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Fox News GOP debate

Carly Fiorina did ruin HP. It's B-School 101 material ever since. If she were a man, she'd be toast.

But she's got that Hot PTA Mom Real Housewives thing while Hilary looks frumpy and manly. So Carly gets a pass for being an idiot while Clinton gets lampooned for being ugly.


Nice double standard

And for the record, I'd do Carly ...Hilary not so much. But if any of that matters, Palin wouldn't have lost any election ..ever.
 
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Carly Fiorina did ruin HP. It's B-School 101 material ever since. If she were a man, she'd be toast.

But she's got that Hot PTA Mom Real Housewives thing while Hilary looks frumpy and manly. So Carly gets a pass for being an idiot while Clinton gets lampooned for being ugly.


Nice double standard

And for the record, I'd do Carly ...Hilary not so much. But if any of that matters, Palin wouldn't have lost any election ..ever.

Janis Joplin was homely-looking, and she was bullied for it in HS by her classmates of both sexes. Fortunately for her though, she learned that she could sing in an era long before females also needed to be physically attractive divas with trainers and advanced technology to help perfect their voices.

The few exceptions being Lady GaGa and the late Amy Winehouse, the latter who became a member of the "27 Club" along with Joplin. I kinda liked the chicks who were more sexually adventurous, back in my prime, but GaGa's degree of kink would most likely make me shrink.

Hillary was never beautiful or well endowed, but she was reasonably attractive when she was young, much like her daughter Chelsea. I had a crush on Caroline Kennedy when I was a tween, she was <a year younger than me, and she was not particularly pretty or stacked. Carly Fiorina has had a double mastectomy and is barren of children. Makes me tend to think that she has been frigid, and awful in the sack.
 
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At least we know that Bernie has the #blacklivesmatter vote all sewn up. As for the "debate" I'll read the transcripts.
 
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At least we know that Bernie has the #blacklivesmatter vote all sewn up. As for the "debate" I'll read the transcripts.

that's been ugly.

I call BS on the legitimacy of it. I think DNC operatives are "arranging" for those protests to disrupt his events. Look at it... the headline of "Bernie Sanders heckled at rally" gets more ink than his actual speaking events have, and by all accounts, his events have been well-attended with actual supporters.
 
that's been ugly.

I call BS on the legitimacy of it. I think DNC operatives are "arranging" for those protests to disrupt his events. Look at it... the headline of "Bernie Sanders heckled at rally" gets more ink than his actual speaking events have, and by all accounts, his events have been well-attended with actual supporters.

Where is the security for this candidate?
 
Where is the security for this candidate?

the secret service doesn't provide until later in the campaign, and I'm guessing a guy like him - being an actual man of the people - wouldn't consider it in his own.

it's bullshit because Im almost positive he's had a better record on race relations than anyone else the Dems will put up there
 
the secret service doesn't provide until later in the campaign, and I'm guessing a guy like him - being an actual man of the people - wouldn't consider it in his own.

it's bullshit because Im almost positive he's had a better record on race relations than anyone else the Dems will put up there

Yeah, surely a decent guy but I can't sign on for the U.S. being another Sweden. Or Venezuela. Depending on the breaks. At least he is what he says he is, but I think he's misguided.
 
Yeah, surely a decent guy but I can't sign on for the U.S. being another Sweden. Or Venezuela. Depending on the breaks. At least he is what he says he is, but I think he's misguided.

well, we'll keep going the way we've been going then. has been working out great so far.
 
well, we'll keep going the way we've been going then. has been working out great so far.

Well, I think we have been. I submit that "the way we've been going" is a result of the statist policies that have been "progressing" since Wilson was president. Sanders merely wants to ratchet them up even more.

EDIT: Opinion: Hillary has to be elected president to avoid the jail time others have received for mishandling classified information far less recklessly than she has. A symptom of the hubris with which our government is infected. Certainly a legion of staffers will be prosecuted in her stead and she will willingly watch their lives crumble and walk through the remains.
 
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Well, I think we have been. I submit that "the way we've been going" is a result of the statist policies that have been "progressing" since Wilson was president. Sanders merely wants to ratchet them up even more.

EDIT: Opinion: Hillary has to be elected president to avoid the jail time others have received for mishandling classified information far less recklessly than she has. A symptom of the hubris with which our government is infected. Certainly a legion of staffers will be prosecuted in her stead and she will willingly watch their lives crumble and walk through the remains.

we'll see. compare and contrast what happened to David Petraeus with Edward Snowden... stranded indefinitely in Russia because the US revoked his passport.

and while I'd love to see her held accountable for flouting federal law, I wish some of the people going apeshit over this had held prior administrations to the same standard and been consistent in their criticism of those who do this sort of thing.
 
we'll see. compare and contrast what happened to David Petraeus with Edward Snowden... stranded indefinitely in Russia because the US revoked his passport.

and while I'd love to see her held accountable for flouting federal law, I wish some of the people going apeshit over this had held prior administrations to the same standard and been consistent in their criticism of those who do this sort of thing.

I think you know that I think the ideological differences between the power-brokers and life-breakers in Washington D&C are nominal. And you sort of made my point. Hillary seeks the sanctuary of the Ova (sic) Office.
 
I think you know that I think the ideological differences between the power-brokers and life-breakers in Washington D&C are nominal. And you sort of made my point. Hillary seeks the sanctuary of the Ova (sic) Office.

I still don't think, even if she fails to win the office, she gets nothing more than a slap on the wrist for it... then moves comfortably back into some political office arranged by the DNC, joins the other half of the Billary fundraising juggernaut giving speeches to plutocrats around the globe, or she moves to some law firm or lobby joint for insane amounts of money.
 
I still don't think, even if she fails to win the office, she gets nothing more than a slap on the wrist for it... then moves comfortably back into some political office arranged by the DNC, joins the other half of the Billary fundraising juggernaut giving speeches to plutocrats around the globe, or she moves to some law firm or lobby joint for insane amounts of money.

But you and I would have our backs perpetually to the walls of the prison in which we'd be serving time, with the staffers who will certainly pay for her crimes.
 
Well, I think we have been. I submit that "the way we've been going" is a result of the statist policies that have been "progressing" since Wilson was president. Sanders merely wants to ratchet them up even more.

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right... since Reagan took office, we basically stopped enforcing anti-trust laws, allowing corporate consolidation to spiral out of control, eliminating effective competition, resulting in "too big too fail." We've cut tax rates across the board, contributing in part to dramatic income inequality not seen since the 1920's, and citizens with unequal opportunity now, as the insane buying power of the upper classes - particularly the much maligned 1% - essentially makes them nobility. CEO pay has ballooned from 43 times the avg. worker's pay to over 300 times, and often worse (CEO's must be a lot more effective and harder working these days right? wrong.). And a corollary effect of all this consolidation means companies can effectively ship jobs and production overseas, away from First World labor and environmental standards, back toward 1800's-like sweatshops and in some places (particularly SE Asia) veritable slave labor.

But, yeah, tell me again how it's big government "statism" that's out of control...
 
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All that you have mentioned here is a result of statist policies. I'm mildly stunned that you apparently do not recognize this. It's not a Democrat-Republican dynamic in regards to sustaining influence and power at our expense. The Sherman Act is still on the books as are the Clayton and FTC acts, so it's not Reagan's doing that these laws have gone lax since eight administrations have had the chance to enforce them.

What kind of consolidation can you expect should the state own all the property and our talents that create and sustain wealth? What should I be able to demand of you as a result?
 
All that you have mentioned here is a result of statist policies. I'm mildly stunned that you apparently do not recognize this. It's not a Democrat-Republican dynamic in regards to sustaining influence and power at our expense. The Sherman Act is still on the books as are the Clayton and FTC acts, so it's not Reagan's doing that these laws have gone lax since eight administrations have had the chance to enforce them.

What kind of consolidation can you expect should the state own all the property and our talents that create and sustain wealth? What should I be able to demand of you as a result?

Not sure I follow... it was state action that preserved market competition by preventing any player in the market from getting too big. That went out the window in Reagan's administration based on a bunch of BS arguments about US industry being "uncompetitive." (to what?)

you would blame "statism" for that? the state essentially caving to an initiative pushed by big business?
 
I am not advocating the state own any property, although of course, they need some guns, tanks, jets, file cabinets, buildings, etc. to function.

Just saying the state needs to enforce laws effectively in order to preserve market competition, the freedom and opportunity for its citizens, and limit the ability of larger players to unduly affect public policy. not that the latter didn't happen before Reagan, but it certainly wasn't the whole election-for-sale model it is now.
 
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