack of specificity is what makes his claim credible?

Not only is his claim hard to believe, it is impossible to believe.

It is impossible to believe because there is an official reporting repository ? again ? and it?s the VAERS.

Again, healthcare providers are required to report every death after the vaccine to that agency.

There were 12,000 reported. It has been revised to 6000 because it was the determined that it was impossible and 6000 of the cases that the job could have been the cause.

Either this guy is lying, or 39,000 healthcare providers are.

EDIT: My bad, of course the 6000 dismissed nevertheless have to be counted as having been reported.

That brings us down to 33,000 lying healthcare providers.

Obviously the number of lying healthcare providers could be even lower as one or more healthcare provider could have failed to report more than one death.

Arguably, one single healthcare provider could be responsible for not reporting all 33,000 unreported deaths.

If that?s the case, that person shouldn?t be too hard to find.

If that?s the case, we should go to that person and say ?hey ? what the fuck??

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8IvMiUlZM

 

[Spartanmack]

Wait, what?

The lack of specificity is what makes his claim credible?

Not only is his claim hard to believe, it is impossible to believe.

It is impossible to believe because there isn?t an official reporting repository ? again ? and it?s the VAERS.

Again, healthcare providers are required to report every death after the vaccine to that agency.

There were 12,000 reported. It has been revised to 6000 because it was the determined that it was impossible and 6000 of the cases that the job could have been the cause.

Either this guy is lying, or 39,000 healthcare providers are.

I think you're missing the joke here. The lack of specificity doesn't make it credible, merely a possibility. The lack of an official reporting repository doesn't make it impossible to believe, it makes it impossible to prove/disprove - a convenient fact for him. 45k people don't have to have died from the vaccine for him to cast doubt on it, they just have to have died with the vaccine. And given the sheer numbers of shots 197mm and deaths FROM ALL CAUSES (~1.2mm) since the shots began, 45k within 3 days of a shot doesn't seem impossible - it also doesn't indicate that the shot isn't safe. I don't think 45k people died from the shot, and I don't think Green does either.

Also, I didn't know anything about VAERS reporting so I looked it up - it's not required, reporting is voluntary.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I think you're missing the joke here. The lack of specificity doesn't make it credible, merely a possibility. The lack of an official reporting repository doesn't make it impossible to believe, it makes it impossible to prove/disprove - a convenient fact for him. 45k people don't have to have died from the vaccine for him to cast doubt on it, they just have to have died with the vaccine. And given the sheer numbers of shots 197mm and deaths FROM ALL CAUSES (~1.2mm) since the shots began, 45k within 3 days of a shot doesn't seem impossible - it also doesn't indicate that the shot isn't safe. I don't think 45k people died from the shot, and I don't think Green does either.

Also, I didn't know anything about VAERS reporting so I looked it up - it's not required, reporting is voluntary.

Except in the case of death - it is required by the FDA for the health care provider to report that to VAERS. That info is on the link I posted in #3630. Which makes sense. Everything else is self-reported, but that?s a pretty tough one for that.

And you?re not wrong - not only could have been deaths after the shot, there were 6000 deemed not related to shot, 6000 indeterminate. 12,000 deaths reported by health care providers to VAERS, as required by the FDA.

 

[Michchamp]

I think you're missing the joke here. The lack of specificity doesn't make it credible, merely a possibility. ...

That's suppose to be a joke?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Except in the case of death - it is required by the FDA for the health care provider to report that to VAERS. That info is on the link I posted in #3630. Which makes sense. Everything else is self-reported, but that?s a pretty tough one for that.

And you?re not wrong - not only could have been deaths after the shot, there were 6000 deemed not related to shot, 6000 indeterminate. 12,000 deaths reported by health care providers to VAERS, as required by the FDA.

EDIT: Of course the lawyer said that for strategic legal purposes.

Oops. I quoted my post as opposed to editing it. Not the first time.

 

[Spartanmack]

Except in the case of death - it is required by the FDA for the health care provider to report that to VAERS. That info is on the link I posted in #3630. Which makes sense. Everything else is self-reported, but that?s a pretty tough one for that.

And you?re not wrong - not only could have been deaths after the shot, there were 6000 deemed not related to shot, 6000 indeterminate. 12,000 deaths reported by health care providers to VAERS, as required by the FDA.

Even in the case of the gangbanger leaving the clinic and getting mowed down in a drive by, or the little old lady who steps off the curb on 7th Ave and gets plastered by a taxi or a bus - those have to be reported too?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Even in the case of the gangbanger leaving the clinic and getting mowed down in a drive by, or the little old lady who steps off the curb on West End Ave and gets plastered by a bus - those have to be reported too?

I guess.

Those are still counted as Covid deaths; why change anything when it comes to the vacc?

With the gang banger we know it was Vaccine associated because he was walking out the clinic when it happened.

Was the little old lady also in the process of leaving the clinic when she met with her demise?

 

[Spartanmack]

I guess.

Those are still counted as Covid deaths; why change anything when it comes to the vacc?

With the gang banger we know it was Vaccine associated because he was walking out the clinic when it happened.

Was the little old lady also in the process of leaving the clinic when she met with her demise?

maybe, but she could have stopped at Gristedes for some groceries after the jab. According to green's timeline it could be any time within 3 days of the jab. I'm sure not every murdered and vaccinated gang banger got shot leaving the clinic but at the rate those guys are dropping, that guy can't be the only that was taken down inside 3 days.

 

[tinselwolverine]

maybe, but she could have stopped at Gristedes for some groceries after the jab. According to green's timeline it could be any time within 3 days of the jab. I'm sure not every murdered and vaccinated gang banger got shot leaving the clinic but at the rate those guys are dropping, that guy can't be the only that was taken down inside 3 days.

In that case if I were the primary healthcare provider for the old lady, I would report the death to VAERS as required by the FDA and let them make the final determination as to whether or not it should be ruled out as a vaccine associated death, as half the 12,000 reported have been.

 

[tigermud]

https://thecovidworld.com/exclusive...accine-injured-australians-short-documentary/

 

[Spartanmack]

We?ve talked about T detect; certainly a person who has had the Covid could be tested for the T cells to see how enduring they are. Obviously nobody knows for sure how enduring they are or not; some doctors think Covid is rooted in SARS, and that viruses T cells have been very enduring.

I think we?ve talked about that too.

T Detect test came back negative but the report has a rather unclear statement about timing so it doesn't say definitively that I never had it. Presumably based on this result, if I did have it in Dec '19 I probably can't rely on natural immunity at this point. But I'm inclined to believe I never had it. I have a telehealth appt with America's Frontline Doctors to discuss and get their recommendation.

saw some report yesterday that revealed the data the CDC is using to support their assertion that the majority of hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated are from Jan thru June, when the majority of the population was unvaccinated. For some reason, we've stopped reporting hospitalizations by vacc'd and unvacc'd. Odd.