Coronainsanity

[Michchamp]

"Largest study of its kind finds face masks reduce COVID-19":

"A randomized trial of more than 340,000 adults in Bangladesh finds that wearing face masks, particularly surgical face masks, significantly reduces COVID-19 in real-world settings. "​

That's a decent sample size...

"The results show that increased mask-wearing ?? the result of a community-level mask distribution and in-person promotion campaign ?? led to a significant reduction in the percentage of people with COVID-19, based on symptom reporting and SARS-CoV-2 antibody testing. The team tested both cloth and surgical masks and found especially strong evidence that surgical masks are effective in preventing COVID-19. In the study, surgical masks prevented one in three symptomatic infections among community members 60 years and older
...
While prior research has compared the rates of COVID-19 among people who wear masks and those who do not wear masks, the results of these comparisons may be skewed by the fact that people who choose to wear masks may adopt other behaviors that also reduce their risk. This study was designed to overcome this limitation by randomly assigning half of the communities to receive the mask promotion campaign, while the other half did not receive the campaign."
​

Now, cue the geniuses who want to say the fact that masks don't eliminate the risk completely means that "masks don't prevent covid" and therefore are "useless."

More people needed to study probability and statistics in school...

 

[byco42]

Here's a link to the study itself. I expect that you've read it, MC. I looked it over. Very through.

Link

Here's an excerpt of the conclusion.

The proportion of individuals with COVID-like symptoms was 7.62% (N=13,273) in the intervention arm and 8.62% (N=13,893) in the control arm. Blood samples were collected from N=10,952 consenting, symptomatic individuals. Adjusting for baseline covariates, the intervention reduced symptomatic seroprevalence by 9.3% (adjusted prevalence ratio (aPR) = 0.91 [0.82, 1.00]; control prevalence 0.76%; treatment prevalence 0.68%). In villages randomized to surgical masks (n = 200), the relative reduction was 11.2% overall (aPR = 0.89 [0.78, 1.00]) and 34.7% among individuals 60+ (aPR = 0.65 [0.46, 0.85]). No adverse events were
reported.​

Other language of note, presented without comment.

Because the study was powered to detect differences in symptomatic seroprevalence, we cannot distinguish whether masks work by making symptoms less severe (through a reduced viral load at transmission) or by reducing new infections. We selected the WHO case definition of COVID-19 for its sensitivity, though its limited specificity may imply that the impact of masks on symptoms comes partly from non-SARS-CoV-2 respiratory infections. If masks reduce COVID-19 by reducing symptoms (for a given number of infections), they could help ease the morbidity and mortality resulting from a given number of SARS-CoV-2 infections. If masks reduce infections, they may reduce the total number of infections over the long-term by buying more time to increase the fraction of the population vaccinated. At the time of the study, the predominant circulating SARS-CoV-2 strain was B.1.1.7 (alpha). The impacts of the delta variant on the number of infections prevented by a given mask-wearer are uncertain; the population-wide consequences of infections prevented by a given mask-wearer may be larger given a higher reproduction number.​

This is "interesting."

Whether people with respiratory symptoms should generally wear masks to prevent respiratory virus transmission?including for viruses other than SARS-CoV-2?is an important area for future research. Our findings suggest that such a policy may benefit public health.​

 

[tigermud]

The peaceful revolts are close at hand. This really passed off a lot of folks today

https://www.infowars.com/posts/repu...l-vaccine-edicts-absolutely-unconstitutional/

 

[tigermud]

Hang on, what's the reason for the supplements, diet, exercise, and sun in this context?

The highest risk groups are the elderly, overweight and unhealthy. Why can?t you leave the healthy alone and free to make thier own informed decision...fukcing tyrants.make sure you get your twice annual booster

 

[tigermud]

Just getting out of bed has always been a crap shoot?except if you never get out of bed, you?ll die in bed, literally from never getting out of bed.

No one gets out of this place alive.

That?s right death is undefeated. Vaccinated or not

 

[tigermud]

"Largest study of its kind finds face masks reduce COVID-19":

"A randomized trial of more than 340,000 adults in Bangladesh finds that wearing face masks, particularly surgical face masks, significantly reduces COVID-19 in real-world settings. "​

That's a decent sample size...

"The results show that increased mask-wearing ?? the result of a community-level mask distribution and in-person promotion campaign ?? led to a significant reduction in the percentage of people with COVID-19, based on symptom reporting and SARS-CoV-2 antibody testing. The team tested both cloth and surgical masks and found especially strong evidence that surgical masks are effective in preventing COVID-19. In the study, surgical masks prevented one in three symptomatic infections among community members 60 years and older
...
While prior research has compared the rates of COVID-19 among people who wear masks and those who do not wear masks, the results of these comparisons may be skewed by the fact that people who choose to wear masks may adopt other behaviors that also reduce their risk. This study was designed to overcome this limitation by randomly assigning half of the communities to receive the mask promotion campaign, while the other half did not receive the campaign."
​

Now, cue the geniuses who want to say the fact that masks don't eliminate the risk completely means that "masks don't prevent covid" and therefore are "useless."

More people needed to study probability and statistics in school...

Nobody is going to deny your right to wear a mask.

 

[tinselwolverine]

"Largest study of its kind finds face masks reduce COVID-19":

"A randomized trial of more than 340,000 adults in Bangladesh finds that wearing face masks, particularly surgical face masks, significantly reduces COVID-19 in real-world settings. "​

That's a decent sample size...

"The results show that increased mask-wearing ?? the result of a community-level mask distribution and in-person promotion campaign ?? led to a significant reduction in the percentage of people with COVID-19, based on symptom reporting and SARS-CoV-2 antibody testing. The team tested both cloth and surgical masks and found especially strong evidence that surgical masks are effective in preventing COVID-19. In the study, surgical masks prevented one in three symptomatic infections among community members 60 years and older
...
While prior research has compared the rates of COVID-19 among people who wear masks and those who do not wear masks, the results of these comparisons may be skewed by the fact that people who choose to wear masks may adopt other behaviors that also reduce their risk. This study was designed to overcome this limitation by randomly assigning half of the communities to receive the mask promotion campaign, while the other half did not receive the campaign."
​

Now, cue the geniuses who want to say the fact that masks don't eliminate the risk completely means that "masks don't prevent covid" and therefore are "useless."

More people needed to study probability and statistics in school...

What was the methodology used to arrive at this quantification?

Also, the two thirds who wore masks who got infected anyway just about equals the quantity of the CDC study I refer to when I use real data to to demonstrate the uselessness of the useless masks.

If two out of three in the study who wore the masks got the Covid anyway - regardless of the methodology used to collect the ?data? - the statistics indicate that it probably wasn?t any useless mask that prevented any infection in the other one.

?The masks mitigate the spread of Covid? is an affirmative. I don?t see how it?s possible to specifically and logically prove that wearing a mask prevented a case of Covid that didn?t actually happen. If I?m wrong someone show me.

Believing that one out three people who wore the mask and didn?t get the Covid because they wore the mask is like believing in fuckin? voodoo.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Who are these Neanderthal Republitards, and why is Jen Psaki allowing them to publish such blatant misinformation, at this blog Slate?

 

[byco42]

Who are these Neanderthal Republitards, and why is Jen Psaki allowing them to publish such blatant misinformation, at this blog Slate?

"We worry that vaccine policy among supporters of vaccines is increasingly anchored to the irrational views of those who oppose them?by always pursuing the opposite. Exaggerating the risk of the virus in the moment and failing to explore middle ground (sic) positions appear to be the antithesis of the anti-vax movement, which is an extremist effort to refuse vaccination."​

Declining to be vaccinated = extremist. Forcing someone to be vaccinated = reasonable. I'm not forcing people, or even suggesting, to not get vaccinated.

If this writer fails to acknowledge legitimate, proven, documented concerns about the COVID vaccines' efficacy and safety, this writer has failed to place this above statement in context. With intent, I speculate.

 

[tinselwolverine]

"We worry that vaccine policy among supporters of vaccines is increasingly anchored to the irrational views of those who oppose them?by always pursuing the opposite. Exaggerating the risk of the virus in the moment and failing to explore middle ground (sic) positions appear to be the antithesis of the anti-vax movement, which is an extremist effort to refuse vaccination."​

Declining to be vaccinated = extremist. Forcing someone to be vaccinated = reasonable. I'm not forcing people, or even suggesting, to not get vaccinated.

If this writer fails to acknowledge legitimate, proven, documented concerns about the COVID vaccines' efficacy and safety, this writer has failed to place this above statement in context. With intent, I speculate.

They did mention events of myocarditis in young men and women, but more men, who are vaccinated.

So they did say that.

EDIT: What I bolded isn?t consistent with saying refusing - or choosing not to get the vacc - is extremist. Maybe they would re-word that if had it to do over again.

The article is about the general duplicitousness of Faucci throughout the pandemic.

The blog is hardly a right wing echo chamber.

 

[sggatecl]

Discount Texas governor's thinly veiled attempt to grift the system to line the pockets of private insurance companies. Doctors were replaced by a real estate developer and the former 'PPE Czar' who was overpaying for PPE to private companies.

Oklahoma governor removes only physicians from medical board

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) ? Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt removed the only two physicians from the board that oversees the state?s Medicaid agency, just a week after the board voted 7-1 to delay implementing rules on Stitt?s plan to privatize some Medicaid services.

Dr. Jean Hausheer told The Associated Press on Tuesday that both she and Dr. Laura Shamblin, an Oklahoma City pediatrician, were informed on Saturday by a staffer in the governor?s office that they were being removed from the governing board of the Oklahoma Health Care Authority.

Hausheer, an ophthalmologist from Lawton, said neither she nor Shamblin were told why they were being removed, and Stitt spokeswoman Carly Atchison didn?t immediately respond to questions about his decision.

?The governor has my cellphone number ... it is kind of odd that he didn?t contact me himself,? Hausheer said. ?I?m going to presume it was because of our last board meeting.?

Hausheer and Shamblin were among seven members of the board who voted last week to delay implementing rules on Stitt?s plan to outsource case management for some Medicaid recipients to private insurance companies. Stitt?s managed care proposal has faced bipartisan opposition in the Legislature and was ruled unconstitutional in June by the Oklahoma Supreme Court.

The Health Care Authority said in a statement that Stitt was replacing Hausheer and Shamblin with Susan Dell?Osso and Gino DeMarco.

Stitt?s decision was sharply criticized by Dr. George Monks, immediate past president of the Oklahoma State Medical Association.

?The Health Care Authority?s job is to oversee more than $2 billion taxpayer dollars and serve Oklahoma?s most vulnerable citizens, not rubber-stamp a governor?s political agenda,? Monks said in a statement. ?Today, the governor demonstrated the politics are vastly more important than the health of Oklahomans as he eliminated two of the three female members and the only physicians from the OHCA Board of Directors.?

 

[Michchamp]

Discount Texas governor's thinly veiled attempt to grift the system to line the pockets of private insurance companies. Doctors were replaced by a real estate developer and the former 'PPE Czar' who was overpaying for PPE to private companies.

Oklahoma governor removes only physicians from medical board

*dumb guy voice*

Buh privatizing things gets rid of government waste and red tape

 

[tigermud]

Heart inflammation cases, known as myocarditis, have exploded across the Western World in teenagers following the Food and Drug Administration?s approval of the Pfizer injection.

The latest example comes from a U.S. student athlete named Ron Stallings, who took to Instagram on Saturday from the hospital to warn users about the potential risks associated with taking the COVID shot.

I?m in the hospital right now with heart complications from the COVID-19 vaccine. I want to inform as many people as I can about the risks from taking the vaccine that I wish someone would have told me,? Stallings said.

I?m a Division 1 student athlete with no prior health issues and I got the second COVID shot Tuesday, and within four days I have been diagnosed with myocarditis and was told that I probably won?t be able to play my senior season now.?

?It isn?t right for people to be forded to take the vaccine because there are actual side effects like this that could happen to you, and the NCAA should not mandate student athletes to get the vaccine because of what could happen to so many fellow student athletes? health issues which has happened to me,? Stallings continued.

Stallings went on to say that he?s spoken to other student athletes who contracted heart issues as a result of taking the vaccine.

?I?ve spoken with some other student athletes that have also had to have either heart surgery or have had heart issues from this and it?s very scary stuff. And a lot of people in our age group apparently are at higher risk from heart issues from the vaccine and it really does need to be talked about,? he said.

Hundreds of cases of myocarditis have been documented in teens not just in America but in Canada and Europe as well.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/hear...odes-across-us-after-fda-approves-injections/

 

[sggatecl]

Heart inflammation cases, known as myocarditis, have exploded across the Western World in teenagers following the Food and Drug Administration?s approval of the Pfizer injection.

39 to 47 cases of myocarditis for every million second doses of vaccine.

I?m in the hospital right now with heart complications from the COVID-19 vaccine. I want to inform as many people as I can about the risks from taking the vaccine that I wish someone would have told me,? Stallings said.

Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis who received care responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly.

 

[byco42]

This ratio has a lot of decimal places.

Link

 

[tomdalton22]

Heart inflammation cases, known as myocarditis, have exploded across the Western World in teenagers following the Food and Drug Administration?s approval of the Pfizer injection.

The latest example comes from a U.S. student athlete named Ron Stallings, who took to Instagram on Saturday from the hospital to warn users about the potential risks associated with taking the COVID shot.

I?m in the hospital right now with heart complications from the COVID-19 vaccine. I want to inform as many people as I can about the risks from taking the vaccine that I wish someone would have told me,? Stallings said.

I?m a Division 1 student athlete with no prior health issues and I got the second COVID shot Tuesday, and within four days I have been diagnosed with myocarditis and was told that I probably won?t be able to play my senior season now.?

?It isn?t right for people to be forded to take the vaccine because there are actual side effects like this that could happen to you, and the NCAA should not mandate student athletes to get the vaccine because of what could happen to so many fellow student athletes? health issues which has happened to me,? Stallings continued.

Stallings went on to say that he?s spoken to other student athletes who contracted heart issues as a result of taking the vaccine.

?I?ve spoken with some other student athletes that have also had to have either heart surgery or have had heart issues from this and it?s very scary stuff. And a lot of people in our age group apparently are at higher risk from heart issues from the vaccine and it really does need to be talked about,? he said.

Hundreds of cases of myocarditis have been documented in teens not just in America but in Canada and Europe as well.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/hear...odes-across-us-after-fda-approves-injections/

I thought that myocarditis was a side effect from getting COVID as well. Since he is a healthy young adult, maybe he had COVID in the past and didn't show any signs or symptoms at the time and now has myocarditis??

So he can't play his senior season...BOO HOO!!! My mother in law had to spend her anniversary alone because her husband died from COVID, about a week before vaccines were available to him. I'll bet he would rather be sitting in a hospital bed with a very treatable illness vs. 6' under.

 

[Spartanmack]

I thought that myocarditis was a side effect from getting COVID as well. Since he is a healthy young adult, maybe he had COVID in the past and didn't show any signs or symptoms at the time and now has myocarditis??

So he can't play his senior season...BOO HOO!!! My mother in law had to spend her anniversary alone because her husband died from COVID, about a week before vaccines were available to him. I'll bet he would rather be sitting in a hospital bed with a very treatable illness vs. 6' under.

Of course he would but I bet a kid would rather be playing his senior season than sitting out because he was forced to take a vaccine he probably wouldn't have taken. Maybe this kid did have COVID and was completely fine and instead of getting a t-cell test for natural immunity, he was given a vaccine he didn't need that gave him this serious medical condition as a side effect. Speaking out against coercion that created significant medical issues is legitimate and doesn't in any way diminish the deaths of anyone else.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm sure he was given a choice. Get the shot and have a chance to play on the team or you are free to not take the shot but you are off the team. Maybe not the best choices but he still had a choice.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm sure he was given a choice. Get the shot and have a chance to play on the team or you are free to not take the shot but you are off the team. Maybe not the best choices but he still had a choice.

possibly but likely not - many schools have vaccine mandates for all students. And that's not much of a choice for a person in that position.

 

[tomdalton22]

possibly but likely not - many schools have vaccine mandates for all students. And that's not much of a choice for a person in that position.

I could be wrong, but I don't think many public high schools have vaccine mandates for their students. At least, I haven't heard of many.