I am fucking sick of Hillary

[Michchamp]

Ugh. The Hillary Hacks (or Hillbots as some call them) are getting as bad as, if not worse, than Bush supporters in the aftermath of 9/11. No dissent, no matter how mild, is tolerated.

I've completely stopped reading a couple blogs I used to like becauss I can't stomach the personal attacks on journalists who are only applying to Hillary the same standards and criticisms they had against Bush (and even Obama) on defense, foreign policy and the economy. I know its an election season, and politics is all about taking sides, but we/they/the Democrats were supposed to be marginally more intelligent than that.

If (it's still a big if)... IF she manages to somehow lose to Trump, her and her supporters have no one to blame but themselves. still, I'm sure they will blame Bernie Sanders.

Disclaimer: this is not an endorsement of Trump in any way, nor would I ever vote for him over Hillary. He is a total buffoon, and should not be allowed within 500 miles of the WhiteHouse or the nuclear football.

 

[byco42]

Perhaps Hillary is sick of herself, too.

 

[Sbee]

She leaves a lot to be desired, obvious pandering, flippant, for sale by the political donor class. The game sucks but she's an expert at playing it. if people are looking for the perfect they won't find it in Hillary. Still the best option we have of the two.

 

[byco42]

Coughing fits, concussions, "cookies" not "classified," earpieces, funnel glasses, "I can't recall" being trained on handling classified information ... yes, the "best" option indeed.

 

[Spartanmack]

Coughing fits, concussions, "cookies" not "classified," earpieces, funnel glasses, "I can't recall" being trained on handling classified information ... yes, the "best" option indeed.

don't forget the 8 Blackberrys and 5 iPads = 1 device. Then smashing those 13 devices (not 1, 13) with a hammer so her "yoga" emails wouldn't be disclosed by any FOIA request by right wing conspirators.

 

[TheVictors]

don't forget the 8 Blackberrys and 5 iPads = 1 device. Then smashing those 13 devices (not 1, 13) with a hammer so her "yoga" emails wouldn't be disclosed by any FOIA request by right wing conspirators.

No, you're thinking of Tom Brady.

 

[Gulo Blue]

obvious pandering, flippant, for sale by the political donor class

Absolutely. I don't believe she gives a crap about Americans. Just donors. And I think she flat out lies with regard to the email thing. She knowingly did it to dodge FOIA requests. It might be a common practice, or at least she might not be the first person to do it, but it demonstrates that she has no intention of playing by the rules. She doesn't respect the checks and balances of the system. She's not remotely alone in this, but for all the people in the nation, it's a shame that this is the best we can do.

 

[Spartanmack]

No, you're thinking of Tom Brady.

I thought Tom Brady chucked his into Boston Harbor. Plus, Tom Brady isn't old enough to still be carrying a Blackberry. He may have taught her the move, but I'm not thinking of him.

 

[Spartanmack]

Absolutely. I don't believe she gives a crap about Americans. Just donors. And I think she flat out lies with regard to the email thing. She knowingly did it to dodge FOIA requests. It might be a common practice, or at least she might not be the first person to do it, but it demonstrates that she has no intention of playing by the rules. She doesn't respect the checks and balances of the system. She's not remotely alone in this, but for all the people in the nation, it's a shame that this is the best we can do.

This is probably the worst we can do - at a minimum, far from the best.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I thought Tom Brady chucked his into Boston Harbor. Plus, Tom Brady isn't old enough to still be carrying a Blackberry. He may have taught her the move, but I'm not thinking of him.

The FBI doesn't understand what happens to your email when you compose it in a warm room and then send it in cold, rainy conditions. There's a pressure change, which can lead to leaks.

 

[Sbee]

don't forget the 8 Blackberrys and 5 iPads = 1 device. Then smashing those 13 devices (not 1, 13) with a hammer so her "yoga" emails wouldn't be disclosed by any FOIA request by right wing conspirators.

Can you confirm that it's 8 blackberries at a time or each one replacing the other? if you're just replacing your devices you can still say that you only have one device.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Coughing fits...

Now, in fairness, it's possible she just has an extremely sensitive throat, and eats peanuts too fast just before she makes a speech...

I have a very sensitive throat, and I often cough when it gets irritated - especially right after I've just eaten peanuts too fast.

That said, Dr. Drew has concerns about her health - and as much as a medical professional for her well being as his concerns for to be healthy enough to be president.

Although he likely has those concerns, too.

 

[Spartanmack]

Can you confirm that it's 8 blackberries at a time or each one replacing the other? if you're just replacing your devices you can still say that you only have one device.

Can you confirm that it wasn't? 8 blackberries and two phone numbers used simultaneously so it's at least 2 at a time. Plus she was SOS for 4 years so she'd have to be going through a Blackberry every 6 months if it's back-to-back, less actually because she would have needed time left over to go through 5 iPads in succession. Now think of the likelihood that 13 devices were used in one after the other over a 4 year period and then conclude that it's possible because of the vast right wing conspiracy so you don't have to sway in your opinion that 1) she didn't lie and 2) she didn't do anything wrong. I know you're trying hard, and it's admirable, but you're shredding your credibility with every post where you hold firm to the "no charges means she did nothing wrong" story. She really just an establishment politician but in no way corrupt because she hasn't been charged.

 

[Spartanmack]

Now, in fairness, it's possible she just has an extremely sensitive throat, and eats peanuts too fast just before she makes a speech...

I have a very sensitive throat, and I often cough when it gets irritated - especially right after I've just eaten peanuts too fast.

That said, Dr. Drew has concerns about her health - and as much as a medical professional for her well being as his concerns for to be healthy enough to be president.

Although he likely has those concerns, too.

It's interesting that Dr. Drew's show was canceled almost immediately after he questioned her health and the care she was receiving. I don't know if there is anything to the health issue with Hillary but the timing is odd - probably just another coincidence - CNN would never punish anyone just for making less than fawning comments about Hillary.

 

[Thumb]

I trust Dr. Drew's opinion as a medical professional about as much as I trust the medical opinion of Dr. Oz.

There is a big problem when doctors focus more on their agendas than they do on actual medicine. Dr. Phil is another example, he was once a well respected Psychologist.

As far as Hillary's health is concerned, of all the factors as to why she's unfit to be POTUS, I believe her health status is the least concern (after all wouldn't Tim Kaine be an improvement anyways?) I find the whole issue to be the right just grasping at straws.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I trust Dr. Drew's opinion as a medical professional about as much as I trust the medical opinion of Dr. Oz.

They're both practicing MDs off of their TV and radio shows.

Oz went to Harvard undergrad and Penn Med School and also earned an MBA, and he's been a professor at the Columbia medical school for 15 years. He's also a department head at New York Presbyterian Hospital.

Pinsky did his undergrad at Amherst and went to medical school at USC.

Off the air he's works with substance abuse addicts with their recoveries.

On the air Drew Pinsky has also questioned if Trump is qualified to be president health wise- especially his mental health.

You have a point though, if Hillary is elected and falls over dead, we're probably better off with Tim Kaine.

This is hysterical.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It's interesting that Dr. Drew's show was canceled almost immediately after he questioned her health and the care she was receiving.

Is that the HLN show?

I don't think that has been on that long.

Here is Pinsky being interviewed by Doug McIntyre.
They both have radio shows on 790 KABC in Los Angeles.

I don't know what he has said on CNN or HLN - here, he's claims he's more concerned with the health care she's receiving, not so much her fitness to be president.

 

[Thumb]

They're both practicing MDs off of their TV and radio shows.

Oz went to Harvard undergrad and Penn Med School and also earned an MBA, and he's been a professor at the Columbia medical school for 15 years. He's also a department head at New York Presbyterian Hospital.

Pinsky did his undergrad at Amherst and went to medical school at USC.

Off the air he's works with substance abuse addicts with their recoveries.

On the air Drew Pinsky has also questioned if Trump is qualified to be president health wise- especially his mental health.

You have a point though, if Hillary is elected and falls over dead, we're probably better off with Tim Kaine.

This is hysterical.

I don't question their qualifications, just their actual practices.

As far as also questioning Trump, I don't believe in that either. I don't think any doctor who has not examined someone, or at least directly referenced to the case by someone who has, is in a position to make any sort of diagnosis or prognosis on any person whatsoever.

Which is my problem with Pinsky, he's not in a position to make any claims at all, except for ratings, or to further some agenda that is in no way related to anything at all laid out in a Physicians code of ethics.

 

[tigermud]

Hillary's Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...n-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps-300325065.html

I view it as a huge concern she has moments of fog and can't think clearly and no Kaine would not be better he's a full on 100% globalist and would continue to sell out unabated IMO He's in favor of TPP and every other trade deal that he's ever looked at." Terrible choice but I'd concede he'd prolly not lie has much so from that sense sure, better off

 

[tigermud]

Of all people to have created this thread to go with the trump thread of the same, never would have guessed it would have beee michchamp as well. Props to you michchamp!