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Dorsey looking to find a way back to Michigan

DR said:
MichChamp02 said:
I don't remember exactly. some of it had been expunged, IIRC, but there was the arrest records, and court record.

...

According to a jury of his peers and a judge, he was not guilty of committing any crimes. I guess you can show your disdain for the legal system and say whatever you want, but you would be wrong, of course.

Okay, call me out Jackwad. Here, I looked back at the issue.

According to this article, he never had a jury trial, but in each instance the verdict was returned as a result of deal that sent him to diversionary probation programs for youths. http://www.michigandaily.com/content/report-defensive-back-recruit-dorsey-confessed-two-burglaries-2007 <blockquote>According to the Broward County 17th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida, an individual with the same name and birth date as the Michigan recruit had two felony charges on his record: one for robbery with a deadly weapon in 2008 and another for burglary of an unoccupied dwelling in 2007. ...

The Free Press
 
I don't have anything against Dorsey... I hope he has cleaned up his act, gets a degree, and maybe even gets a shot at playing D-1 ball somewhere. I just don't think it's worth taking a chance on him.

Of course, he could turn out to be the greatest corner in the history of college football.

But so could a lot of other players we have a chance to recruit, who don't come with the same checkered history. Maybe if I heard other programs were beating a path to Grand Rapids to find a way to get him, it might convince me, but I haven't. So it's not worth the risk.

Weigh the risk -> conclude it's not worth it -> nothing personal

You disagree? Great. I love discussing our opinions on the matter. Yay, internets.
 
MichChamp02 said:
[quote="DR":x3imsbnz]

According to a jury of his peers and a judge, he was not guilty of committing any crimes. I guess you can show your disdain for the legal system and say whatever you want, but you would be wrong, of course.

Okay, call me out Jackwad. Here, I looked back at the issue.

According to this article, he never had a jury trial, but in each instance the verdict was returned as a result of deal that sent him to diversionary probation programs for youths. http://www.michigandaily.com/content/report-defensive-back-recruit-dorsey-confessed-two-burglaries-2007 <blockquote>According to the Broward County 17th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida, an individual with the same name and birth date as the Michigan recruit had two felony charges on his record: one for robbery with a deadly weapon in 2008 and another for burglary of an unoccupied dwelling in 2007. ...

The Free Press
 
MichChamp02 said:
... Maybe if I heard other programs were beating a path to Grand Rapids to find a way to get him, it might convince me, but I haven't. So it's not worth the risk...

This doesn't necessarily equate to beating a path to Grand Rapids, but you apparently didn't read the article so...

"Plenty of programs would love to have a player with Dorsey's ability, said JC Shurburtt, a former ESPN and Rivals recruiting analyst now with the website 247Sports. Dorsey says Tennessee, Texas Tech and Miami have expressed interest in adding him to their programs."
 
Again, I was not analyzing his criminal history from a legal standpoint, just saying that if I were the coach of Michigan, I would not take a chance on him.

that detnews article doesn't exactly wow me with his chances, either: <blockquote>The defensive backs and safeties circled around each other inside Grand Rapids Community College's gymnasium and watched as the flashy south Florida newcomer sauntered in with a disdainful look on his face.

Demar Dorsey didn't care he was late because he's Demar Dorsey, a highly-touted Division I prospect who had signed with Michigan just a year earlier. He was entitled to his own schedule.

At least that's the vibe Dorsey, a defensive back from Fort Lauderdale, gave Detroit native Evan Ray, his new freshman teammate. Ray had to issue a warning. One thing led to another, the two ended up jawing at each other, pushing and shoving, and even threw a few punches, according to coach Tony Annese.
</blockquote>sounds like he really arrived focused on being the best he could be...<blockquote>"He can fly, he can cover, he's a lock-down corner," said Annese, who also plays Dorsey at safety. "He's a great tackler, just a guy with a lot of ability. The thing is, even at this level, you find a lot of guys with that kind of ability. It's still humbling for him to a certain degree, to the point where he has those, 'Wow, that (opponent) is pretty good' moments."

One of Dorsey's major challenges this fall has been improving his footwork. Ryan Hodges, GRCC's defensive backs coach, said Dorsey often made plays in high school while out of position because he had game-changing 4.2 speed and a 39-inch vertical jump.

"Great athlete, but a horrible defensive back," Hodges said of his first impressions of Dorsey in practice. "He's got great potential, and we're helping him, but he's got to be the one to turn that potential into something positive."</blockquote>SO... he's still struggling to cover guys at Grand Rapids Community College, and has such poor technique, it's even evident to the Ray Howland-coaching types in the minor leagues...

So, I guess one could reasonably conclude he could be a lockdown corner at Michigan! I'd be willing to take a chance on that! What's his address? Send him an offer TODAY!
 
MichChamp02 said:
Again, I was not analyzing his criminal history from a legal standpoint, just saying that if I were the coach of Michigan, I would not take a chance on him....

Ohhhhh, so as long as it doesn't pertain to your main point you should be able to say anything you want, be it wrong, stupid, contradicting...and nobody should be able to point it out or correct you? Even if it's something related to your field of study and professional career? And even if you've railed against people for saying similar things in other threads (the tramp who was found not guilty for killing her kid)?

I'm sure you'll have NO trouble not contradicting this in the future.
 
He's FIVE STARS!!! What part of FIVE STAR RECRUIT don't you understand, Champ?? Five stars is more than two or three or four!!!
 
MichChamp02 said:
[quote="DR":yiheafaq]

According to a jury of his peers and a judge, he was not guilty of committing any crimes. I guess you can show your disdain for the legal system and say whatever you want, but you would be wrong, of course.

Okay, call me out Jackwad. Here, I looked back at the issue.

According to this article, he never had a jury trial, but in each instance the verdict was returned as a result of deal that sent him to diversionary probation programs for youths. http://www.michigandaily.com/content/report-defensive-back-recruit-dorsey-confessed-two-burglaries-2007 <blockquote>According to the Broward County 17th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida, an individual with the same name and birth date as the Michigan recruit had two felony charges on his record: one for robbery with a deadly weapon in 2008 and another for burglary of an unoccupied dwelling in 2007. ...

The Free Press
 
DR said:
MichChamp02 said:
Again, I was not analyzing his criminal history from a legal standpoint, just saying that if I were the coach of Michigan, I would not take a chance on him....

Ohhhhh, so as long as it doesn't pertain to your main point you should be able to say anything you want, be it wrong, stupid, contradicting...and nobody should be able to point it out or correct you? Even if it's something related to your field of study and professional career? And even if you've railed against people for saying similar things in other threads (the tramp who was found not guilty for killing her kid)?

I'm sure you'll have NO trouble not contradicting this in the future.

Sounds like SOMEBODY got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...
 
MichChamp02 said:
DR said:
Ohhhhh, so as long as it doesn't pertain to your main point you should be able to say anything you want, be it wrong, stupid, contradicting...and nobody should be able to point it out or correct you? Even if it's something related to your field of study and professional career? And even if you've railed against people for saying similar things in other threads (the tramp who was found not guilty for killing her kid)?

I'm sure you'll have NO trouble not contradicting this in the future.

Sounds like SOMEBODY got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...

You know what, I actually did. My wife was sleeping on the side I usually do, next to the alarm clock, and it caused me to be about 10 minutes late. Good analysis!
 
Omar Epps's character on House was a car thief, and went on to become a big time doctor. Now he's House's boss, and House is the one under house (ha, ha) arrest!!!
 
Going to a JUCO and playing sandlot, RichRod-style garbage football isn't demonstrating squat.

Read more: http://www.yamaharaptorforum.com/phpBB/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3227#ixzz1e09gqxk0


That statement is BULLSHIT. Tony Annesse, who is the head coach at GRCC, is a great football coach with a great football mind. The offense they run is the "showgun", a hybrid spread/flexbone that he developed at Muskegon when they won their state championships.

After attending a coaching clinic run by Annesse and his coaching staff, their is nothing GARBAGE about what is run at the JUCO level, offense or defense. It is very complex, and these players need to know their shit or they don't play. The players that attend there are DEVELOPING themselves on and off the field so they can play D-1 football, not in some Sunday night beer league.

So again, stop commenting about the X's and O's of football. You make blanketed, IGNORANT statements about things you know little about. Just because you sat your ass in the stands at Brother Rice doesn't make you a football expert, the same way watching CSI doesn't make a person a forensics detective...
 
MichChamp02 said:
[quote="DR":nyywajed]

According to a jury of his peers and a judge, he was not guilty of committing any crimes. I guess you can show your disdain for the legal system and say whatever you want, but you would be wrong, of course.

Okay, call me out Jackwad. Here, I looked back at the issue.

According to this article, he never had a jury trial, but in each instance the verdict was returned as a result of deal that sent him to diversionary probation programs for youths. http://www.michigandaily.com/content/report-defensive-back-recruit-dorsey-confessed-two-burglaries-2007 <blockquote>According to the Broward County 17th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida, an individual with the same name and birth date as the Michigan recruit had two felony charges on his record: one for robbery with a deadly weapon in 2008 and another for burglary of an unoccupied dwelling in 2007. ...

The Free Press
 
MichChamp02 said:
Again, I was not analyzing his criminal history from a legal standpoint, just saying that if I were the coach of Michigan, I would not take a chance on him.

that detnews article doesn't exactly wow me with his chances, either: <blockquote>The defensive backs and safeties circled around each other inside Grand Rapids Community College's gymnasium and watched as the flashy south Florida newcomer sauntered in with a disdainful look on his face.

Demar Dorsey didn't care he was late because he's Demar Dorsey, a highly-touted Division I prospect who had signed with Michigan just a year earlier. He was entitled to his own schedule.

At least that's the vibe Dorsey, a defensive back from Fort Lauderdale, gave Detroit native Evan Ray, his new freshman teammate. Ray had to issue a warning. One thing led to another, the two ended up jawing at each other, pushing and shoving, and even threw a few punches, according to coach Tony Annese.
</blockquote>sounds like he really arrived focused on being the best he could be...<blockquote>"He can fly, he can cover, he's a lock-down corner," said Annese, who also plays Dorsey at safety. "He's a great tackler, just a guy with a lot of ability. The thing is, even at this level, you find a lot of guys with that kind of ability. It's still humbling for him to a certain degree, to the point where he has those, 'Wow, that (opponent) is pretty good' moments."

One of Dorsey's major challenges this fall has been improving his footwork. Ryan Hodges, GRCC's defensive backs coach, said Dorsey often made plays in high school while out of position because he had game-changing 4.2 speed and a 39-inch vertical jump.

"Great athlete, but a horrible defensive back," Hodges said of his first impressions of Dorsey in practice. "He's got great potential, and we're helping him, but he's got to be the one to turn that potential into something positive."</blockquote>SO... he's still struggling to cover guys at Grand Rapids Community College, and has such poor technique, it's even evident to the Ray Howland-coaching types in the minor leagues...

So, I guess one could reasonably conclude he could be a lockdown corner at Michigan! I'd be willing to take a chance on that! What's his address? Send him an offer TODAY!


i would go out on a limb and say that mattison and hoke and the entire defensive coaching staff is a little bit better than grcc's coaching staff. i think they could probably take his talent and teach him and mold him into a great corner. he has the POTENTIAL to be a lock down corner with his speed and athletic ability.
 
rayhowland3 said:
Going to a JUCO and playing sandlot, RichRod-style garbage football isn't demonstrating squat.

Read more: http://www.yamaharaptorforum.com/phpBB/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3227#ixzz1e09gqxk0


That statement is BULLSHIT. Tony Annesse, who is the head coach at GRCC, is a great football coach with a great football mind. The offense they run is the "showgun", a hybrid spread/flexbone that he developed at Muskegon when they won their state championships.

After attending a coaching clinic run by Annesse and his coaching staff, their is nothing GARBAGE about what is run at the JUCO level, offense or defense. It is very complex, and these players need to know their shit or they don't play. The players that attend there are DEVELOPING themselves on and off the field so they can play D-1 football, not in some Sunday night beer league.

So again, stop commenting about the X's and O's of football. You make blanketed, IGNORANT statements about things you know little about. Just because you sat your ass in the stands at Brother Rice doesn't make you a football expert, the same way watching CSI doesn't make a person a forensics detective...

what's up Ray!?! How've you been? Haven't seen you post much around here lately.
 
TheVictors03 said:
Beez said:
Either they don't know........... don't show............. or don't care about what's going on in the hood?

Nice job, Dough Boy

I make dough, but don't call me dough boy!
 
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