Game 17: Lions @ Packers *Sunday Night* Thread

[grandy]

Detroit Lions (8-8) @ Green Bay Packers (8-8)

Line : GB -4.5
O/U : 49

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Injury Report
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Lions
Out
G Kayode Awosika (ankle)

Questionable
FB Jason Cabinda (knee)
C Frank Ragnow (foot)
CB Jeff Okudah (elbow) - New injury
S DeShon Elliott (shoulder)
DT Michael Brockers (ankle)


Packers
Questionable
TE Josiah Deguara (calf)


Series History
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The Lions are 74-103-7 against the Packers
Last Game: 11/6/2022, Lions 15 Packers 9
Last Game in Green Bay: 9/20/2021, Packers 35 Lions 17
Last Win in Green Bay: 12/30/2018, Lions 31 Packers 0
Recent Games: The Packers have won 5 of the last 7 meetings

 

[grandy]

Football Outsiders Stats

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Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Detroit 7.2% (9th)
Green Bay 4.8% (12th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Detroit 13.4% (7th)
Green Bay 9.4% (9th)

Offense DVOA
Detroit 12.7% (6th)
Green Bay 7.6% (11th)

Defense DVOA
Green Bay 2.4% (18th)
Detroit 7.8% (28th)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 2.3% (8th)
Green Bay -0.5% (17th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Detroit 15.4% (5th)
Green Bay 8.8% (8th)

Pass Offense
Detroit 29.1% (5th)
Green Bay 11.8% (15th)

Rush Offense
Green Bay 7.9% (3rd)
Detroit -1.5% (15th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Green Bay 0.8% (18th)
Detroit 5.7% (25th)

Pass Defense
Green Bay -5.1% (10th)
Detroit 10.8% (22nd)

Rush Defense
Detroit 3.7% (27th)
Green Bay 10.2% (31st)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Green Bay 4.90 (2nd)
Detroit 4.66 (6th)

Power Success
Green Bay 68% (15th)
Detroit 63% (22nd)

Stuffed
Green Bay 13% (1st)
Detroit 18% (18th)

2nd Level Yards
Green Bay 1.46 (1st)
Detroit 1.19 (17th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.94 (9th)
Green Bay 0.66 (20th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 4.2% (2nd)
Green Bay 5.7% (7th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.43 (19th)
Green Bay 5.13 (32nd)

Power Success
Green Bay 66% (11th)
Detroit 69% (18th)

Stuffed
Detroit 20% (8th)
Green Bay 13% (30th)

2nd Level Yards
Detroit 1.32 (23rd)
Green Bay 1.44 (29th)

Open Field Yards
Green Bay 0.80 (19th)
Detroit 1.17 (30th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Green Bay 6.9% (20th)
Detroit 6.7% (21st)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Green Bay 0.79 (13th)
Detroit -0.15 (17th)

Net Points/Drive
Detroit 0.24 (8th)
Green Bay -0.05 (15th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Green Bay 0.010 (12th)
Detroit 0.009 (13th)

Offense Yards/Drive
Detroit 38.18 (3rd)
Green Bay 34.26 (11th)

Offense Points/Drive
Detroit 2.61 (3rd)
Green Bay 2.06 (15th)

Offense DSR
Detroit 0.763 (3rd)
Green Bay 0.720 (12th)

Defense Yards/Drive
Green Bay 33.48 (21st)
Detroit 38.33 (32nd)

Defense Points/Drive
Green Bay 2.11 (22nd)
Detroit 2.37 (31st)

Defense DSR
Green Bay 0.711 (19th)
Detroit 0.755 (32nd)

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I can?t remember a game I?ve wanted the Lions to win more than I want them to win this one. Playoffs or not?..keeping the Packers out of the playoffs and getting to watch Rodgers pout after would be an awesome consolation.

That said?..

Packers 34
Lions 27

 

[LKP]

28 24 Lions with Houston strip sack to stop packers on final drive

Run the ball well and Lions win this thing

 

[503]

28 24 Lions with Houston strip sack to stop packers on final drive

Run the ball well and Lions win this thing

I can see that, and then the phantom flag comes out and gives Rodgers 15 yards and a new set of downs.

 

[grandy]

28 24 Lions with Houston strip sack to stop packers on final drive

Run the ball well and Lions win this thing

That would be nice, but since this is at Lambeau he would be held with no flag.


That said, I'm unusually optimistic about this one. I think it's going to be a massacre - Lions 42 Packers 20.

 

[mhughes0021]

I think Seattle wins killing our motivation for the game.

Packers 35 Detroit 24

Our defense is just terrible. We have not been playing well on the road.

 

[biggunsbob]

How many flags will Detroit have compared to Green Bay ? We shall see.

 

[mhughes0021]

Wow Tennessee just got screwed over lol. Hand was definitely coming forward. Jax in playoffs.

 

[biggunsbob]

Wow Tennessee just got screwed over lol. Hand was definitely coming forward. Jax in playoffs.

Looked like it to me too. I just don?t know why the titans were so aggressive down deep in their own end? The titans defense was playing lights out against Lawrence. I guess the running back did whiff on helping to block. Qb never saw the blitz that hit him.

 

[tigermud]

So looks to me like if rams win worst pick the lions will have now is then 7 vs 6.that?s manageable go rams!

 

[boogerlovejoy]

C?mon Baker?.you fucking piece of shit!!!

 

[tinselwolverine]

What the hell happens if the Rams and Seahawks end the tied?

 

[thehippo73]

What the hell happens if the Rams and Seahawks end the tied?

Winner gets in for our game

 

[503]

So looks to me like if rams win worst pick the lions will have now is then 7 vs 6.that?s manageable go rams!

Fuck the pick. Give me a win and we?re in game!

 

[JScottWriter]

Even if Seattle wins I would love the Lions to keep the Packers out. Just saw the Rams took the lead by 7.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Baker Mayfield sucks ass.

 

[JScottWriter]

Damn it, Seahawks just tied it at 13.

 

[tigermud]

What the hell happens if the Rams and Seahawks end the tied?

what if they all tied, rams Seattle lions packers

 

[JScottWriter]

Rams take lead 16-13.