Coronainsanity

[tinselwolverine]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZ2jO-b8tE

 

[Michchamp]

Like half of GOP leadership tested positive... if the parties were flipped, all the fundy Christians would be claiming this was divine retribution or some bullshit like that.

 

[Thumb]

As promised:

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-covid-diagnosis-october/

 

[Michchamp]

people keep alleging there is some sort of plot here or Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess.

I think Trump is just the same dumbfuck he always was and it finally caught up with him.

When Herman Cain got it and died, all these scumbags should've been on notice. I have no sympathy for any of them. Fuck em.

 

[tinselwolverine]

As promised:

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/trump-covid-diagnosis-october/

The Daily Dot.

Okay.

So some randos predicted this on Twitter.

Good for them.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Chris Christie tests positive.

Now, there’s an example of someone who should’ve been more cautious.

 

[Michchamp]

Senator Mike Lee might've infected other members of the senate judiciary committee... Link:

Those in attendance included Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), Chris Coons (D-Del.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.)​

Oh man, we're better off withOUT most of those people, including about half of the Democrats on the committee. Like the worst of the worst of the GOP senate is on it too.

 

[Michchamp]

Study: Trump single-handedly responsible for 37% of the world's COVID-19 misinformation:

Researchers at Cornell University who analyzed 38 million articles about the pandemic in English-language media around the world found that mentions of Trump made up nearly 38 percent of the overall ?misinformation conversation,? making the president the largest single source of falsehoods about the pandemic. Sarah Evanega, the study?s lead author, told The New York Times that the work proves Trump?s loose lips have ?real-world dire health implications.?​

 

[tinselwolverine]

Study: Trump single-handedly responsible for 37% of the world's COVID-19 misinformation:

Researchers at Cornell University who analyzed 38 million articles about the pandemic in English-language media around the world found that mentions of Trump made up nearly 38 percent of the overall ?misinformation conversation,? making the president the largest single source of falsehoods about the pandemic. Sarah Evanega, the study?s lead author, told The New York Times that the work proves Trump?s loose lips have ?real-world dire health implications.?​

Who is the arbiter of what is or isn?t misinformation?

Let?s start with the obvious Hydroxychloroquine. While Trump?s own guy Fauci ? whom Trump should have fired months ago and who has not actually treated a patient in decades ? has stated that Hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the Covid, numerous practicing Physicians claim that THAT is in fact misinformation-they claim they have used the medication affectively WHEN used in a combination of zinc and often azithromycin. They claim that the medication acts as a conduit ? there?s a medical term for it I forget - to get the zinc and the anabiotic into the cells.


I?ve never heard a doctor claim to have used it as part of the treatment say they use it without zinc.


Another thing-some were claiming that hydroxychloroquine was a very dangerous medication, and at the same time a number of those same people were claiming that the new run on hydroxychloroquine was taking it away from people who had been safely and effectively using it for the traditional uses like for malaria and lupus.

So are they saying that hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective except when you?re using it for the treatment of Covid, and in that case it becomes lethal?

Now I am not going to let Kathleen McInerney be my arbiter of what is and isn?t misinformation, but I sure as shit ain?t gonna let the Guardian be that neither.

 

[mhughes0021]

If it's just a flu with .00000001 chance of death then why is our president in the hospital getting experimental treatments? What a weak example of a leader.

 

[Michchamp]

... I sure as shit ain?t gonna let the Guardian be that neither.

 

[tinselwolverine]

In three weeks...Apologies for interjecting sports onto the politics board.

 

[TheVictors]

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[tinselwolverine]

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Right.

Except he didn?t.

Back in the early spring, I heard Fauci in this very address projecting above two million deaths.

That seems to have been edited out, but someone seems to have fucked up and not edited out Trump?s repeat of Fauci?s projections.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=496t9beXAEo

 

[Gulo Blue]

Right.

Except he didn’t.

Back in the early spring, I heard Fauci in this very address projecting above two million deaths.

That seems to have been edited out, but someone seems to have fucked up and not edited out Trump’s repeat of Fauci’s projections.

He probably did say that (before saying something else once he had better information.) The first paper out of London said there would be 2 million deaths if everybody went about their business and just let the virus run its course. In addition to caveats about the initial data from China not matching conditions elsewhere, they said they didn't believe that was likely, because when people started dying, people would change their behavior. But the math model was simple and it illustrated how serious the disease was. Whatever Fauci said, did he get the caveats right or wrong and were those caveats edited out? Did Trump quote him correctly?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Who is the arbiter of what is or isn?t misinformation?

"Researchers at Cornell University"


Without looking up the paper, I'll guess at what it might have been. They probably traced the origins of several incorrect statements going around the internet at a time when they were know to be wrong and then did a search on social media to find variants of those statements. Hopefully, they included a category for things that were not easily classified.

 

[tinselwolverine]

He probably did say that (before saying something else once he had better information.) The first paper out of London said there would be 2 million deaths if everybody went about their business and just let the virus run its course. In addition to caveats about the initial data from China not matching conditions elsewhere, they said they didn't believe that was likely, because when people started dying, people would change their behavior. But the math model was simple and it illustrated how serious the disease was. Whatever Fauci said, did he get the caveats right or wrong and were those caveats edited out? Did Trump quote him correctly?

He said things were going to be much worse.

By that time, the governors of New York and New Jersey had ostensibly locked down old vulnerable people who didn’t have the Covid in nursing homes with Covid infected for the purposes of political correctness.

The results probably fucked up Faucis models.

Our political leaders of both parties, starting with Trump - whose biggest fuckup was not firing Fauci months ago - fucked this up pretty bad.

Our counting of both deaths and cases has been a clown show.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XCQxOLE6o5s

Here is yet additional bull crap from the CDC about the Covid shitshow.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tAiOVMYFY

 

[Gulo Blue]

He said things were going to be much worse.

By that time, the governors of New York and New Jersey had ostensibly locked down old vulnerable people who didn?t have the Covid in nursing homes with Covid infected for the purposes of political correctness.

The results probably fucked up Faucis models.

Our political leaders of both parties, starting with Trump - whose biggest fuckup was not firing Fauci months ago - fucked this up pretty bad.

Our counting of both deaths and cases has been a clown show.

I don't follow what you are getting at. We did take some action. Not as quickly as we should have, but we did change our behavior. Even with all the locking down we did, a lot of people died and are still dying.



If every single death in New York was caused by the bad decisions with nursing homes, that would account for 15%, which isn't nothing and deserves scrutiny and repercussions, but it doesn't change the national narrative.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I don't follow what you are getting at. We did take some action. Not as quickly as we should have, but we did change our behavior. Even with all the locking down we did, a lot of people died and are still dying.

If every single death in New York was caused by the bad decisions with nursing homes, that would account for 15%, which isn't nothing and deserves scrutiny and repercussions, but it doesn't change the national narrative.

We did a shit job separating the vulnerable from the very unlikely to be vulnerable.

We did a shit job protecting the vulnerable.

By protecting the very unlikely to be vulnerable from the boogeyman, we fucked up our economy.

Two months into the coronainsanity, science indicated that the danger of the pandemic for much of the population had been vastly over calculated, we knew the risk factors and we could have and should have pivoted to a more reasonable strategy.

Some states have revised their Covid death count down.

I think the death counts and case counts are profoundly exaggerated.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Fauci had moved on to the IHME model by the end of March. Maybe even in April.



In the following, the date range keeps changing, so the Actual number covers different periods of time. It looks like most predictions are for the next 4 months.



3/26-Predction: 81,000, Actual:147,672

http://www.healthdata.org/news-rele...d-be-overwhelmed-second-week-april-demand-icu

4/13-Predeiction 68,841, Actual: 156,920

4/17-Prediction: 60,308, Actual: 156,920
http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/ihme-hold-media-briefing-4-pm-eastern-today-details-below
5/4-Prediction: 135,000, Actual: 156,920
http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/new-ihme-forecast-projects-nearly-135000-covid-19-deaths-us

5/12-Prediction 147,000, Actual: 156,920
http://www.healthdata.org/news-rele...recasts-select-nations-latin-america-asia-and