Fox News GOP debate

[jwlcosu]

It's still very early in the race, but there has to be some concern on the right.

I'm as conservative as they come. By and large I'll tell you there is little concern on the right because we no longer expect to win national elections. For a while longer we can win governorships and statewide elections but national? No way, not even, forget about it. The way we see it, the country has tipped. Oh well.

One thing I'll say that does bug me is this. Yesterday, my wife and I were one conservative couple out of four that got together to play mixed doubles tennis. The other three couples are great friends and great libs. During the post-match cook-out/social bit, the conversation turned to politics, as it often does. When Fiorina's name came up the lib ladies scoffed and one of them, a VP at a big Pharmaceutical, said "oh, you mean the one that wrecked HP?"

My response was that Carly had a tough go at HP and she got fired. People get fired. On the other hand, if you've listened to her speak about that time and that circumstance, she handles it pretty well. And she'll answer every question thrown her way. I further said it's great that you want to hold Fiorina accountable. People should be accountable. But are you willing to hold Hillary accountable? "Accountable for what," she/they said.

Says it all, if you ask me.

 

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I'm as conservative as they come.

By and large I'll tell you there is little concern on the right because we no longer expect to win national elections. For a while longer we can win governorships and statewide elections but national? No way, not even, forget about it. The way we see it, the country has tipped. Oh well.

One thing I'll say that does bug me is this. Yesterday, my wife and I were one conservative couple out of four that got together to play mixed doubles tennis. The other three couples are great friends and great libs. During the post-match cook-out/social bit, the conversation turned to politics, as it often does. When Fiorina's name came up the lib ladies scoffed and one of them, a VP at a big Pharmaceutical, said "oh, you mean the one that wrecked HP?"

My response was that Carly had a tough go at HP and she got fired. People get fired. On the other hand, if you've listened to her speak about that time and that circumstance, she handles it pretty well. And she'll answer every question thrown her way. I further said it's great that you want to hold Fiorina accountable. People should be accountable. But are you willing to hold Hillary accountable? "Accountable for what," she/they said.

Says it all, if you ask me.

Sp basically you're as bad as they are. First you start making excuses, then you pull the bait and switch and bring in Hillary.

Says it all about the GOP to me, they love to point fingers but deflect quickly when the fingers go their way. I remember a similar conversation with some of my more conservative/red voting neighbors (we weren't playing tennis) and they kept going on about how sorry they felt for the future generations because Obama and the Dems will have bankrupted them over silly little trivial things like affordable healthcare. But ask about the trillions of dollars spent fighting wars by the previous administration and they don't want to hear any of that. My neighbor actually used the line "Well, Freedom isn't free", and I replied that healthcare wasn't either, he then switched the conversation to how terrible the Tigers had become.

Game, Set, Match.

 

[Michchamp]

Really the only thing he has said (aside from the whole Mexican immigrants are rapists and murderers) is he "Wants to make America great again". Then he goes on to say how we used to be so great, but now we are letting China and other countries take our greatness. What he hasn't said is how he's going to take that greatness back.

He one of those guys with a great campaign slogan, the problem is it's hollow. Like under his hair.

His xenophobic or racist schtick is hilarious because it's so uninformed and just plain wrong, ALL the time, yet not that far from what the typical Jdilco/Mitchcrap/FoxNews viewer really thinks.

From another Taibbi piece on him called "The 47 Funniest Things About Donald Trump."...

28. "When he asked when have we beaten Japan at anything."
–@suzan189

Another highlight of Trump's announcement speech. Bloomberg commented:
"'Our country is in serious trouble. We don't have victories any more,' Trump said. 'When did we beat Japan at anything? he asked, citing auto sales but apparently forgetting World War II."
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[turok]

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28. "WheWhen did we beat Japan at anything? he asked, citing auto sales but apparently forgetting World War II."
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Japan had little if any legacy costs built into their vehicles, and unlike the idiots who trumpet our so-called free markets, Japan protects their manufacturing and industry.

 

[turok]

Teh Trumperor is a sociopath's wet dream. Beholden to no one b/c he is independently wealthy, blatantly brusque, audaciously arrogant, impulsively irreverent, errantly erratic, pompously petulant, extravagantly egotistical, maliciously misogynist, rashly reckless, flippantly feckless, brashly bloviating, boldly bigoted, crassly critical, vengefully vindictive, utterly unpeturbed, empathy empty, coldly calculating, insensitively intolerant, and possesses all of the necessary bombastic & narcissistic notoriety to remain a very popular and extremely controversial candidate. There are tens of millions in the US who consider the above to be "virtues"

Teh Donald epitomizes the disdain and disgust that many, if not most nations consider "Murka" to be like, except that he does not have a gun in one hand and a Bible in the other.

 

[tinselwolverine]

That was quite a bit of alliteration.

 

[turok]

That was quite a bit of alliteration.

Inspired by the late Spiro Agnew.

Or Dr. Smith.

Forgot how good he was at it, and how many that he came up with...some actually made me lol.

http://irwinallen.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Smith's_Insults

 

[Michchamp]

Inspired by the late Spiro Agnew.

what was that line of his? nittering nabobs of something?

 

[Gulo Blue]

Thumbs up for the alliteration post.

As people continue to talk about Trump, I'm not seeing Trump as a more realistic candidate, I'm seeing the republican primary as fake.

 

[Monster]

IMO, the only person in the Republican party that has an actual chance of winning the White House is John Kasich. He has the typical annoying Conservative qualities, but I think he would take most of the independent votes over Clinton or even Bernie. He's much more moderate than the rest of the Repubs, but conservative enough that the party could still rally around him if he somehow won the nomination. It helps that he's not crazy like most of the nominees. I also don't think he'd destroy this country and set us back twenty years.

That said, he has almost no chance at winning the nomination.

 

[Monster]

IMO, the only person in the Republican party that has an actual chance of winning the White House is John Kasich. He has the typical annoying Conservative qualities, but I think he would take most of the independent votes over Clinton or even Bernie. He's much more moderate than the rest of the Repubs, but conservative enough that the party could still rally around him if he somehow won the nomination. It helps that he's not crazy like most of the nominees. I also don't think he'd destroy this country and set us back twenty years.

That said, he has almost no chance at winning the nomination.

 

[Gulo Blue]

IMO, the only person in the Republican party that has an actual chance of winning the White House is John Kasich. He has the typical annoying Conservative qualities, but I think he would take most of the independent votes over Clinton or even Bernie. He's much more moderate than the rest of the Repubs, but conservative enough that the party could still rally around him if he somehow won the nomination. It helps that he's not crazy like most of the nominees. I also don't think he'd destroy this country and set us back twenty years.

That said, he has almost no chance at winning the nomination.

I did, during the bit I watched, think something to the effect of "What are the odds the most reasonable sounding one would be from Ohio." It looks like he got on a few people's radar.

LINK TO ANIMATED DATA

 

[turok]

what was that line of his? nittering nabobs of something?

"Nattering Nabobs of Negativity"

...also Pusillanimous Pussyfooters..haha!!

 

[tinselwolverine]

He's much more moderate than the rest of the Repubs, but conservative enough that the party could still rally around him if he somehow won the nomination. It helps that he's not crazy like most of the nominees. I also don't think he'd destroy this country and set us back twenty years.

That said, he has almost no chance at winning the nomination.

I very respectfully disagree with this.

When the sound and the fury subsides, I suspect that Kasich will come out looking very strong very adult and very leaderly like.

If I were to have one question for John Kasich, it would be "what the fuck took you so long?"

 

[Michchamp]

"Nattering Nabobs of Negativity"

...also Pusillanimous Pussyfooters..haha!!

did he ever do ones to go along with the words "indicted" and "resignation"?

 

[tinselwolverine]

did he ever do ones to go along with the words "indicted" and "resignation"?

I think "indignantly" and "reluctant."

 

[jwlcosu]

Sp basically you're as bad as they are. First you start making excuses, then you pull the bait and switch and bring in Hillary.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because its probably rare that you're ever in a social situation but trust me, it wasn't me that brought Hillary into the discussion.

 

[Thumb]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because its probably rare that you're ever in a social situation but trust me, it wasn't me that brought Hillary into the discussion.

Then you told your story poorly. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that because of your mixed doubles tennis match you were low on electrolytes and probably forgot to take your Geritol that morning leaving you slightly more addled than the usual.

 

[turok]

did he ever do ones to go along with the words "indicted" and "resignation"?

Ignoble invitee who amiably abdicated upon being wistfully whapped on the wrist with merely a $10K fine and 3 months proby.

 

[Mitchrapp]

His xenophobic or racist schtick is hilarious because it's so uninformed and just plain wrong, ALL the time, yet not that far from what the typical Jdilco/Mitchcrap/FoxNews viewer really thinks.

From another Taibbi piece on him called "The 47 Funniest Things About Donald Trump."...

28. "When he asked when have we beaten Japan at anything."
?@suzan189

Another highlight of Trump's announcement speech. Bloomberg commented:
"'Our country is in serious trouble. We don't have victories any more,' Trump said. 'When did we beat Japan at anything? he asked, citing auto sales but apparently forgetting World War II."
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You have no idea what I think..