Election Aftermath

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I?ll never believe Biden got more legal votes than Obama. EVER

Yet you have no trouble believing Trump did.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I think the last two elections had overwhelmingly more votes against something rather than for something.

 

[Spartanmack]

Except, thanks to unelected state bureaucrats changing election laws in direct contravention to their state constitutions, the last election had way more votes against something that never would have counted in the prior election, or any election before that. But we're told it was the most fair and secure election of all time - because they say it was. And people are OK with it because orange man bad.

 

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Except, thanks to unelected state bureaucrats changing election laws in direct contravention to their state constitutions, the last election had way more votes against something that never would have counted in the prior election, or any election before that. But we're told it was the most fair and secure election of all time - because they say it was. And people are OK with it because orange man bad.

Excuse # 3982

 

[tinselwolverine]

Except, thanks to unelected state bureaucrats changing election laws in direct contravention to their state constitutions, the last election had way more votes against something that never would have counted in the prior election, or any election before that. But we're told it was the most fair and secure election of all time - because they say it was. And people are OK with it because orange man bad.

But has anyone demonstrated that if every one of those votes hadn?t counted this election the outcome would have been different?

If it?s the case, it shouldn?t be hard to demonstrate - the election boards should have a record of those votes that wouldn?t have been counted in the prior election or any election before that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Except, thanks to unelected state bureaucrats changing election laws in direct contravention to their state constitutions, the last election had way more votes against something that never would have counted in the prior election, or any election before that. But we're told it was the most fair and secure election of all time - because they say it was. And people are OK with it because orange man bad.

No kidding! Friggin' extra votes from people that took advantage of the flexibility. We want voting to be enough of a pain in the butt for more people to not vote for a reason!

 

[byco42]

No kidding! Friggin' extra votes from people that took advantage of the flexibility. We want voting to be enough of a pain in the butt for more people to not vote for a reason!

Voting is a sacred trust that should take time, effort, preparation, and commitment. It should not be as easy as, for example, changing election state election laws without due diligence.

When the Electoral College is abolished, I think that then the General Election (as all elections) should mandate in-person voting on a paper ballot, with exceptions, to illustrate the responsibility that comes with voting. Where there are already established mail-in policies, revoke them. A ballot should, whenever possible, be completed in public in the company of peers and not in one's kitchen.

 

[tigermud]

Yet you have no trouble believing Trump did.

Nope in fact he likely won in a huge landslide in 2016. The fraud machine massively underestimated how many they would need, and they didn't have plandemic stay home stay safe mail in harvesting to push it over the edge in 16.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Voting is a sacred trust that should take time, effort, preparation, and commitment. It should not be as easy as, for example, changing election state election laws without due diligence.

When the Electoral College is abolished, I think that then the General Election (as all elections) should mandate in-person voting on a paper ballot, with exceptions, to illustrate the responsibility that comes with voting. Where there are already established mail-in policies, revoke them. A ballot should, whenever possible, be completed in public in the company of peers and not in one's kitchen.

Restrictions that require time and travel don't ensure that the work is put in though. It just ensures that people with the least time to spare won't participate.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Why should we vote on a work day?

 

[tigermud]

Make it a national holiday require in personal voting with ID with exceptions only for those truly disabled no mode of transportation or overseas out of state at the time etc. And it should be election day! not election month!

 

[Gulo Blue]

Make it a national holiday require in personal voting with ID with exceptions only for those truly disabled no mode of transportation or overseas out of state at the time etc. And it should be election day! not election month!

Bingo. These things go together. Increase access and security. Don't just focus on security to the point that it restricts access.

 

[Spartanmack]

But has anyone demonstrated that if every one of those votes hadn?t counted this election the outcome would have been different?

If it?s the case, it shouldn?t be hard to demonstrate - the election boards should have a record of those votes that wouldn?t have been counted in the prior election or any election before that.

no one has been able to verify it because courts keep refusing to hear cases.
And I'm not sure it would be possible in many cases, let alone easy if they were since there are no signature matching requirements in a lot of the battleground states and where they are they're being rejected by partisan judges. And in places like PA, judges ruled that ballots don't need to be postmarked at all, among other changes that clearly make elections less secure.

 

[Spartanmack]

No kidding! Friggin' extra votes from people that took advantage of the flexibility. We want voting to be enough of a pain in the butt for more people to not vote for a reason!

unfortunately for you, it's not that simple. And it's not about the "extra" votes, it's about the security of elections.
Given your inability to see obvious flaws in a study, I doubt you'd get this either.

 

[Gulo Blue]

no one has been able to verify it because courts keep refusing to hear cases.
And I'm not sure it would be possible in many cases, let alone easy if they were since there are no signature matching requirements in a lot of the battleground states and where they are they're being rejected by partisan judges. And in places like PA, judges ruled that ballots don't need to be postmarked at all, among other changes that clearly make elections less secure.

Did any lawyers ever present any evidence? Not to the press, to a judge.

 

[Spartanmack]

Make it a national holiday require in personal voting with ID with exceptions only for those truly disabled no mode of transportation or overseas out of state at the time etc. And it should be election day! not election month!

and make counting the ballots fully transparent.

 

[Gulo Blue]

and make counting the ballots fully transparent.

...and make people pay a tax and own land their grandfathers owned and take a rigged civics test!

 

[Spartanmack]

Did any lawyers ever present any evidence? Not to the press, to a judge.

did any lawyers present any evidence of things like a lack of signature matching requirements and courts ruling that ballots don't need valid postmarks? Is that a real question?

 

[elrod817]

no one has been able to verify it because courts keep refusing to hear cases.
And I'm not sure it would be possible in many cases, let alone easy if they were since there are no signature matching requirements in a lot of the battleground states and where they are they're being rejected by partisan judges. And in places like PA, judges ruled that ballots don't need to be postmarked at all, among other changes that clearly make elections less secure.

The amount of votes that were received in Pennsylvania after Election Day were around 10,000. Even if every vote were for Biden and taken away, Biden still would have won.

 

[Spartanmack]

...and make people pay a tax and own land their grandfathers owned and take a rigged civics test!

Yeah, because transparency in vote counting is just like those things you've listed. Good job. By the way, those are the things your new party does, not mine.