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Game 9: Lions @ Bears Thread

grandy

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Detroit Lions (3-5) @ Chicago Bears (5-3)


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ESPN
Windy City Gridiron


Injury Report
Link (from Friday)

Lions
G T.J. Lang (neck) - OUT
CB Darius Slay (knee) - OUT
LB Eli Harold (shoulder) - Doubtful
DE Ezekiel Ansah (shoulder) - Questionable
LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin (neck) - Questionable
RB Kerryon Johnson (ankle) - Questionable
TE Luke Willson (shoulder) - Questionable

Bears
TE Dion Sims (concussion) - OUT
DL Bilal Nichols (knee) - Limited


Series History
Link
The Lions are 74-97-5 against the Bears
Last Game: 12/16/2017, Lions 20 Bears 10
Last Game in Chicago: 11/19/2017, Lions 27 Bears 24
Last Loss: 10/2/2016, Bears 17 Lions 14
Recent Games: The Lions have won 9 of the last 10 meetings
 
Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Chicago 22.1% (4th)
Detroit -23.4% (29th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Chicago 22.4% (4th)
Detroit -19.3% (27th)

Offense DVOA
Chicago 6.6% (10th)
Detroit -2.6% (18th)

Defense DVOA
Chicago -18.2% (1st)
Detroit 17.5% (29th)

Special Teams DVOA
Chicago -2.7% (26th)
Detroit -3.3% (28th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Chicago 7.8% (10th)
Detroit -0.4% (18th)

Pass Offense
Chicago 17.5% (14th)
Detroit 5.9% (21st)

Rush Offense
Chicago 5.0% (7th)
Detroit -8.4% (17th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Chicago -17.7% (1st)
Detroit 17.0% (29th)

Pass Defense
Chicago -11.2% (4th)
Detroit 31.6% (30th)

Rush Defense
Chicago -28.3% (2nd)
Detroit 2.5% (28th)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.23 (18th)
Chicago 3.99 (24th)

Power Success
Detroit 71% (13th)
Chicago 70% (16th)

Stuffed
Detroit 19.4% (17th)
Chicago 21.2% (22nd)

2nd Level Yards
Detroit 1.13 (20th)
Chicago 0.99 (27th)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 1.02 (9th)
Chicago 0.56 (22nd)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Chicago 6.8% (14th)
Detroit 7.2% (15th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Chicago 3.99 (12th)
Detroit 4.90 (28th)

Power Success
Detroit 56% (5th)
Chicago 56% (6th)

Stuffed
Chicago 19.4% (18th)
Detroit 13.5% (30th)

2nd Level Yards
Chicago 0.86 (1st)
Detroit 1.34 (22nd)

Open Field Yards
Chicago 0.31 (4th)
Detroit 1.65 (32nd)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 10.0% (1st)
Chicago 7.6% (10th)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Chicago 7.32 (2nd)
Detroit -1.04 (20th)

Net Points/Drive
Chicago 0.86 (3rd)
Detroit -0.29 (24th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Chicago 0.084 (1st)
Detroit -0.018 (22nd)

Offense Yards/Drive
Detroit 35.94 (9th)
Chicago 34.77 (11th)

Offense Points/Drive
Chicago 2.35 (11th)
Detroit 2.15 (13th)

Offense DSR
Chicago 0.729 (12th)
Detroit 0.728 (13th)

Defense Yards/Drive
Chicago 27.45 (2nd)
Detroit 36.97 (27th)

Defense Points/Drive
Chicago 1.49 (1st)
Detroit 2.44 (27th)

Defense DSR
Chicago 0.645 (1st)
Detroit 0.747 (27th)
 
Key to scoring on the Bears is short throws. Their pass rush is too good to do what we did last week. Take the underneath stuff....run the ball well and take a shot here and there....preferably off play action.

We try to do a bunch of 7 step drops and the Bears might get 13 sacks.

We can get to Trubisky....I don’t think he’s that good. His stats probably get more of a hike then any QB in football because of the run after catch production they get. Cohen is a monster in the open field and the Bears screen game is legit. We need to be ready for that and have an answer.....or the Bears might end up with a number of 40+ yards plays.

All told....

Bears 24
Lions 20
 
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Lions are going to get run over. Cooter will be fired Monday though
 
Slay out? This may end up looking like the Chicago-Tampa Bay game. We're not going to stop the run, because we haven't all year. By not stopping the run, it's going to give Trubinsky easy play action passes that Lawson/Tabor are just not good enough to recognize. The Bears are going to score a lot, and it's going to look easy.

Offensively, we should expect to go nowhere. Mack is back, and they have arguably the best defense in the league. Stafford is going to be under pressure all day (Lang out again, though I expect the O-line to look better), Johnson may still be slowed by his ankle, and it's a recipe for consistent 3 and outs.

I'm not sure it would even matter if we had a different O coordinator tomorrow, but if a bad loss gets Cooter fired I'll consider the game a success.
 
Bears 38
Lions 20

Updated injury report

Lions fan base: pessimistic
TigerMud: heathy scratch inactive
 
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We'll see how big their stones are for this game. The team getting raked through the coals for 2 weeks now. Especially Stafford. Time to put up or stfu.
 
tonyballs said:
We'll see how big their stones are for this game. The team getting raked through the coals for 2 weeks now. Especially Stafford. Time to put up or stfu.
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Yep. I swear to god if we come out taking sacks on seven step drops I?m going to go ape shit.

3-5 step. Ball out. Repeat. Get Riddick involved. Sit Blounts big ass on the bench. 20+ carries for KJ.
 
grandy said:
Detroit Lions (3-5) @ Chicago Bears (5-3)


Previews
Pride of Detroit
Yahoo
CBS Sports
ESPN
Windy City Gridiron


Injury Report
Link (from Friday)

Lions
G T.J. Lang (neck) - OUT
CB Darius Slay (knee) - OUT
LB Eli Harold (shoulder) - Doubtful
DE Ezekiel Ansah (shoulder) - Questionable
LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin (neck) - Questionable
RB Kerryon Johnson (ankle) - Questionable
TE Luke Willson (shoulder) - Questionable

Bears
TE Dion Sims (concussion) - OUT
DL Bilal Nichols (knee) - Limited


Series History
Link
The Lions are 74-97-5 against the Bears
Last Game: 12/16/2017, Lions 20 Bears 10
Last Game in Chicago: 11/19/2017, Lions 27 Bears 24
Last Loss: 10/2/2016, Bears 17 Lions 14
Recent Games: The Lions have won 9 of the last 10 meetings
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Pussies...
 
Lions LB Eli Harold (shoulder) has been downgraded to OUT for Sunday?s game at Chicago.
 
boogerlovejoy said:
Yep. I swear to god if we come out taking sacks on seven step drops I?m going to go ape shit.

3-5 step. Ball out. Repeat. Get Riddick involved. Sit Blounts big ass on the bench. 20+ carries for KJ.
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KJ is on the wrong team to get 20 carries.
 
boogerlovejoy said:
Yep. I swear to god if we come out taking sacks on seven step drops I?m going to go ape shit.

3-5 step. Ball out. Repeat. Get Riddick involved. Sit Blounts big ass on the bench. 20+ carries for KJ.
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Bears will kill us if that's the gameplan. They need to run KJ into the ground but they also need to play defense well in order for this to happen. Stafford needs to come out firing on all cylinders and play like a stud. A lot of factors go into this. No Slay on d is going to sting....
 
This is probably the game where the sucks us back in again...and then we go back to...well, if we beat Carolina we can still make the playoffs.
 
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