Election Aftermath

[Gulo Blue]

We've got all these cases to look into

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-..._the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

and Trump raised a quarter BILLION in the 8 weeks following the election

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/us/politics/trump-voter-fraud-fundraising.html

So the resources and manpower are there. Maybe Trump just didn't feel like investigating. Nationwide conspiracy. Somehow one half of the country kept a secret from the other half.

 

[tinselwolverine]

no one has been able to verify it because courts keep refusing to hear cases.
And I'm not sure it would be possible in many cases, let alone easy if they were since there are no signature matching requirements in a lot of the battleground states and where they are they're being rejected by partisan judges. And in places like PA, judges ruled that ballots don't need to be postmarked at all, among other changes that clearly make elections less secure.

Okay...so let?s say every single challenged ballot in PA was excluded from the count - the ones that weren?t postmarked and any other thing that would make an election less secure - obviously those kinds of votes that went to either candidate - would the result have been different?

Forget the court for a minute - long after the final court decision for the 2000 election, ballots were being counted and recounted in Florida.

For what it?s worth, the reports I heard confirmed that indeed, Bush had legitimately won.

 

[Spartanmack]

Okay...so let?s say every single challenged ballot in PA was excluded from the count - the ones that weren?t postmarked and any other thing that would make an election less secure - obviously those kinds of votes that went to either candidate - would the result have been different?

Forget the court for a minute - long after the final court decision for the 2000 election, ballots were being counted and recounted in Florida.

For what it?s worth, the reports I heard confirmed that indeed, Bush had legitimately won.

I don't know if Biden won legitimately or not, and if we have the same policies in place for future elections, I don't think we'll be able to say that winner won legimately regardless of who it is. What happened in PA with the SOS bypassing the legislature was outrageous and a clear violation of the PA constitution and election laws. Similar things happened in other states. With mail in voting expanding in this and likely future elections this opens up massive opportunity for voter fraud. That's obvious and irrefutable - investigating the 2020 election whether the result is found to be legit or not won't change that. The idea that we shouldn't fix these massive holes, particularly if we're expanding mail-in voting (personally, I think it should be restricted, not expanded), because no one has proved fraud is just plain stupid.

 

[Gulo Blue]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-georgia-voting-idUSKBN2BH2TC

Georgia bans giving water to voters in line under sweeping restrictions

Gotta keep elections secure. A hydrated voter could be committing fraud!

 

[tinselwolverine]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-georgia-voting-idUSKBN2BH2TC

Gotta keep elections secure. A hydrated voter could be committing fraud!

It doesn?t say anything about a voter not being allowed to bring their own IV hook up.

Wouldn?t it suck if Jesus Christ was in line waiting to vote, gasping and suffering under the burdens of his cross, and some guy went to give Jesus Christ water and the guy got arrested by the Republitards?

That would suck.

That would be a biblical proportions suck.

 

[Spartanmack]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-georgia-voting-idUSKBN2BH2TC

Gotta keep elections secure. A hydrated voter could be committing fraud!

this is obvious voter suppression - everyone knows how hard it is to bring your own water to the polls. It's harder to get an ID or bring your own water than it is to buy a gun in this country!

 

[Gulo Blue]

this is obvious voter suppression - everyone knows how hard it is to bring your own water to the polls. It's harder to get an ID or bring your own water than it is to buy a gun in this country!

How does it make elections more secure?

 

[Spartanmack]

It doesn?t say anything about a voter not being allowed to bring their own IV hook up.

Wouldn?t it suck if Jesus Christ was in line waiting to vote, gasping and suffering under the burdens of his cross, and some guy went to give Jesus Christ water and the guy got arrested by the Republitards?

That would suck.

That would be a biblical proportions suck.

All he has to do is bring Moses with him - and remind him to bring his staff. And a rock. Problem solved.

Edit: or he could just bring a bottle of water. I think enough people have died of dehydration in line at the polls by now that everyone knows to bring water.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Christ could start with 1 ballot, vote enough for 5,000, and have 12 baskets of ballots left over. The water restriction might make sense because you don't want everyone in line drinking wine before voting.

 

[tinselwolverine]

All he has to do is bring Moses with him - and remind him to bring his staff. And a rock. Problem solved.

Edit: or he could just bring a bottle of water. I think enough people have died of dehydration in line at the polls by now that everyone knows to bring water.

I don?t think that Dead Sea water is potable. There?s a reason they call it the Dead Sea.

Bringing a bottle of water seems like a better idea. Jesus could strap the bottle to his cross; that might be a very sporty look, not entirely unlike strapping a fanny pack to the cross you?re carrying to your own crucifixion.

Everyone bringing a bottle of water is actually a good idea, and its purposes could be twofold. One of the purposes could be virtue signaling, like the wearing of the mask ? ?I care enough about this election to not let myself die from dehydration.?

The other purpose would of course be to not die of dehydration.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Christ could start with 1 ballot, vote enough for 5,000, and have 12 baskets of ballots left over. The water restriction might make sense because you don't want everyone in line drinking wine before voting.

Kind of like what happened at Cobo Hall on election night?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Kind of like what happened at Cobo Hall on election night?

Exactly. And if water can turn frogs gay, it can probably make people vote left wing.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Exactly. And if water can turn frogs gay, it can probably make people vote left wing.

We certainly know that wine can do that, or at least make left wing choices.

President Reagan used to wake up Saturday mornings after ?budget meetings? with Tip O?Neil and say ?I agreed to spend how much for what??

 

[Spartanmack]

How does it make elections more secure?

it doesn't - presumably, it's purpose is to keep the polls neutral by limiting opportunities for people to campaign while handing out water or other items. Maybe it's overkill given existing law, but I don't see this as a very big deal. If we're not supposed to worry about the first amendment and cancel culture, this seems like an extremely trivial thing to get your panties in a wad over.

 

[Spartanmack]

I don?t think that Dead Sea water is potable. There?s a reason they call it the Dead Sea.

Bringing a bottle of water seems like a better idea. Jesus could strap the bottle to his cross; that might be a very sporty look, not entirely unlike strapping a fanny pack to the cross you?re carrying to your own crucifixion.

Everyone bringing a bottle of water is actually a good idea, and its purposes could be twofold. One of the purposes could be virtue signaling, like the wearing of the mask ? ?I care enough about this election to not let myself die from dehydration.?

The other purpose would of course be to not die of dehydration.

I'm not talking about the Dead Sea water - I don't even think we have a polling station anywhere near the Dead Sea. Remember, God told Moses to strike the stone with his staff to get water in the dessert - that's why I recommended Jesus remind Moses to bring his staff, and a rock. You may recall, Moses struck the stone one too many times and for that he was banned from the Promised Land but he can probably still get an ID and vote almost as easily as he could buy a gun in America.

 

[Gulo Blue]

it doesn't - presumably, it's purpose is to keep the polls neutral by limiting opportunities for people to campaign while handing out water or other items. Maybe it's overkill given existing restriction, but I don't see this as a very big deal. If we're not supposed to worry about the first amendment and cancel culture, getting our panties in a wad over this seems extremely trivial.

Except you're talking about people complaining on twitter or getting banned on twitter. That's not a first amendment issue. The government doesn't run cancel culture.

This water thing, while small and speaking more to motive than anything, is at least about the government imposing restrictions on people.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I'm not talking about the Dead Sea water. Remember, God told Moses to strike the stone with his staff to get water in the dessert - that's why I recommended Jesus remind Moses to bring his staff, and a rock. You may recall, Moses struck the stone one too many times and for that he was banned from the Promised Land but he can probably still get an ID and vote almost as easily as he could buy a gun in America.

Striking things with sticks might be voter intimidation.

 

[Gulo Blue]

"Who you voting for? You want some water to flow out of you too?"

 

[Spartanmack]

Except you're talking about people complaining on twitter or getting banned on twitter. That's not a first amendment issue. The government doesn't run cancel culture.

This water thing, while small and speaking more to motive than anything, is at least about the government imposing restrictions on people.

I'm talking about a lot more than that - it is a first amendment issue, and it's bleeding over into other areas where the government is getting involved, like the "equality act." You may not consider it part of cancel culture, but if we're not supposed to worry about laws that wipe out decades of efforts for women's equality, we probably shouldn't worry about the government telling people to bring their own water to the polls.

 

[Spartanmack]

Striking things with sticks might be voter intimidation.

doesn't sound like the kind of thing Jesus would do, or ask Moses to do.

For people other than Moses, do they have to actually strike something? is this technically not voter intimidation?