Coronainsanity

[sggatecl]

My wife and I both got Ivermectin scripts filled to have in case of infection but as I understand it, where we live it's very difficult to get monoclonal antibody treatments - have to be at high risk of getting seriously ill and it's not clear that being unvaxxed is considered in the high risk group, which IMO, kinda goes against their argument for getting vaccinated.

I think I might be misunderstanding you so just wanted to clarify, are you saying that because you're not vaccinated you should be considered high risk? It's late, if that's not even close I'm not completely stupid, I blame being tired.

 

[Gulo Blue]

crazy.

My friend who had it several months ago said the loss of taste was unmistakable, and really surprised him. like the only way he knew what food was in his mouth was by sight.

makes you wonder what the mechanism for that happening is, and what other long term effects there could be.

I've read a couple things. The scary one is that people that die of covid have brain damage in the regions of the brain where smell and taste processing happen. I guess the main theory involves the destruction of epithelial cells.

And long term, we could have big problems. I guess there was a wave of Parkinson's decades after the Spanish Flu.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I've read a couple things. The scary one is that people that die of covid have brain damage in the regions of the brain where smell and taste processing happen. I guess the main theory involves the destruction of epithelial cells.

And long term, we could have big problems. I guess there was a wave of Parkinson's decades after the Spanish Flu.

It?s not all that bad.

Yeah, they?re dead - that isn?t good - but they?re not likely to get fat binge eating because food smells and taste so good.

 

[tigermud]

Been away for a few days due to a death in the family (not COVID) so I'm just catching up. Sorry to hear you're not well Mud, I hope you're feeling better soon. Sounds like you're making progress. Were you able to get any of the early treatments (monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, etc) or have you been making progress without them?

My wife and I both got Ivermectin scripts filled to have in case of infection but as I understand it, where we live it's very difficult to get monoclonal antibody treatments - have to be at high risk of getting seriously ill and it's not clear that being unvaxxed is considered in the high risk group, which IMO, kinda goes against their argument for getting vaccinated.

No early treatments other than what we already do daily, zinc, vitamin c and d, turmeric and quinine a precursor to hydroxy..lots of tangy tangerine 90 essentials dr joseph wallach product mixed with beat root juice product to help keep the blood vessels oxygenated. Lots of rest and sleep, didn?t eat much first three days starve it out. Fruits, vegetables and soups only once did start eating again

 

[tigermud]

Sorry to hear that. I'll be praying for you. I haven't read much about it, but I've heard some people are doing some kind of taste training to reboot their sense of taste.

I read it can take weeks before it will return.

 

[tigermud]

crazy.

My friend who had it several months ago said the loss of taste was unmistakable, and really surprised him. like the only way he knew what food was in his mouth was by sight.

makes you wonder what the mechanism for that happening is, and what other long term effects there could be.

How is your friends wife and daughter doing?

 

[Spartanmack]

I think I might be misunderstanding you so just wanted to clarify, are you saying that because you're not vaccinated you should be considered high risk? It's late, if that's not even close I'm not completely stupid, I blame being tired.

No, I?m saying based on the arguments people make for why I have to get vaccinated they should consider me high risk of getting sick if infected. Otherwise their whole argument for demanding I get vaccinated or lose my job and be shunned from society kinda falls apart - and these are the same people who are rationing and restricting access to early treatment. I believe I should have the option to choose between the untested vaccine and early treatment therapies.

 

[Spartanmack]

No early treatments other than what we already do daily, zinc, vitamin c and d, turmeric and quinine a precursor to hydroxy..lots of tangy tangerine 90 essentials dr joseph wallach product mixed with beat root juice product to help keep the blood vessels oxygenated. Lots of rest and sleep, didn?t eat much first three days starve it out. Fruits, vegetables and soups only once did start eating again

Praying for a full and speedy recovery for both of you. We do the daily C, D, zinc and we also do a nasal spray that we added iodine to - the nasal spray is 2x per day plus after anytime we're indoors with a crowd (grocery store, social gatherings, poker night, etc). So far, so good.

 

[byco42]

When I had a respiratory infection, my SIL, who was an RT, put me on a nebulizer with a solution of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water. It was highly effective in clearing up the cough and the mucus I was expressing. That?s the base explanation; there?s more to it than that.

 

[Michchamp]

How is your friends wife and daughter doing?

not sure. only his wife had symptoms. the loss of taste and smell happened rapidly after the positive test.

my friend in Chicago who had it (age 43) and recovered said the same thing: woke up
feeling fine, by the late afternoon couldn't taste anything and felt awful. he had received one shot a few days before getting COVID, but not the second.

He endured a week of being bed-ridden with horrible headaches, and had trouble breathing for weeks after that. He likely suffered long term damage to his lungs, possibly even permanent (don't know yet). His wife (fully vaccinated) never got sick.

my uncle (65) and my cousin (35) both got it from work. My cousin described it as a bad cold; my uncle was sick as a dog for several weeks, but recovered.

My aunt (severely immuno-compromised; just survived colon cancer, chemotherapy, had her spleen, and part of her intestine removed) never got it. thank fortune. My cousin's wife tested positive but never had symptoms. all 4 were fully vaccinated & lived in the Lansing area.

I think there's something to be said for the amount of exposure; my uncle and cousin were both at work, in meetings, closed spaces, no windows, no masks, and had been downplaying the threat COVID posed for this entire time. So it's safe to assume they were NOT being cautious even though they were fully vaccinated. They probably received a massive infectious dose of the virus. Other people got it and maybe tested positive, but not enough to overwhelm their immune system or the protection afforded by the vaccine.

again, I don't think any of this is zero-sum. You don't either get it or not, or get it and live or die. You can be prudent and still get it from bad luck, but you probably won't get as sick. And you can survive it and suffer serious damage that leaves you weaker and more susceptible to reinfection or other harms... what doesn't kill you doesn't make you stronger.

If I were you, I would take care of myself (plenty of sleep, fresh fruit, no over-exertion) until I was fully in the clear.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I think there's something to be said for the amount of exposure
... ...
You don't either get it or not, or get it and live or die. You can be prudent and still get it from bad luck, but you probably won't get as sick. And you can survive it and suffer serious damage that leaves you weaker and more susceptible to reinfection or other harms... what doesn't kill you doesn't make you stronger.

This is my understanding too.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I read it can take weeks before it will return.

I know somebody that's still waiting after 6 months. Gets a faint sense of taste when they eat something that quickly fades and takes hours to reset.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I?m sitting in a pharmacy waiting to get my J&J booster right now.

 

[tigermud]

Back and forth, the shortness of breath is really dragging on. Probably a good thing I quite smoking 10 years ago else might not be hanging in there still

 

[Gulo Blue]

Back and forth, the shortness of breath is really dragging on. Probably a good thing I quite smoking 10 years ago else might not be hanging in there still

Well, it's not a study, but here's what snopes thinks about home strategies for covid...not exactly your situation, but maybe something in there could be useful:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/12/29/fight-covid-home/

 

[tigermud]

Well, it's not a study, but here's what snopes thinks about home strategies for covid...not exactly your situation, but maybe something in there could be useful:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/12/29/fight-covid-home/

That?s bizarre

 

[sggatecl]

I?m sitting in a pharmacy waiting to get my J&J booster right now.

I got my Pfizer booster on Friday. Day after was similiar to how I felt after dose 2, only less severe. I was raking leaves by Saturday evening.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I got my Pfizer booster on Friday. Day after was similiar to how I felt after dose 2, only less severe. I was raking leaves by Saturday evening.

I went straight from the shot to the boxing gym.

A little bit of pain at the point where I took the shot was it.

 

[tigermud]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/osha-...utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport

The Labor Department?s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) says it has suspended the implementation and enforcement of the Biden administration?s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for private businesses.

The announcement came shortly after a U.S. appeals court rejected a challenge by the Biden administration on Nov. 12 and reaffirmed its decision to put on hold OSHA?s mandate, which requires that businesses with 100 employees or more ensure that workers either be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Jan. 4, 2022, or be tested weekly and wear a mask.

The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans stated in an opinion that OSHA?s mandate is ?staggeringly overbroad,? and ordered it to ?take no steps to implement or enforce the Mandate until further court order.?

The court had previously issued a temporary halt to the mandate on Nov. 6, pending litigation.

The Labor Department affirmed in a statement in recognition of the court?s ruling: ?The court ordered that OSHA ?take no steps to implement or enforce? the ETS ?until further court order.? While OSHA remains confident in its authority to protect workers in emergencies, OSHA has suspended activities related to the implementation and enforcement of the ETS pending future developments in the litigation.?

 

[tigermud]

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-now-worst-covid-19-090019088.html

Michigan is now worst COVID-19 hot spot in nation; hospitals pushed to capacity