Game 4: Chiefs @ Lions Thread

[grandy]

Kansas City Chiefs (3-0) @ Detroit Lions (2-0-1)

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Injury Report
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Lions
DT Mike Daniels (foot) - OUT
WR Danny Amendola (chest) - Questionable
DT Da?Shawn Hand (elbow) - Questionable
CB Darius Slay (hamstring) - Questionable
QB Matthew Stafford (hip) - Questionable

Chiefs
OT Eric Fisher (groin) - OUT
WR Tyreek Hill (shoulder) - OUT
RB Damien Williams (knee) - OUT


Series History
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The Lions are 5-8 against the Chiefs
Last Game: 11/1/2015, Chiefs 45 Lions 10
Last Game in Detroit: 9/18/2011, Lions 48 Chiefs 3
Last Loss in Detroit: 11/28/1996, Chiefs 28 Lions 24
Recent Games: The Lions have won 2 of the last 3 meetings

 

[grandy]

Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Kansas City 41.2% (4th)
Detroit 9.5% (11th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Kansas City 23.9% (2nd)
Detroit 5.2% (13th)

Offense DVOA
Kansas City 46.1% (2nd)
Detroit 1.6% (13th)

Defense DVOA
Detroit -10.0% (10th)
Kansas City 5.1% (21st)

Special Teams DVOA
Kansas City 0.1% (11th)
Detroit -2.1% (18th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Kansas City 25.7% (1st)
Detroit 3.7% (12th)

Pass Offense
Kansas City 89.5% (1st)
Detroit 42.9% (6th)

Rush Offense
Kansas City -11.9% (17th)
Detroit -23.6% (26th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Detroit -1.8% (14th)
Kansas City 3.4% (22nd)

Pass Defense
Kansas City -6.3% (9th)
Detroit -5.1% (10th)

Rush Defense
Detroit -17.4% (10th)
Kansas City 22.0% (32nd)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 3.65 (26th)
Kansas City 3.53 (27th)

Power Success
Kansas City 63% (19th)
Detroit 57% (21st)

Stuffed
Kansas City 23% (24th)
Detroit 27% (28th)

2nd Level Yards
Kansas City 0.89 (24th)
Detroit 0.81 (29th)

Open Field Yards
Kansas City 1.25 (8th)
Detroit 0.55 (19th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 2.7% (3rd)
Kansas City 3.7% (4th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.62 (23rd)
Kansas City 5.68 (32nd)

Power Success
Detroit 71% (20th)
Kansas City 75% (21st)

Stuffed
Detroit 12% (30th)
Kansas City 9% (31st)

2nd Level Yards
Detroit 1.21 (18th)
Kansas City 1.82 (32nd)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.70 (14th)
Kansas City 1.40 (30th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 6.7% (18th)
Kansas City 6.1% (20th)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Kansas City 7.77 (7th)
Detroit -1.60 (20th)

Net Points/Drive
Kansas City 1.12 (4th)
Detroit 0.07 (15th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Kansas City 0.048 (9th)
Detroit 0.001 (18th)

Offense Yards/Drive
Kansas City 46.94 (3rd)
Detroit 30.31 (21st)

Offense Points/Drive
Kansas City 3.26 (3rd)
Detroit 1.71 (21st)

Offense DSR
Kansas City 0.798 (4th)
Detroit 0.674 (21st)

Defense Yards/Drive
Detroit 31.92 (16th)
Kansas City 39.17 (26th)

Defense Points/Drive
Detroit 1.65 (10th)
Kansas City 2.13 (19th)

Defense DSR
Detroit 0.674 (10th)
Kansas City 0.750 (23rd)

 

[kalinecountry]

Can Patricia stop Mahomes?
One of the most underrated matchups in Week 4 is a battle of two undefeated teams, as Patrick Mahomes and the 3-0 Chiefs will visit Ford Field to take on an upstart 2-0-1 Lions squad led by head coach Matt Patricia and his better-than-expected defense.
The Chiefs have been nearly unstoppable again this season, as Mahomes leads the NFL in deep passing yards (436), deep TDs (6), and deep completions (11).

The Lions hope to counter the Chiefs with a cohesive defensive back group, as their top five DBs have all played 85% or more of the Lions' snaps and have combined to allow a 35.6 passer rating on deep attempts this season.
The Lions' first three opponents have avoided targeting Quandre Diggs altogether. Diggs, who aligns at deep safety 63% of the time, has been targeted on just 6 of his 122 coverage snaps (4.9%), the sixth-lowest rate among all defensive backs in the NFL. It will certainly take a collective team effort to slow down the Chiefs in Week 4.

Mecole Hardman (@MecoleHardman4) reached 21.74 MPH on his 83-yard receiving TD, the fastest speed reached by a ball carrier on a scoring play this season.
Hardman had 8.3 yards of separation from the nearest defender when the pass arrived.
NextGenerationStats

 

[boogerlovejoy]

We don’t run the ball well tomorrow we don’t win. We have to control the clock and win the TOP battle.....otherwise KC is going to hang a 50spot on us.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2019...rs-key-to-victory-over-the-kansas-city-chiefs
5 Detroit Lions players key to victory over the Kansas City Chiefs.
These five players need to come up BIG if the Lions are going to pull of a Week 4 upset.
POD

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2019...thread-who-is-the-key-to-defeating-the-chiefs
Who is the key to defeating the Chiefs?
It all comes down to this one guy.
POD

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/28/report-matthew-staffords-issue-is-his-back-not-his-hip/
Matthew Stafford's issue is his back, not his hip.
LionsWire

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/28/behind-enemy-lines-with-chiefs-wire-to-preview-week-4/
Behind Enemy Lines with Chiefs Wire to preview Week 4.
LionsWire

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2019...rint-keys-to-a-lions-victory-over-the-chiefs/
The Honolulu Blueprint: Keys to a Lions victory over the Chiefs.
LionsWire

https://sidelionreport.com/2019/09/28/lions-chiefs-3-players-watch-sunday/
Lions vs. Chiefs: 3 players to watch this Sunday.
SLR

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-week-4-five-rookie-matchups-to-watch
NFL Week 4: Five rookie matchups to watch. Hockenson here.
PFF

 

[manchild98]

They are just better than us. I can't see us winning this game because we just don't get enough pressure on the QB with our front four. We obviously have to control the clock, run the ball extremely well and create some turnovers. Special teams has to be on point too.

 

[sggatecl]

They are just better than us. I can't see us winning this game because we just don't get enough pressure on the QB with our front four. We obviously have to control the clock, run the ball extremely well and create some turnovers. Special teams has to be on point too.

This has been the biggest disappointment so far in this young season. Even more so than the lack of a consistent running game.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

They are just better than us. I can't see us winning this game because we just don't get enough pressure on the QB with our front four. We obviously have to control the clock, run the ball extremely well and create some turnovers. Special teams has to be on point too.

And how often do all those factors come together in the same game......never.

KC rolls.....45-24

 

[sggatecl]

And how often do all those factors come together in the same game......never.

KC rolls.....45-24

I'm with this. Only I'll say 45-28. I predict an almost exact repeat of the Lions/Saints playoff game in 2011.

 

[turok]

Hand has been out since game one of the preseason...he has been missed on the DL...how bad is that elbow injury anyway, that he misses going on 8 weeks?

Lions still do not have a decent complement to their RB Kerryon Johnson, after cutting Anderson, and he is gonna get worn down quick being tasked with the vast bulk of carries...even moreso than last season, if not suffer season ending injury again, b/c they don't have anyone else who can bust through stacked dlines for short redzone or 1st down yardage.

 

[grandy]

I say there's probably a 20% chance the Lions don't get murdered this game.

 

[kdp1980]

First game of the season that I get to watch from my couch, and I'm expecting the worst possible outcome, lol. Prove me wrong Lions

 

[tigermud]

Stafford some sort of undisclosed reason for a sudden hip injury but expected to play but for how long?

This will be a blow out

44-17 KC

 

[brewer229]

I say there's probably a 20% chance the Lions don't get murdered this game.

I like your optimism. I wish I could get to that level.

 

[tigermud]

LOL former packer says the reason the lions have the best home field advantage in the NFL is a result of ford field having no energy

Feels like your walking onto a practice field, they used to game plan against us by creating a dull boring atmosphere guy really roasted the shit out of us


https://www.clickondetroit.com/spor...s-very-very-quiet-there-s-no-energy-in-there-

 

[turok]

"Any Given Sunday" ain't if it involves the Lions, the consensus declares!

 

[turok]

LOL former packer says the reason the lions have the best home field advantage in the NFL is a result of ford field having no energy

Feels like your walking onto a practice field, they used to game plan against us by creating a dull boring atmosphere guy really roasted the shit out of us


https://www.clickondetroit.com/spor...s-very-very-quiet-there-s-no-energy-in-there-

Good thing that he was too young to play @ the Silverdome, then.

Its a freaking indoor facility, not an old bandbox like Lambeau Field.

That posted, I've always felt that having a homedome in a cold winter region was a decidedly negative drawback, not a benefit. Players never seem perform as well in inclement weather on the road @ outdoor facilities, than those who don't.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

No Slay, Hand, Daniels or Amendola.....

Ouch.

 

[tigermud]

Hmmm speaking of slay

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...ay-thinks-vikings-have-best-chant/2305871001/

Maybe all this time all these years the problem has been the fight tune! LOL

 

[turok]

Hmmm speaking of slay

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...ay-thinks-vikings-have-best-chant/2305871001/

Maybe all this time all these years the problem has been the fight tune!

LOL

Nah...the problem was always William Clay Ford, and the lousy GMs who he hired and retained even after they proved beyond all doubt how much they absolutely sucked. But a 180 doesn't happen overnight, will take a year or two more to get his stink off of the franchise entirely. First step is to remove his fucking initials from the Lions' uni sleeves.

Dump "Gridiron Heroes" and replace it with the White Stripes "Seven Nation Army" ..as after all Jack White is from SW Detroit.