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Election Aftermath

Are those electricians and plumbers giving blowjobs or getting analized while electritioning and plumbing?

Electrician

Plumber

Here in the San Fernando Valley, da porn Capitol of da erff, a guy playing an electrician or a plumber in a gay porn scene might make $100 - $250 per hour.

do you expect anyone to click on these links after reading the full post? I'm definitely not.
 
and again... if we don't as a society want to finance people studying and learning at universities (which is really saying ONLY rich kids should get to do that), instead we should stop subsidizing and protecting the student loan industry and lenders. make them bear the burden of recklessly loaning an 18-year-old $250K for a 4 year bachelor of arts that's going to take him 30 years to pay back (if ever)

if money isn't artificially cheap and we don't bail out borrowers and lenders or tell people you can't put a price on education (you definitely can and should), university would be a lot less expensive - probably cheap enough for people to borrow money for their art history degree and pay it back with their coffee shop and bookstore jobs.
 
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do you expect anyone to click on these links after reading the full post? I'm definitely not.

It wasn?t much of a full post. The links are just too data about what electricians and plumbers typically earn. Reasonable middle class incomes in fairly stable industries, but according to the data, ain?t a lot of them making 100 bucks an hour, let alone 250.

Hence, the reason for my speculation that there might be additional services involved.
 
It wasn’t much of a full post. The links are just too data about what electricians and plumbers typically earn. Reasonable middle class incomes in fairly stable industries, but according to the data, ain’t a lot of them making 100 bucks an hour, let alone 250.

Hence, the reason for my speculation that there might be additional services involved.

the risk that the links were to videos produced in the San Fernando valley was a little too high for my liking.
 
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How hard could plumbing be? Bet I could rig something up.
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How hard could plumbing be? Bet I could rig something up.
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depends on the problem - if it's a pump issue, they may need an experienced plumber to wash up on shore w/ all his tools. If it's just hard water, they can probably clean the calcium deposits out of the coconut or just make a new shower head out of another coconut.
 
It wasn?t much of a full post. The links are just too data about what electricians and plumbers typically earn. Reasonable middle class incomes in fairly stable industries, but according to the data, ain?t a lot of them making 100 bucks an hour, let alone 250.

Hence, the reason for my speculation that there might be additional services involved.

Again, the junior apprentice basic level work is not what i was referencing. I was referring to the guys who have 10 years experience and hold the license while having several junior crews do the shit labor like running the cables in extreme weather conditions or the guys who do specialist work that requires more than just the normal license. But that is no different than any profession, many variables exist. Some of these guys have businesses that earn millions each year because they have enough crews and contracted work. As with any business/profession, they get what their abilities provide.
 
Again, the junior apprentice basic level work is not what i was referencing. I was referring to the guys who have 10 years experience and hold the license while having several junior crews do the shit labor like running the cables in extreme weather conditions or the guys who do specialist work that requires more than just the normal license. But that is no different than any profession, many variables exist. Some of these guys have businesses that earn millions each year because they have enough crews and contracted work. As with any business/profession, they get what their abilities provide.

You are absolutely correct.

The cream rises to the top; the wheat is separated from the chaff.

You responded exactly as I would have responded were I have to been having this discussion with myself.

Which - and it hopefully doesn?t come an any surprise - I did.

I considered including how I might have responded to myself in my response, but I decided not to.

And I?m glad I didn?t.

Your response was magnificent.

I?m not being sarcastic.

It is exactly the response I would have made to myself in my own post that you quoted were I have been responding to myself in my own post.

Bravo.
 
It wasn’t much of a full post. The links are just too data about what electricians and plumbers typically earn. Reasonable middle class incomes in fairly stable industries, but according to the data, ain’t a lot of them making 100 bucks an hour, let alone 250.

Hence, the reason for my speculation that there might be additional services involved.

I got a quote of $8k to replumb the galvanized steel supply lines in my basement - it was not a finished basement, so everything was wide open and easily accessible. I asked how many people would be on the job and for how long - just him for a day, maybe a day and a half. I asked him if he was planning to plumb my basement with gold or maybe unobtanium. He was going to do the job in pex - not even copper, so it would be a max of $500 in materials. So his rate was somewhere between $500 and $750/hr. I got another quote for the same work for over $6k so about $390-580/hr for that guy. I found a Ukranian guy on Craig's List who did it in copper for less than $1,500 which I figure worked out to about $100/hr.
 
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I got a quote of $8k to replumb the galvanized steel supply lines in my basement - it was not a finished basement, so everything was wide open and easily accessible. I asked how many people would be on the job and for how long - just him for a day, maybe a day and a half. I asked him if he was planning to plumb my basement with gold or maybe unobtanium. He was going to do the job in pex - not even copper, so it would be a max of $500 in materials. So his rate was somewhere between $500 and $750/hr. I got another quote for the same work for over $6k so about $390-580/hr for that guy. I found a Ukranian guy on Craig's List who did it in copper for less than $1,500 which I figure worked out to about $100/hr.

Sure, good.

Those guys were independent businessmen competing in the free market. The costs included their overhead; their vehicle, their tools, their marketing (Craig’s list ad), and so forth.

That said, good for them for doing well in the free market.

And zyxt is absolutely right - a guy who knows how to plumb who also has business acumen - savvy with marketing, logistics, supply chain, staffing, etc. - can become a mega million.

And good for them.

The cream rises to the top; the wheat gets separated from the chaff.

EDIT: My bad for not giving kudos to you for mocking the first guy about using gold - nice job.

Just this week I finally got a call back from a doc’s office that I literally made a BBB complaint against - docs I think ain’t used to gettin’ those; I think peops is just too trusting of their doctors - and of course, docs don’t return those kinds of calls.

So I’m being charged an exorbitant amount of money for just a few minutes time with this guy, and I said to the guy who called me back, I said “I wouldn’t pay more than half that for the same amount of time to have sex with Jennifer Anniston - and we’re talkin’ butt sex, too.”
 
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Sure, good.

Those guys were independent businessmen competing in the free market. The costs included their overhead; their vehicle, their tools, their marketing (Craig’s list ad), and so forth.

That said, good for them for doing well in the free market.

And zyxt is absolutely right - a guy who knows how to plumb who also has business acumen - savvy with marketing, logistics, supply chain, staffing, etc. - can become a mega million.

And good for them.

The cream rises to the top; the wheat gets separated from the chaff.

EDIT: My bad for not giving kudos to you for mocking the first guy about using gold - nice job.

Just this week I finally got a call back from a doc’s office that I literally made a BBB complaint against - docs I think ain’t used to gettin’ those; I think peops is just too trusting of their doctors - and of course, docs don’t return those kinds of calls.

So I’m being charged an exorbitant amount of money for just a few minutes time with this guy, and I said to the guy who called me back, I said “I wouldn’t pay more than half that for the same amount of time to have sex with Jennifer Anniston - and we’re talkin’ butt sex, too.”

but no kudos for the Avatar reference? I get it, I probably wouldn't give props for references to overrated movies either.

it's not about overhead and even it it was, it's still the hourly rate and it's obscene. It's a function of the area we live in. In this part of NJ, these guys can drop 15 or more of these estimates in a week and they'll probably get 2 people who don't question the price because they're clueless and have shitloads of money so they just write a check because they're way too busy to get another price - one of their equally clueless friends probably referred the plumber to them.

I finally asked one guy who gave me the most reasonable estimate for another job and he told me when he first started working in the area he never got any work even though he knew his prices were competitive. He asked one person why they went with another contractor and they told him because they thought his price was too low. He started adding 20% to his estimates and started getting work. Another reminder of what a good friend of mine would always say..."Human beings are so f'n stupid."
 
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but no kudos for the Avatar reference? I get it, I probably wouldn't give props for references to overrated movies either.

it's not about overhead and even it it was, it's still the hourly rate and it's obscene. It's a function of the area we live in. In this part of NJ, these guys can drop 15 or more of these estimates in a week and they'll probably get 2 people who don't question the price because they're clueless and have shitloads of money so they just write a check because they're way too busy to get another price - one of their equally clueless friends probably referred the plumber to them.

I finally asked one guy who gave me the most reasonable estimate for another job and he told me when he first started working in the area he never got any work even though he knew his prices were competitive. He asked one person why they went with another contractor and they told him because they thought his price was too low. He started adding 20% to his estimates and started getting work. Another reminder of what a good friend of mine would always say..."Human beings are so f'n stupid."

Sorry, didn?t recognize it.

I figured unobtanium must have been some kind of fictitious substance from the context, but I didn?t know from where.

When it comes to fictional metal I?m a Wolverine man all the way.
 
wikipedia
Engineering origin
Since the late 1950s,[a][1] aerospace engineers have used the term "unobtainium" when referring to unusual or costly materials, or when theoretically considering a material perfect for their needs in all respects, except that it does not exist. By the 1990s, the term was in wide use, even in formal engineering papers such as "Towards unobtainium [new composite materials for space applications]."[2][3]

The word "unobtainium" may well have been coined in the aerospace industry to refer to materials capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures expected in re-entry.[1] Aerospace engineers are frequently tempted to design aircraft which require parts with strength or resilience beyond that of currently available materials.

Later, 'unobtainium' became an engineering term for practical materials that really exist, but are difficult to get.[4] For example, during the development of the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane, Lockheed engineers at the "Skunk Works" under Clarence "Kelly" Johnson used 'unobtainium' as a dysphemism for titanium. Titanium allowed a higher strength-to-weight ratio at the high temperatures the Blackbird would reach, but its availability was restricted because the Soviet Union controlled its supply.
 
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