Ex-Tiger Damon to Ortiz: Sign with Yanks

[turok]

I completely agree with Damon, Big Gloppi to Yankees might result in a better chance for him to make it back to the World Series sooner than as a Sux, since that franchise had a postseason meltdown and the team a historic late-season swandive, so it is perhaps more unlikely that it will rebound in just a season or two from the major changes in the hierarchy of the Sux' brass and manager-coaching staff to contend for more than the ALED title and also win a WS championship, but that is of course also dependent upon what moves, that they may make out of needing to prove that they are going to try to make everyone quickly forget that the early and esp. the late '11 season ever happened during this off-season. Due to the fact that Lackey will be out for all of next season, the Sux are likely going to be a major player in attempting to land the FA CJ Wilson, who is overrated, overpaid and will probably get a long-term contract of at least four years.

The Rays, Jays and even the O's improving could make it even more difficult for the Sux to finish any better than third or perhaps at best second in the ALED, but even in the latter case, still not clinching a WC b/c of better '12 regular-season records by perhaps the Angels, Indians, White Sox, A's and/or Tigers.

Plus and best/most of all. I would absolutely love to see/read the Sux Nation and esp. the nut-hugging EC MSM and ESPN et. al reaction to Ortiz becoming a Yankee and then beginning next season, clubbing homers vs the Sux @ Yankee Stadium and on the road @ Fenway..haha!!!

Damon to Ortiz: Sign with Yankees

 

[jimrice]

Personally, I think the Sox are in a better spot than the Yankees. Assuming both will spend what it takes to be competitive, it comes down to the playoffs. I'd prefer Lester, Beckett, Bucholtz to CC, Nova, ?. Of course, with those two teams, the personal can change dramatically. I don't think the Yanks have good playoff starters, they've been weak for a few years.

 

[turok]

Personally, I think the Sox are in a better spot than the Yankees. Assuming both will spend what it takes to be competitive, it comes down to the playoffs. I'd prefer Lester, Beckett, Bucholtz to CC, Nova, ?. Of course, with those two teams, the personal can change dramatically. I don't think the Yanks have good playoff starters, they've been weak for a few years.

I have no love for the Yankees or esp. their fanbase either, but they obviously managed to overcome their rotational woes last season, mostly by their offense and to a lesser degree their RP, and I expect them to find some way to do so again next season, if it becomes necessary.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

This would be a pretty smart move for the Yankees for a couple reasons. #1 it gives them a premier DH. #2 it would allow the Yankees to trade Montero or Gardner away for starting pitching help.

 

[spockmaster]

gardner i can see since another OF is easier to get, but why would they trade montero after signing ortiz? he's by far their best catching prospect and the best catcher they have right now is russell martin. its not like ortiz can catch either. unless you're the twins, you dont just trade good catching prospects on a whim.

 

[jimrice]

Personally, I think the Sox are in a better spot than the Yankees. Assuming both will spend what it takes to be competitive, it comes down to the playoffs. I'd prefer Lester, Beckett, Bucholtz to CC, Nova, ?. Of course, with those two teams, the personal can change dramatically. I don't think the Yanks have good playoff starters, they've been weak for a few years.

I have no love for the Yankees or esp. their fanbase either, but they obviously managed to overcome their rotational woes last season, mostly by their offense and to a lesser degree their RP, and I expect them to find some way to do so again next season, if it becomes necessary.

My point is that they didn't overcome them. They lost to the Tigers. The Yanks had two more wins and played in a division that was far superior to the Tigers. Detroit was a heavy underdog.

I think both teams will make a run at the playoffs easily, and probably both make it. When they get to the playoffs, I believe the Yanks will be exposed by the other good teams. I don't believe they match up well against any top competition .... possible playoff teams like Tex, Anaheim, Detroit, TB or Bos. All have significantly better starters.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

gardner i can see since another OF is easier to get, but why would they trade montero after signing ortiz? he's by far their best catching prospect and the best catcher they have right now is russell martin. its not like ortiz can catch either. unless you're the twins, you dont just trade good catching prospects on a whim.

Because of how Russell Martin did last season. Montero is a good hitter, but not a good catcher from what I've read and heard. He's more of a LF/DH type who can serve as a backup catcher (sort of the VMart type). He'd bring something good in return (i.e., starting pitching) that's a much bigger need, and they could sign a cheap backup catcher. I heard a call on MLB on XM yesterday about possibly trading Montero for pitching and the "experts" all thought it was not only a good idea, but very possible given Russell Martin's emergence... this was all outside of anything dealing with Ortiz too. Signing a DH who would eat up a full-time spot on the roster would leave Montero as a part-time LF/back-up C/occasional DH which is a waste of his value.

 

[spockmaster]

you never know what the yanks will live with for offense though, its not like posada was ever that good of a defensive catcher.

 

[kalinecountry]

I would love to see the redsux fan base reaction if the yankees gave 'big ploppi' a 2 or 3 year contract of an extra year than the rsox would offer.
Just like with every other player and manager he would be thrown under the bus, with calls of traitor, and attacks of roid/peds/hgh user after he was always defended as never doing.
I don't know what their plans are with Montero. Probably a combination of DH, catcher, LF? A trade of this highly touted prospect would have to net them a quality pitcher in return, imo.

 

[mhughes0021]

Ortiz and the short porch = ridiculous

 

[kalinecountry]

gardner i can see since another OF is easier to get, but why would they trade montero after signing ortiz? he's by far their best catching prospect and the best catcher they have right now is russell martin. its not like ortiz can catch either. unless you're the twins, you dont just trade good catching prospects on a whim.

As catching prospect without Montero's bat, they are high on austin romine and a sanchez kid in their minors. that doesn't include cervelli.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

you never know what the yanks will live with for offense though, its not like posada was ever that good of a defensive catcher.

I agree somewhat, but keeping a speedy guy who is a good defender like Gardner makes more sense to me than keeping a guy who wouldn't get much playing time in Montero. Especially when Montero has greater trade value and you have no lack of offensive production through the entire order. I'd be willing to bet Montero gets traded if/when Ortiz is signed.

 

[tycobb420]

This would be a pretty smart move for the Yankees for a couple reasons. #1 it gives them a premier DH. #2 it would allow the Yankees to trade Montero or Gardner away for starting pitching help.

#3 takes Ortiz from a divisional opponent