DD please sign Carlos Beltran for 2 years $20 mill

[durtymrclean]

He would be the perfect no. 2 or 3 hitter for the Tigers. Also would set up a nice trade scenario for a new 2b or 3b.

 

[turok]

Tigers needs are in this order, IMO: #2 or #3 LH SP, LH or SH 2B, LH or SH corner OF, with one of those two positional players who can bat leadoff as well, and last a 3B and then sit Kringe as a late inning "defensive" sub on the bench for his "final"? season as a Tiger (yeah, right!!). I wouldn't mind a SS but he would have to be @ least the equal of Peralta, and preferably better and can hit leadoff, while moving Jhonny to 2B. then the Tigers' brass perhaps offering him an extension of his contract for another season or two to make his move to 2B more "appealing"

As far as a corner OF, and unless the Tigers land Cespedes I would love it if the Tigers could pry Choo from the Tribe, like they did with Peralta, but am aware that the odds of that happening being slim to none.... unless they offered one of our SP prospects or perhaps Porcello to sweeten the deal, which is quite likely far out of the realm of possibility. Obtaining Beltran would give the Tigers more injury cover depth in the outfield, unless they were to decide to trade away perhaps Raburn or more likely Young afterwards.

Tigers are mentioned in this article as being one of several teams that "should" have interest in signing Beltran, who I wanted the Tigers to obtain last off-season instead of the gimpy Ordonez, and we all know how that worked out:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-strangely-thin-beltran-market/

 

[buddyboy2121]

why do we need a LH starter? the Central doesn't have nearly as many lefties as they used to so it's kind of pointless to pay extra for a lefty.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Why would a lefty be more money? I mean I haven't heard that before so I'm sure there is a stat on that but I don't think lefties get more money.

 

[buddyboy2121]

Mitch[/color]]Why would a lefty be more money? I mean I haven't heard that before so I'm sure there is a stat on that but I don't think lefties get more money.

Not more money, more prospects. How many good lefties are there out worth trading for? Gio, Hamels, and Price would all cost a stupid amount of prospects and deplete our farm system

 

[kalinecountry]

why do we need a LH starter? the Central doesn't have nearly as many lefties as they used to so it's kind of pointless to pay extra for a lefty.

Tigers play 72 games vs. Central teams 4 teams x 18 games each.
90 games vs. rest of league and 12/15/18 vs. national league teams.
It would help to have a good left hander in the rotation.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I don't think so. Sure those guys would cst. So would JV, and all the great RHP.

 

[Mitchrapp]

KalineCountry[/color]]
[quote="Maize&blue21":q8mh8k4n]why do we need a LH starter? the Central doesn't have nearly as many lefties as they used to so it's kind of pointless to pay extra for a lefty.

Tigers play 72 games vs. Central teams 4 teams x 18 games each.
90 games vs. rest of league and 12/15/18 vs. national league teams.
It would help to have a good left hander in the rotation.[/quote:q8mh8k4n]

I understand that. Just not sure it'd cost more to get one.

 

[buddyboy2121]

Mitch[/color]]
[quote="KalineCountry":t04xb3b8]

Tigers play 72 games vs. Central teams 4 teams x 18 games each.
90 games vs. rest of league and 12/15/18 vs. national league teams.
It would help to have a good left hander in the rotation.

I understand that. Just not sure it'd cost more to get one. [/quote:t04xb3b8]Because there are more good righties than good lefties so it would be cheaper in terms of prospects it would be cheaper to get a good righty than a lefty

 

[Mitchrapp]

If you say so and I'm not dissing so to speak. I'm just not sure I believe a LHP and RHP being equal that it would cst more for a lefty.

 

[biggunsbob]

Carlos has played in his last four years 142 last year,81,64,161 the preceding three years. Be careful he has trouble staying on the field... No wonder the Mets could not win with Reyes and Beltan.. Heck one or both were always hurt...

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Cards sign Beltran for 2yrs & $26mil...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/cardinals-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-carlos-beltran.html

 

[Mitchrapp]

ell that takes care of that. Q

 

[jimrice]

Cards sign Beltran for 2yrs & $26mil...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/cardinals-agree-to-two-year-deal-with-carlos-beltran.html

Beltran would have been nice, but I can't blame the Tigers for passing up. That's a stiff price to pay for such a big question mark. Realistically, can they expect more than 100 games a year?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Sometimes you need to take risks. Pudge was a risk, Maggs was a risk. Take another risk DD.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

I would have been happy with him for two years at $13mil per.

 

[jimrice]

Mitch[/color]]Sometimes you need to take risks. Pudge was a risk, Maggs was a risk. Take another risk DD.

Magglio, I get, as he was coming off knee surgery but how was Pudge a risk? The risk with Beltran was that he might not be on the field much as opposed to standard risk in a free agent not producing. Every move a team makes has inherent risk, but Beltran has significant injury risk. Not the same thing.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch[/color]]Sometimes you need to take risks. Pudge was a risk, Maggs was a risk. Take another risk DD.

Magglio, I get, as he was coming off knee surgery but how was Pudge a risk? The risk with Beltran was that he might not be on the field much as opposed to standard risk in a free agent not producing. Every move a team makes has inherent risk, but Beltran has significant injury risk. Not the same thing.

Because he was older and being a C... No one wanted to give him his 10m. That's a risk IMO.

 

[turok]

Tigers brass likely believes that the team as is will be able to hold its own until after the ASB, when they will have a better idea of what may need to be done or tweaked in order to win the ALCD (or not). Injuries happen, and oft-times certain players will have better (or worse) seasons than their career stats indicate, So they might need to fix or solve a situation that was not a problem prior to the start of the season.

Their general lack of depth everywhere except in their BP, is already a major concern going forward, IMO. Their farm system, esp in the high minors, has also been milked fairly dry as well, ever since the '06 season, since they have traded away or DFAed so many of their former "blue-chip" prospects, and put such a high priority on drafting SP in the early rounds each year.

 

[biggunsbob]

Good the cardinals signed this often injured player...