How the Mueller Investigation Could Play Out for Trump

[JScottWriter]

These payments are no where near all that is going to come out of Mueller's report. Flynn gave substantial cooperation on 3 investigations. Manafort was busted relaying info back to the administration. Who knows what else Cohen and Gates have given up. Walls are closing in on Trump and hopefully it is over sooner rather than later.

 

[sggatecl]

These payments are no where near all that is going to come out of Mueller's report. Flynn gave substantial cooperation on 3 investigations. Manafort was busted relaying info back to the administration. Who knows what else Cohen and Gates have given up. Walls are closing in on Trump and hopefully it is over sooner rather than later.

Yeah. I have a feeling it will be something from right field that nobody saw coming.

 

[tigermud]

Well, that's the $130,000 IF. Allegedly, Cohen used his own money initially but then after the election requested reimbursement and was granted from campaign money. We'll find out soon.

I?ll put the odds of that at slim to none

 

[tigermud]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-as-simple-private-transaction-idUSKBN1O91JW

 

[sggatecl]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-as-simple-private-transaction-idUSKBN1O91JW

He already lied about it once. Fool me once shame on you...yadda yadda...

 

[tigermud]

He already lied about it once. Fool me once shame on you...yadda yadda...

I couldn't say, I'm not a lawyer. I'll leave it to the experts.

 

[sggatecl]

I couldn't say, I'm not a lawyer. I'll leave it to the experts.

If you can't take him at his own word, I understand.

Trump says he did not know about $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels

Trump reimbursed attorney who paid porn star Stormy Daniels: disclosure

 

[tigermud]

If you can't take him at his own word, I understand.

Trump says he did not know about $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels

Trump reimbursed attorney who paid porn star Stormy Daniels: disclosure

He?s a doofus but I still don?t see a better option

 

[sggatecl]

He?s a liar but I still don?t see a better option

I can think of plenty. Nothing would make me happier than Trump becoming just the second sitting president to lose his party's nomination in the primary. Would be the the best vote I've ever cast.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Maria Butina pleaded guilty to conspiring to act as a foreign agent.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/us/politics/butina-guilty.html


She was directed by Aleksandr Torshin, who Trump Jr. has admitted speaking to briefly at an NRA event, but wiretaps exist that say something about their meeting that I don't think is public knowledge yet.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I still don’t see how his payments to stromy and the other would be campaign ficance violations if they weren’t paid with campaign monies and or wouldn’t be surprised if he has a long history of that.

With the other one, the company that paid off the accuser has admitted they did it for the campaign.


edit: here you go


https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-sentenced-3-years-prison

As a part of the agreement, AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election. AMI further admitted that its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.

 

[tigermud]

it just never ends endless probe all the way to 2021.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...estigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455

 

[Gulo Blue]

it just never ends endless probe all the way to 2021.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...estigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455

I was just reading this. Makes me think this might have something to do with why Trump was so adamant that the crowd was the biggest ever.

 

[tigermud]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jud...uests-fbi-interview-reports/story?id=59804286

Reports tonight suggesting Flynn’s guilty plea may be thrown out and fbi found to have entrapped

 

[sggatecl]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jud...uests-fbi-interview-reports/story?id=59804286

Reports tonight suggesting Flynn’s guilty plea may be thrown out and fbi found to have entrapped

Reports from where? The article you just linked says:

It did not appear to be a move by Flynn’s lawyer to get the conviction tossed out, he added.

“It’s reputation management,” Wisenberg speculated. "It's his lawyer's last chance to say there are mitigating circumstances."

 

[tigermud]

Reports from where? The article you just linked says:

It?s a possibility

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fl...ll-filing-claiming-he-was-pressured-by-agents

 

[Gulo Blue]

Back in 1993, Trump's own lawyers, under oath, said they met with Trump in pairs because he would say certain things and then have a lack of memory.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...lawyer-we-met-with-him-in-pairs-to-avoid-lies

Over 25 years this guy has been getting away with this BS.

 

[tigermud]

Corsi was on C2C last night he's fighting back hard. Jury is still out on Trump and Stone but IMO what they did and doing to Corsi and Flynn is a damn travesty and I hope Corsi succeeds in his endeavor here as he is completely right here when he says going down a path of criminalizing politics will be a very dangerous thing for the country if that is where we are at now.

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2018/12/13

Jerome Corsi received a Ph.D. from Harvard University in political science in 1972. He is an investigative journalist and senior staff writer for several conservative websites. He is currently under investigation by the government legal team led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigating possible foreign interference in the 2016 presidential election. Corsi said that as a journalist, he decided at first to cooperate with the investigation because he "had nothing to hide." He now believes that the official inquiry is "criminalizing politics" and has "decided to go public" to tell his side of the story.

He stated that the Special Prosecutor’s office is trying to reveal connections between wikileaks founder Julian Assange, political strategist Roger Stone, former Trump advisor Steve Bannon and elements of the Russian government, and they believe that he has in his possession information that would bear this out. He says that he does not, and thinks that the investigation is operating with foregone conclusions. Corsi believes he is being forced to agree and admit to a narrative he says is false, and he will "not tell a lie to stay out of prison." He reported that he is now suing the government for $350 million for harassment, unwarranted surveillance, and wiretapping.

 

[Gulo Blue]

the official inquiry is "criminalizing politics"

This line should trigger your BS detector. What would it mean to criminalize politics? To claim that a political activity is criminal, I see two ways to go at it. 1) take a legal political activity and claim it is a crime or 2) take an illegal activity and claim it's just politics. The first makes no sense because it wouldn't hold up in court which leaves the second case, which is not a valid defense.

 

[tigermud]

This line should trigger your BS detector. What would it mean to criminalize politics? To claim that a political activity is criminal, I see two ways to go at it. 1) take a legal political activity and claim it is a crime or 2) take an illegal activity and claim it's just politics. The first makes no sense because it wouldn't hold up in court which leaves the second case, which is not a valid defense.

you'd had to listen to the two hours to understand what he's saying, nobody wins in the end, IMO the dems are hell bent on total trump destruction even if it destroys the country and it might do just that in the end.