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Game 5: Lions @ Packers *Monday Night* Thread

grandy

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Detroit Lions (2-1-1) @ Green Bay Packers (4-1)

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Injury Report
Link (from Saturday)

Lions
DT Mike Daniels (foot) - OUT
CB Amani Oruwariye (knee) - OUT
DT Da?Shawn Hand (elbow) - Questionable
DT A?Shawn Robinson (knee) - Questionable
WR Danny Amendola (chest) - Questionable
S Quandre Diggs (hamstring) - Questionable
CB Darius Slay (hamstring) - Questionable
TE T.J. Hockenson (concussion) - Questionable

Packers
WR Davante Adams (toe) - OUT
S Darnell Savage (ankle) - OUT
TE Robert Tonyan (hip) - OUT
CB Tony Brown (hamstring) - Doubtful


Series History
Link
The Lions are 72-98-7 against the Packers
Last Game: 12/30/2018, Lions 31 Packers 0
Last Loss: 11/1/2017, Packers 31 Lions 24
Last Loss in Green Bay: 9/25/2016, Packers 34 Lions 27
Recent Games: The Lions have won the last 4 meetings
 
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Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Green Bay 12.8% (8th)
Detroit 7.5% (11th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Green Bay 8.9% (9th)
Detroit 5.2% (13th)

Offense DVOA
Green Bay 6.8% (9th)
Detroit 1.2% (17th)

Defense DVOA
Green Bay -6.1% (9th)
Detroit -4.0% (12th)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 2.3% (8th)
Green Bay -0.1% (14th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Green Bay 8.4% (7th)
Detroit 3.1% (14th)

Pass Offense
Detroit 37.8% (4th)
Green Bay 23.7% (9th)

Rush Offense
Green Bay 5.3% (9th)
Detroit -22.8% (27th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Green Bay -1.3% (12th)
Detroit -0.9% (13th)

Pass Defense
Green Bay -16.6% (5th)
Detroit 0.8% (12th)

Rush Defense
Detroit -11.1% (14th)
Green Bay 6.1% (28th)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.32 (18th)
Green Bay 4.17 (23rd)

Power Success
Detroit 50% (25th)
Green Bay 50% (25th)

Stuffed
Detroit 24% (26th)
Green Bay 24% (27th)

2nd Level Yards
Green Bay 1.20 (16th)
Detroit 1.09 (24th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 1.29 (7th)
Green Bay 0.35 (26th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 5.0% (7th)
Green Bay 5.7% (12th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.41 (16th)
Green Bay 5.44 (32nd)

Power Success
Detroit 69% (20th)
Green Bay 91% (30th)

Stuffed
Detroit 15% (26th)
Green Bay 12% (30th)

2nd Level Yards
Detroit 1.06 (9th)
Green Bay 1.43 (29th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.88 (20th)
Green Bay 1.03 (24th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Green Bay 8.5% (8th)
Detroit 5.7% (24th)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Green Bay -0.54 (18th)
Detroit -2.72 (22nd)

Net Points/Drive
Green Bay 0.47 (9th)
Detroit 0.04 (18th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Green Bay 0.008 (16th)
Detroit -0.008 (19th)

Offense Yards/Drive
Detroit 32.45 (18th)
Green Bay 29.90 (23rd)

Offense Points/Drive
Green Bay 2.02 (15th)
Detroit 1.91 (20th)

Offense DSR
Detroit 0.702 (18th)
Green Bay 0.698 (20th)

Defense Yards/Drive
Green Bay 30.43 (12th)
Detroit 35.17 (21st)

Defense Points/Drive
Green Bay 1.55 (7th)
Detroit 1.87 (10th)

Defense DSR
Green Bay 0.690 (9th)
Detroit 0.710 (15th)
 
mhughes0021 said:
Didn't expect to see savage out...
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Adams and Savage out.... Nice... I'm so pumped for this game after waiting so many days between games... Usually hate the early bye, but it feels like it came just when we needed it honestly...Hopefully we keep playing like we have and the lay off doesn't fuck with us.
 
With Adams out, GB has no offensive weapons. Lions should win this game unless Matt turns the ball over.
 
Me waiting for the next Lions game to start:

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tomdalton22 said:
With Adams out, GB has no offensive weapons. Lions should win this game unless Matt turns the ball over.
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Aaron Rodgers, in Lambeau, Monday night.

Not sure how we SHOULD win this game......but I agree having Adams out helps.
 
Don't have a great feeling about this one. Feels like the fanbase in general is getting a little overconfident. Whenever that happens the Lions have a way of bringing us back down to reality.

Shutting down the run game should be #1 priority. Aaron Jones killed the Cowboys last week. I'll take my chances with Aaron Rodgers being forced to sling it all over without Adams to help.
 
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UMRules06 said:
Shutting down the run game should be #1 priority. Aaron Jones killed the Cowboys last week. I'll take my chances with Aaron Rodgers being forced to sling it all over without Adams to help.
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Absolutely

The Lions have been mediocre at best against the run so far, this is not a favorable matchup, need better performances on the D-Line (especially Snacks). I know Rodgers can make anyone look good but the healthy receiving threats on GB are nothing special. Cannot stumble early in this game to put GB in control.
 
Snacks will have a monster game I’m starting the lions D lions will win tonight
 
Man I hope we can keep winning against Green Bay!


2018
@ Green Bay 31-0 win.
@ Detroit 31-23 win.
2017
@ Detroit 35-11 win.
@ Green Bay 30-17 win
2016
@ Detroit 31-24 Lost.
@ Green Bay 34-27 Lost.
2015
@ Detroit 27-23 Lost.
@ Green Bay 18-16 win.
2014
@ Green Bay 30-20 Lost.
@ Detroit 19-7 win.
2013
@ Detroit 40-10 win.
@ Green Bay 22-9 Lost.
 
I am not sold on the Lions as a good team. They beat a struggling Philly team, terrible Chargers team and lost to a Chiefs team that has lost 2 straight.
 
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This year feels strange, the Lions don’t seem exceptional or lacking in any area, 10-20 rank in nearly every statistical category, but they look like they could hang with any team. I frequently hear “superior game planning” brought up on the PODcast and there may be some truth to it.

In the past the Lions were inconsistently (and frustratingly) mediocre, now it’s more consistently average to slightly above.
 
Diggs, Hand & Daniels out

Diggs is a bit of a surprise but honestly we don?t lose much in Tavon Wilson

Hand must have contracted EEE.....getting that guy in the lineup is like finding a bad picture of Elizabeth Hurley.....

Daniels is a pussy
 
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grandy said:
This year feels strange, the Lions don?t seem exceptional or lacking in any area, 10-20 rank in nearly every statistical category, but they look like they could hang with any team. I frequently hear ?superior game planning? brought up on the PODcast and there may be some truth to it.

In the past the Lions were inconsistently (and frustratingly) mediocre, now it?s more consistently average to slightly above.
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Raising the bar SLOWLY since 1957!
 
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