Don't Quote Churchill

[tinselwolverine]

I remember reading a couple other quotes from him like that, the "I will be sober and you will still be ugly..."

i'm pretty sure this is an urban myth.

In a WC Fields film, I think it's called "Going to California," Field says to a guy "in the morning I'll be sober and you'll still be crazy."

 

[byco42]

Time Ranked Winston the 5th most influential person of the 20th century, but he started the Century 3rd and fell in the rankings.

 

[jwlcosu]

Time Ranked Winston the 5th most influential person of the 20th century, but he started the Century 3rd and fell in the rankings.

What have you done for me lately?

 

[Spartanmack]

I'd put MLK jr, FDR, Gandhi, JFK, and Einstein way above him. Churchill would be down on the Ron Reagan level. Perhaps lower.

JFK - that's a good one. Thanks for the laugh Monster.

 

[Michchamp]

JFK - that's a good one. Thanks for the laugh Monster.

Derr yeah a dem-o-crat? Are you kiddin me? Only republicans knows how to run the country.

 

[Spartanmack]

Derr yeah a dem-o-crat? Are you kiddin me? Only republicans knows how to run the country.

He listed a few democrats but I only picked on Kennedy - wouldn't expect a dolt like you to pick up on that though. And this is a pretty funny response in defense of a Kennedy from a guy who criticized Churchill for being one of those "born on third base, thinks he hit a triple" guys. Other than Eunice, is there a Kennedy that doesn't personify that statement? Do you ever think before you speak? By the way, nice picture of Stalin for your avatar. Is that a joke or are you really that dumb and hypocritical? I'm guessing the latter.

 

[byco42]

JFK seems a mite out of place with the other persons mentioned. Somehow, I think if JFK had Churchill's gravitas he'd not have been bullied by Khrushchev so thoroughly in Vienna.

 

[Michchamp]

JFK seems a mite out of place with the other persons mentioned. Somehow, I think if JFK had Churchill's gravitas he'd not have been bullied by Khrushchev so thoroughly in Vienna.

Our president needs to kick butt, right?

 

[byco42]

Our president needs to kick butt, right?

Not really. Just needs to avoid getting it kicked too often.

 

[Michchamp]

too bad Fox News wasn't around at the time to burn the democrats over JFK's "surrender" to Khrushchev.

 

[Spartanmack]

too bad Fox News wasn't around at the time to burn the democrats over JFK's "surrender" to Khrushchev.

Good thing Fox News is around now so you can turn the tables every time you get your ass handed to you...

 

[Michchamp]

Good thing Fox News is around now so you can turn the tables every time you get your ass handed to you...

Good thing someone more clever than you invented the phrase "ass handed to you" so you can post it on the internet and pretend you won something.

 

[Spartanmack]

Good thing someone more clever than you invented the phrase "ass handed to you" so you can post it on the internet and pretend you won something.

Ooh, good one and very original from the guy who just got made fun for thinking Fox News references win every argument.

 

[tinselwolverine]

"Ass handed to you…" is another WC Fields phrase that is also commonly and mistakenly attributed to Churchill.

 

[Spartanmack]

"Ass handed to you?" is another WC Fields phrase that is also commonly and mistakenly attributed to Churchill.

My favorite quote attributed to Churchill was one of his exchanges w/ Lady Astor:

Lady Astor: "If you were my husband, I'd poison your tea,"
Churchill: "Madam, if you were my wife, I'd drink it!"

 

[Monster]

JFK - that's a good one. Thanks for the laugh Monster.

Really?

- established the peace corps.

- set the goal of landing on the moon and backed it up with funding.

- "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" - This quote would be repeated by every conservative man and woman on a weekly basis if Reagan had said it. Hell, it might have even been included in the Pledge of Allegiance.

- Helped end segregation in the south and moved the country closer to real racial equality. LBJ may have signed the Civil Rights Act, but it was JFK that should be held responsible. Credit to LBJ for finishing his work.

- Was able to get a nuclear test treaty signed with the Soviets and get Nukes removed and out of Cuba.

Did he make mistakes? Of course! That's not the criteria for "Greatest Figure". I'd say the qualifications should be based on accomplishments and JFK is right up there with the best of them.

 

[Monster]

Sorry that I find it odd that a man voted out of office by his own people could be considered the greatest figure of the 20th century.

 

[Michchamp]

Really?

- established the peace corps.

- set the goal of landing on the moon and backed it up with funding.

- "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" - This quote would be repeated by every conservative man and woman on a weekly basis if Reagan had said it. Hell, it might have even been included in the Pledge of Allegiance.

- Helped end segregation in the south and moved the country closer to real racial equality. LBJ may have signed the Civil Rights Act, but it was JFK that should be held responsible. Credit to LBJ for finishing his work.

- Was able to get a nuclear test treaty signed with the Soviets and get Nukes removed and out of Cuba.

Did he make mistakes? Of course! That's not the criteria for "Greatest Figure". I'd say the qualifications should be based on accomplishments and JFK is right up there with the best of them.

you're not thinking about this from spartanhack's POV... the peace corps, space exploration, and ending segregation are all bad things to him.

 

[Monster]

you're not thinking about this from spartanhack's POV... the peace corps, space exploration, and ending segregation are all bad things to him.

My mistake! Should have realized.

 

[byco42]

too bad Fox News wasn't around at the time to burn the democrats over JFK's "surrender" to Khrushchev.

He took his lumps at the time, and he also knew he was badly beaten. I liked JFK ... I wish a guy like that was president today.