Game 153 Tigers vs. white sox September 20, 2019

[tomdalton22]

Well then it isn't impossible in 2020 by that assertion.

That is correct...it is less likely, but not impossible.

For 2021, my thinking is that MAYBE 2 of the 5 pitchers come through and are pretty good. Zimmerman comes off the books so MAYBE they dabble in free agency a little bit more seriously (not crazy, but not just 30+ year old turds on one year contracts). It's still a very long shot.

Your 2024 prediction is much more likely. That's the year that Miggy is gone, the young pitchers will be in their prime and Al should be fired by then.

 

[Rebbiv]

I doubt 2 pitchers are going to gain much in wins when this team cannot score. The only Tiger in 2019 with an OBP above .330 is Miguel Cabrera.

Minimum 100 PAs

2019 = 1
2018 = 2
2017 = 6

2016 = 6

2015 = 5

2014 = 5
2013 = 8
2012 = 7
2011 = 6
2010 = 7
2009 = 5

2008 = 9

2007 = 7
2006 = 6

2005 = 6
2004 = 10
2003 = 2
2002 = 3

BOLD= below .500

I think we get back to .500 when we have 5 or more guys who can sustain an OBP at or above .330. With this team, outside of Miguel, there is virtually no one who has done it at the MLB level for any amount. Only a few (e.g. Stewart), has done it consistently in the minors.

Our extremely bad teams had 3 or less. Some had 8-10, but they lacked the pitching. There is a point were you can have all the pitching in the world, but if you don't get on base and score runs, you aren't going to win. You also cannot win without pitching. So that is the balance at lot of teams struggle with. And then there is depth. We could get a very good OBP hitter and have them get hurt.

Again, about 5 years to even sniff .500 (2024). About 7 years to be playoff worthy.