Days of our Impeachment

[Michchamp]

I was really surprised he brought him on. Ran on a campaign of 'get the troops out' and Bolton is a known war monger. Not surprised he didn't last.

I remember when he got kicked out of the Bush Administration... at the time I couldn't believe it was possible for someone to be too "pro war" for the American government, but I guess he's not only pro war, but also a dick about it when everyone doesn't join him (to send other peoples' kids off to fight in his war).

I imagine that rubs all the generals the wrong way, when you consider Bolton was a draft dodger during the days he was eligible to serve, and proud of it.

 

[tigermud]

Do you have a link to that Biden video Cruz is talking about? I don't believe I've seen it yet. I would like to see a nice dagger to his campaign.

Also, that reporter is really, really fucking bad at his job. I'm glad Cruz made him look like the partisan douche he is. I hate reporters that interrupt. Fuck that guy.

*edit* Oh, and Cruz (and many GOP's) talking point that the House didn't do their job well enough is so tired. First because they tried to get Bolton back in November but he declined directives from the White House after he left his post. So when Trump and Cruz mention it, remember that it's bullshit. And Bolton wasn't the only one, just the most relevant.

And also because the House's job is to decide if it worth investigating, like a Grand Jury. McConnell has beat home this idea that the Senate's only job is to vote guilty or not guilty and it's flat out wrong. You don't show your whole hand/investigation in a Grand Jury proceeding. Denying any and all witnesses and testimonies because 'it's not necessary, they have no case' is the most ridiculous thing in this whole circus. You would never see that in an actual court proceeding.

This one?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

 

[tigermud]

I was really surprised he brought him on. Ran on a campaign of 'get the troops out' and Bolton is a known war monger. Not surprised he didn't last.

Tucker is right again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q61DOWIZeUA

 

[tigermud]

Trump had every reason and right in the world in inquire with the new Ukrainian president about Corruption and Biden, Biden put it right there on the table all by himself FFS, He wants to get to the bottom of the coup attempt and following the rabbit holes where ever they go.

JOE BIDEN, 23 JANUARY 2018: And that is I?m desperately concerned about the backsliding on the part of Kiev in terms of corruption. They made?I mean, I?ll give you one concrete example. I was?not I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got. I got all the good ones. And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our leaders to?convincing that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn?t.

So they said they had?they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I?m not going to?or, we?re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You?re not the president. The president said?I said, call him.

(Laughter.)

I said, I?m telling you, you?re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you?re not getting the billion. I?m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I?m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you?re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Well, there?s still?so they made some genuine substantial changes institutionally and with people. But one of the three institutions, there?s now some backsliding.

 

[Michchamp]

I heard noise coming out of the "media swamp" that now "they" suspect Ukraine also
meddled in our election. interesting timing there, as Ukraine has basically told us to butt out and is negotiating a settlement with Russia.

That means we won't be able to sell the Ukrainians bombs and missiles and stuff, which makes our government sad.

 

[Spartanmack]

Pretty much, but a few Dems did vote to impeach Clinton, not one single Republican did so with Trump, with 2 abstaining so as not to have a 'nay' vote on their record.

That?s because the case against Clinton was rock solid and the case against Trump is complete garbage. It says more about Dem partisanship and irrational anti-Trumpism than it does about Republicans.

 

[Spartanmack]

But really though, fuck him for sitting on this so he could sell some books.

Unless this is an elaborate ploy set up by the GOP where they bring him in, get the Dems hopes up, and Bolton denies it all and blames the liberal media for spreading false info. Then I say well played GOP.

It?s not clear that it?s in his book. It?s just as likely the case that the NYT is throwing a Hail Mary to try to get him impeached on more lies. There were no direct quotes from the book in the article.

 

[tigermud]

I hope Bolton and Rudy testify. Let them two go at it and see where the chips fall.

 

[Spartanmack]

I hope they finally grow a pair and investigate the Bidens. Did anyone listen to NPR yesterday? The timeline of events around hunter, Burisma and Joe is pretty damning. But we?re only supposed to care about the bad orange man.

 

[tigermud]

yup that pretty much says it all about Bolton, Tucker is so right about him.

But Mr. Trump?s lack of action after Iranian aggression against the United States rankled Mr. Bolton.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...s-for-autocratic-leaders-book-says/ar-BBZnPN5

 

[sggatecl]

I hope they finally grow a pair and investigate the Bidens. Did anyone listen to NPR yesterday? The timeline of events around hunter, Burisma and Joe is pretty damning. But we?re only supposed to care about the bad orange man.

In perusing Trump, they've essentially made Biden unelectable. GOP will come at him so damn fast and hard the moment he stepped foot in office. Impeachment is the new thing. They brought it on themselves.

*edit* Why is there a flailing green guy above my post? I didn't type or select that.

 

[tinselwolverine]

*edit* Why is there a flailing green guy above my post? I didn't type or select that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fXHKDb0CNjA

 

[tinselwolverine]

Just heard a radio report on the John Phillips show on 790 KABC that Diane Feinstein could be leaning toward acquitting.

 

[sggatecl]

Just heard a radio report on the John Phillips show on 790 KABC that Diane Feinstein could be leaning toward acquitting.

Senator Dianne Feinstein
@SenFeinstein
The LA Times misunderstood what I said today. Before the trial I said I'd keep an open mind. Now that both sides made their cases, it?s clear the president?s actions were wrong. He withheld vital foreign assistance for personal political gain. That can?t be allowed to stand.

 

[Spartanmack]

Do you have a link to that Biden video Cruz is talking about? I don't believe I've seen it yet. I would like to see a nice dagger to his campaign.

Also, that reporter is really, really fucking bad at his job. I'm glad Cruz made him look like the partisan douche he is. I hate reporters that interrupt. Fuck that guy.

This one?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

This video doesn't even come close to telling the whole story. Read the transcript from Monday's Senate hearing. It talks about how Hunter started an investment firm with a Heinz kid (John Kerry's stepson) and one of his or Heinz's college roommates, Devon Archer (convicted a fraud in a scheme to rip off a Native American tribe). Shortly after they partnered, Hunter took the Burisma board position without any experience in oil and gas or the energy sector in general, a month before that the UK opened a corruption investigation into Burisma.

Hunter was warned about it but took the job anyway. Heinz was so worried about the relationship, he withdrew from the partnership, and sent a letter to the State Department, making them aware of the relationship and making it clear the Burisma never paid any money to their partnership, just to Hunter. He didn't just tell his step dad and ask for advice, he got it on the record that he had nothing to do with Hunter's dealings with Burisma. A few months later, Biden threatens to withhold aid to Ukraine fi they don't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma. The Obama administration knew about Hunter, knew about the UK investigation and knew about Burisma's reputation for being among the most corrupt companies in a country where corruption was basically par for the course in business.

Also, while all of this was going on, Joe to Hunter with him on a trip to China during which he met with Bank of China official on behalf of Rosemont Capital. A month later, Rosemont Capital beat out a long list of private equity and investment banking heavy weights for $1.5B investment from the Bank of China for Rosemont to invest in and grow businesses in China.

All the while, Joe claims to have never spoken to his kid about any of his foreign business dealings. Of course, that's good enough for mainstream American media, as evidenced by Chuck Todd about a month ago opening a question to the former VP with "We know you've done nothing wrong with respect to Ukraine and your sons business interests..."

The idea that Trump is the dangerous one we need to worry about here is beyond absurd.

 

[tigermud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp1Ve6beRek#action=share

 

[tinselwolverine]

Senator Dianne Feinstein
@SenFeinstein
The LA Times misunderstood what I said today. Before the trial I said I'd keep an open mind. Now that both sides made their cases, it?s clear the president?s actions were wrong. He withheld vital foreign assistance for personal political gain. That can?t be allowed to stand.

Oh.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[tigermud]

Today's Question Phase of days of our impeachment is pretty boring. I'm just going to listen to music for the rest of the day now.

 

[TheVictors]

It’s all a hoax, a witch hunt, fake media, no you are but what am I.



It’s fucking pathetic what trump and his moron supporters have turned this country into.
If possible, Americans seem even dumber than before.

 

[tomdalton22]

It?s all a hoax, a witch hunt, fake media, no you are but what am I.



It?s fucking pathetic what trump and his moron supporters have turned this country into.
If possible, Americans seem even dumber than before.

Americans are just as dumb today as they were 8 years ago.