Coronainsanity

[mhughes0021]

I'm not sure you understand what a death rate is. The higher number of people infected doesn't drive the death rate down. The death rate is lowered only by a lower percentage of people dying when they get the disease. Now, you could argue that getting vaccinated will drive the death rate down. Or you could argue that the variant is less deadly. But saying that more infections drives the death rate down just isn't accurate.

isnt death rate equal to:

deaths/# of infections

and number of infections increasing between 10x-20x would mean the death rate would drastically be impacted (lowered). I could be way off...im assuming thats how they calculate death rate.

 

[tigermud]

Im having a hard time understanding how Omicron is "mild" and how this "is over" when the hospitals are flooded. Rising cases should have nothing to do with it if all the cases are mild. We should be able to be at 2 million cases a day and 0 hospitalizations if cases were mild.

Think of it as if it was you....if i have a cold. I stay at home and drink some powerade and blow my nose into tissues for 2 days. What i dont do is get my ass up and go to the hospital. If people are doing that id say its probably pretty serious.

So...with that said. How can both things be true. How can Omicron be mild...and hospitals be seeing record numbers?

Do some research hospitals are reported to be flooded due to staffing shortages largely due to stupid medical tyranny vax mandates + many are there for other reasons and happen to also be testing positive with little to no symptoms.

 

[tigermud]

The problem with this....is simple math. When you have the infectious rate being as high as it is....most say 10x more infectious than delta. Some have said 3x more infectious than the measles...which is the highes known infectious virus known to man. Then ofcourse that will drive the death rate to extremely low numbers...especially when a high %age of people at this point have done the right thing and got vaxed/boosted. That says nothing about how dangerous it is...especially when were talking about increased number of cases among children.

The problem is most of the fucking idiots in this country didnt pass 3rd grade math.

the problem is most of the fucking idiots in this country believe everything the lie media tells you, we are now testing children up the wazoo through the school came into contact polices. the vast majority don't even know they have it. Onicorn is much more mild than was Delta!

#fucking period!

 

[Michchamp]

I'm not sure you understand what a death rate is. The higher number of people infected doesn't drive the death rate down. The death rate is lowered only by a lower percentage of people dying when they get the disease. Now, you could argue that getting vaccinated will drive the death rate down. Or you could argue that the variant is less deadly. But saying that more infections drives the death rate down just isn't accurate.

Right. Although it's not "less deadly" if we mean "how many will die," if it has a lower rate, but infects (say) ten times as many people, as it appears to be doing.

I just don't understand why we should be happy Omicron has a lower fatality rate (if that's even true), if the same number of people end up dying from it because it spreads 10 times as rapidly.

There are a number of news stories about how we just set the highest number of hospitalizations with covid.

I hesitate to post them because idiots are going to jump all over the "with covid/for covid distinction," like it matters here... the point being the hospitals are getting filled up from SOMETHING, and if not the highly infectious COVID-19 virus, then it combined with something else, and if/when people can't get medical treatment because the hospitals are full, more people will start to die of preventable diseases/injuries, and that's a bad thing we should try to prevent.

But then I remember a lot of Americans don't care if hundreds of thousands die, just as long as they can get their shit food from Applebee's without wearing a mask, or needing to go get an "OUCHIE" in the arm at Walgreens.

 

[tigermud]

Would have thought the SC would have made a decision by now or not if America lives or falls under legal tyrannical authoritarian rule. Not sure what the hell is taking them so long.

 

[tigermud]

The Holy See is once again promoting Big Pharma?s experimental shot to his legions of followers in the Catholic Church, this time telling them that getting an mRNA jab is a ?moral obligation.?

Addressing over 180 countries during a speech at the Vatican Monday, Pope Francis, 85, told Catholics they were obligated to take the so-called vaccines as a duty to their fellow man.

God forgive me but I disagree with the Pope

 

[tigermud]

BigPhrama making it up as they go, nation of sheep

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla admitted that up to two doses of his company?s experimental mRNA vaccine aren?t very effective against Covid-19, if at all.

The chairman of the pharmaceutical company made the astonishing admission Monday during an interview with Yahoo Finance, where he suggested two doses, plus an additional booster dose, were needed to have some semblance of protection ? however, not against infection.


?Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any,? Bourla said when asked about developing an omicron variant-specific booster.

?Three doses with a booster offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths,? Bourla added.

However, ?Less protection against infection,? the CEO admitted.

The new admissions are a complete 180? from Bourla?s previous statements last year, which touted the first and second vaccine doses as ?100% effective.?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMbKyDq9_w

 

[tomdalton22]

the problem is most of the fucking idiots in this country believe everything the lie media tells you, we are now testing children up the wazoo through the school came into contact polices. the vast majority don't even know they have it. Onicorn is much more mild than was Delta!

#fucking period!

yes...there are too many fucking idiots that believe everything the media tells them. These idiots are everywhere. They listen to NBC, CBS, FOX, Info Wars

 

[tigermud]

yes...there are too many fucking idiots that believe everything the media tells them. These idiots are everywhere. They listen to NBC, CBS, FOX, Info Wars

And Coast to Coast AM?, would you lump them in that list to like Thumb did?

I keep it turned to Fox Business during the day.

 

[tomdalton22]

And Coast to Coast AM?, would you lump them in that list to like Thumb did?

I keep it turned to Fox Business during the day.

never heard of it

 

[Spartanmack]

yes...there are too many fucking idiots that believe everything the media tells them. These idiots are everywhere. They listen to NBC, CBS, FOX, Info Wars

the solution is simple - don't watch or listen to any of those sources. Cut he cord. Find subject matter experts like doctors and epidemiologists, particularly ones that don't have a political agenda and aren't linked to big pharma and make your own informed decisions.

 

[mhughes0021]

Right. Although it's not "less deadly" if we mean "how many will die," if it has a lower rate, but infects (say) ten times as many people, as it appears to be doing.

I just don't understand why we should be happy Omicron has a lower fatality rate (if that's even true), if the same number of people end up dying from it because it spreads 10 times as rapidly.

There are a number of news stories about how we just set the highest number of hospitalizations with covid.

I hesitate to post them because idiots are going to jump all over the "with covid/for covid distinction," like it matters here... the point being the hospitals are getting filled up from SOMETHING, and if not the highly infectious COVID-19 virus, then it combined with something else, and if/when people can't get medical treatment because the hospitals are full, more people will start to die of preventable diseases/injuries, and that's a bad thing we should try to prevent.

But then I remember a lot of Americans don't care if hundreds of thousands die, just as long as they can get their shit food from Applebee's without wearing a mask, or needing to go get an "OUCHIE" in the arm at Walgreens.

finally someone that understands math lol!

Luckily previous hot spots show Omicron dies out faster...which hopefully means we dont see an extended period of deaths. But his months death toll will be bad....even though the stupid death %age people are trying to use will be low...cause they are dumb.

future state is all of these infections will cause another new mutation...and on and on we go cause people were so fucking dumb in wave 1 when we could have killed this virus and decided to cry about it instead.

 

[tomdalton22]

future state is all of these infections will cause another new mutation...and on and on we go cause people were so fucking dumb in wave 1 when we could have killed this virus and decided to cry about it instead.

how were we going to kill it?

 

[Spartanmack]

finally someone that understands math lol!

Luckily previous hot spots show Omicron dies out faster...which hopefully means we dont see an extended period of deaths. But his months death toll will be bad....even though the stupid death %age people are trying to use will be low...cause they are dumb.

future state is all of these infections will cause another new mutation...and on and on we go cause people were so fucking dumb in wave 1 when we could have killed this virus and decided to cry about it instead.

what did we not do that would have killed it in round 1?

 

[mhughes0021]

how were we going to kill it?

when you dont allow it to spread....it dies. Instead we flew a bunch of amercians from Wuhan into Los Angeles lmao. Not a barren desert. Fucking Los Angeles.

Didnt test, didnt wear masks, didnt vaccinate until much much later.

But what doesnt kill you makes you stronger, right? Except ofcourse for the millions that did die and all the people with serious health conditions they have to live with after covid.

 

[mhughes0021]

what did we not do that would have killed it in round 1?

Is this a sick joke? We didnt do ANYTHING we needed to do. People STILL dont want to do anything except cry and bitch like little babies.

Please explain all we did to nip this in the bud lmao....this should be grand. Cant wait until you say the fucking lockdown 3 months after the fact...lmao...like that was going to do anything.

 

[tomdalton22]

when you dont allow it to spread....it dies. Instead we flew a bunch of amercians from Wuhan into Los Angeles lmao. Not a barren desert. Fucking Los Angeles.

Didnt test, didnt wear masks, didnt vaccinate until much much later.

But what doesnt kill you makes you stronger, right? Except ofcourse for the millions that did die and all the people with serious health conditions they have to live with after covid.

I think you are delusional if you think there could have been something done to stop the spread.

Also

first country to vaccinate was the UK...12/2/2020
we started to vaccinate on 12/17/2020

do you think that made a difference?

 

[Michchamp]

- complete Lockdown for 2 weeks (minimum)
- 14 day quarantine for all international arrivals
- Test and trace; anyone positive and anyone in contact with a positive isolates for 2 weeks
- all this actually enforced, with jail time if necessary
- direct government aid to hourly employees that lose actual work due to quarantine

- masks in public spaces
- indoor air quality regulations (paid for with government aid for small businesses) for all public spaces; tax breaks or whatever else

China did well. Hate china and want to claim they're lying about their numbers? Fine... Look at Japan or almost any other East Asian country. All managed this well. They've minimized the damage to their countries and didn't face that bullshit "economy or public health" choice our psychopathic leaders forced on us.

 

[Michchamp]

We never really locked down; I think the numbers I saw at the time were like 50% at best of things were closed.

We never did 14 day quarantines. We never tested and traced... we did masks for a couple months. Less than that in a lot of places.

No indoor air regulations.

We're a shithole country run by complete psychopaths. Full of awful human beings. Like fully half of all Americans are worthless trash, and more or less 90%-95% of all our corporate and political leaders are rotten human beings

It's probably always been this way, just becoming more apparent now.

 

[tigermud]

Is this a sick joke? We didnt do ANYTHING we needed to do. People STILL dont want to do anything except cry and bitch like little babies.

Please explain all we did to nip this in the bud lmao....this should be grand. Cant wait until you say the fucking lockdown 3 months after the fact...lmao...like that was going to do anything.

The joke is you thinking we can actually stop a virus from spreading. Viruses are going to do what they do. Oh and did you know Viruses tend to mutate into weaker and weaker variants as their goal is not to kill it's host, rather to co-exist with it.