I am fucking sick of Hillary

[Spartanmack]

i haven't really followed it closely - about all I know is she fell and hit her head a few years ago and lately she coughs a lot. to me the most interesting thing about hillary's health is the same media who made a big deal out of McCain's and Dole's health are outraged that people have the nerve to ask questions about hers.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Of all people to have created this thread to go with the trump thread of the same, never would have guessed it would have beee michchamp as well. Props to you michchamp!

Yeah, props.

 

[tinselwolverine]

i haven't really followed it closely - about all I know is she fell and hit her head a few years ago and lately she coughs a lot. to me the most interesting thing about hillary's health is the same media who made a big deal out of McCain's and Dole's health are outraged that people have the nerve to ask questions about hers.

I don't think it's the same people, especially the people about Bob Dole.

Most of those people are dead.

 

[Sbee]

Can you confirm that it wasn't? 8 blackberries and two phone numbers used simultaneously so it's at least 2 at a time. Plus she was SOS for 4 years so she'd have to be going through a Blackberry every 6 months if it's back-to-back, less actually because she would have needed time left over to go through 5 iPads in succession. Now think of the likelihood that 13 devices were used in one after the other over a 4 year period and then conclude that it's possible because of the vast right wing conspiracy so you don't have to sway in your opinion that 1) she didn't lie and 2) she didn't do anything wrong. I know you're trying hard, and it's admirable, but you're shredding your credibility with every post where you hold firm to the "no charges means she did nothing wrong" story. She really just an establishment politician but in no way corrupt because she hasn't been charged.

I can't confirm, that's why I asked the question. I assume that she used one and had a hot spare in case of some kind of issue with one, same thing with other devices. That's different than having 13 at a time.

You're reaching with what I'm saying about this issue. What I'm saying is that this isn't really that big of a deal, she did what the Powell did before her and using a private email account is common with government officials, but if Hillary does it, it's a "scandal" that your side loves so much.

I've said that Hillary is corrupt, she's far from perfect, but she's the best choice in this election largely because of who she's up against.

 

[Spartanmack]

I can't confirm, that's why I asked the question. I assume that she used one and had a hot spare in case of some kind of issue with one, same thing with other devices. That's different than having 13 at a time.

You're reaching with what I'm saying about this issue. What I'm saying is that this isn't really that big of a deal, she did what the Powell did before her and using a private email account is common with government officials, but if Hillary does it, it's a "scandal" that your side loves so much.

I've said that Hillary is corrupt, she's far from perfect, but she's the best choice in this election largely because of who she's up against.

There are two explanations for concluding this isn't a big deal. One is that you're dumb and the other is that you simply believe every lie Clinton has told about the emails including the one that she did the same thing as Powell. Powell did not do anything close to what Hillary did. Powell maintained a state department email account and a personal email account. His personal email account was not maintained on a private server, it was a commercially provided service (aol if memory serves).

 

[Michchamp]

Of all people to have created this thread to go with the trump thread of the same, never would have guessed it would have beee michchamp as well. Props to you michchamp!

Youre welcome. You want results? come talk to me. you want a lot if endless jawing, and excuses? talk to... someone else.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I think we may have talked about James Randi on here before- the guy that spent a lot of his life debunking psychics and paranormal acts and faith healing and such. Each year he gives out a flying pig award to somebody trying to seriously present some kind of BS. Dr. Oz won the award 3 times in a 4 year stretch.

 

[Sbee]

There are two explanations for concluding this isn't a big deal. One is that you're dumb and the other is that you simply believe every lie Clinton has told about the emails including the one that she did the same thing as Powell. Powell did not do anything close to what Hillary did. Powell maintained a state department email account and a personal email account. His personal email account was not maintained on a private server, it was a commercially provided service (aol if memory serves).

I know he used a private account and not a private server, it's debatable which is more secure. I agree that Hillary did not follow best practices and essentially ignored them, but that's hardly criminal. This is a big deal because it's working to damage her, but the end result of her using a private email server is basically nothing. There are much bigger issues to talk about.

I just prefer a candidate who can form complete sentences, stay on topic, not ramble on and boast about how he knows more than the generals about ISIS, etc. Clinton is a better candidate, not ideal, not my first choice of the field but Trump is a dangerous disaster. You might disagree with Hillary on almost everything but at least she knows what the issues are and can clearly articulate her views.

 

[Spartanmack]

I know he used a private account and not a private server, it's debatable which is more secure. I agree that Hillary did not follow best practices and essentially ignored them, but that's hardly criminal. This is a big deal because it's working to damage her, but the end result of her using a private email server is basically nothing. There are much bigger issues to talk about.

I just prefer a candidate who can form complete sentences, stay on topic, not ramble on and boast about how he knows more than the generals about ISIS, etc. Clinton is a better candidate, not ideal, not my first choice of the field but Trump is a dangerous disaster. You might disagree with Hillary on almost everything but at least she knows what the issues are and can clearly articulate her views.

Powell used a private account for personal email. He used a state department account for classified communications so the debate about which is more secure is irrelevant. And it is criminal for her to have used a private email server to transmit, receive and store classified information, not merely a violation of "best practices". She did exactly that and she lied about it, it's been proven. Knowing that, it's inconceivable that she wasn't charged. Patreus was charged and convicted for having classified documents in his home - hard copies that can't be hacked by electronic spies. But to you, Hillary's illegal misdeeds are no big deal because she wasn't charged. That's pathetic.

And there you go comparing Clinton to Trump as if I'm supporting Trump. I'm saying they're both horrible and unfit for the office. I would prefer someone else over both of them - so much so that I'm not going to vote for any of the candidates for President in this election.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Which is my problem with Pinsky, he's not in a position to make any claims at all, except for ratings, or to further some agenda that is in no way related to anything at all laid out in a Physicians code of ethics.

I actually used to kind of had that opinion of Drew Pinsky myself, before I started listening to his radio show on 790 KABC with Mike Catherwood, his love lines partner.

They talk about the same current events that everybody else does, except Pinsky is an MD, and therefore a little more knowledgeable about issues concerning medication and health.

In post 17, the one just before the one I'm quoting here, there's a link to a radio interview of Pinsky by Doug McIntyre, who also hosts a radio show on the same station.

Pinsky specifically states that he DOES not make diagnoses of people he doesn't know; the things he says on the air are much less comprehensive than a diagnosis.

I don't think Pinsky has any agenda; I don't think he's going to vote for either Trump or Hillary.

I don't know that any medical review board or anything like that has ever questioned his ethics.

But, again, before I started listening to his radio show, or parts of it while driving around on business, I was skeptical of him too.

 

[Thumb]

I actually used to kind of had that opinion of Drew Pinsky myself, before I started listening to his radio show on 790 KABC with Mike Catherwood, his love lines partner.

They talk about the same current events that everybody else does, except Pinsky is an MD, and therefore a little more knowledgeable about issues concerning medication and health.

In post 17, the one just before the one I'm quoting here, there's a link to a radio interview of Pinsky by Doug McIntyre, who also hosts a radio show on the same station.

Pinsky specifically states that he DOES not make diagnoses of people he doesn't know; the things he says on the air are much less comprehensive than a diagnosis.

I don't think Pinsky has any agenda; I don't think he's going to vote for either Trump or Hillary.

I don't know that any medical review board or anything like that has ever questioned his ethics.

But, again, before I started listening to his radio show, or parts of it while driving around on business, I was skeptical of him too.

Of course he has an agenda, but it (probably) has nothing to do with politics. It's ratings. Same with Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil. Higher ratings mean a better contract next time it's renewed. Maybe a book deal, or product endorsements.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Of course he has an agenda, but it (probably) has nothing to do with politics. It's ratings. Same with Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil. Higher ratings mean a better contract next time it's renewed. Maybe a book deal, or product endorsements.

Maybe Pinsky and Oz say things to get ratings; or maybe they just say what they think about things and they get good ratings and advertisers because there's an audience that wants to hear what they think.

I don't know what books Oz has written; Pinsky's written some books I think.

Maybe he's gotten book deals because of things he has said on the air in an attempt to get book deals, or maybe he's gotten book deals because publishers believe there's a marketplace for them with people who will want to read them.

Also Dr. Phil is vastly different than Pinsky or Oz. He's not an MD and his shows are more like Jerry Springer and Maury - it's a show for slightly less stupid people than the audiences for Jerry Springer and Maury.

 

[tigermud]

Shillary says she's sorry for calling half of trump supporters racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-basket-of-deplorables/index.html

She also added "And unfortunately, there are people like that and he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people, now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric."

What mean spirited offseive web sites is she referring to that could have possiblely gone from a mear 11k to 11 million? Wtf is she talking about...oh yeah prolly this one

https://youtu.be/ufkHt8dgG8I

I'll tell ya what if she wins she will seek to shutdown Internet press of those she determines have no right to exist.

 

[jwlcosu]

Shillary says she's sorry for calling half of trump supporters racist, sexist, homophobic or xenophobic.

Hillary spews the standard leftist tripe. It's so low, so cheap, so polarizing, so wrong, so typical.

Just saw she had another medical event today, by the way. Was dragged stumbling into her security van. That woman is a basket case in a number of ways. Nevertheless, she's next in line to be POTUS. Good luck.

Zoom Twitter feed of Hillary's most recent medical event (for as long as it lasts).

 

[Gulo Blue]

Hillary spews the standard leftist tripe. It's so low, so cheap, so polarizing, so wrong, so typical.

Just saw she had another medical event today, by the way. Was dragged stumbling into her security van. That woman is a basket case in a number of ways. Nevertheless, she's next in line to be POTUS. Good luck.

Zoom Twitter feed of Hillary's most recent medical event (for as long as it lasts).

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/774994824030220288

Meghan McCainVerified account
I would just like any journalist to admit the hypocrisy on how they covered my fathers health compared to Hilary.

 

[tigermud]

Hillary spews the standard leftist tripe. It's so low, so cheap, so polarizing, so wrong, so typical.

Just saw she had another medical event today, by the way. Was dragged stumbling into her security van. That woman is a basket case in a number of ways. Nevertheless, she's next in line to be POTUS. Good luck.

Zoom Twitter feed of Hillary's most recent medical event (for as long as it lasts).

Health issues are blantely obvious, as some have been saying for months

 

[tigermud]

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, doctor says

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-has-pneumonia-doctor-says-228012

Which is a side effect of a larger issue?

https://youtu.be/8XtIzH9HoC8

 

[tinselwolverine]

Hillary Clinton has pneumonia, doctor says

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-has-pneumonia-doctor-says-228012

For years, Michael J. Fox was able to perform on a very important White House job while coping with Parkinson's.

EDIT: My bad, I got The West Wing mixed up with Spin City.

 

[biggunsbob]

She should step aside and let Bernie crush Trump in November . But then a spider or a ant would be a better president the Orange man. Which he is either covering really good with make up or stopped his tanning treatments . Why is or was his skin Orange?But Trump fans have to be happy . He is inching closer to having the Oval Office sadly.

 

[Michchamp]

For years, Michael J. Fox was able to perform on a very important White House job while coping with Parkinson's.

EDIT: My bad, I got The West Wing mixed up with Spin City.

FDR was one of our greatest presidents and he couldn't walk. he got away with campaigning using a variety of tricks to appear mobile. And of course, back in those days you didn't have to be on TV much.

as long as the president can do the things required of them: think clearly, speak or communicate thoughts clearly to aides and others who need to hear them, and hold meetings when necessary, who cares if they have a chronic illness?

but on the other hand, the possible cover-up of the fact that she may have a serious illness is bad form by her campaign. it will get talked about, and become a huge distraction eventually.

in the end though, the worst that can happen is we get President Tim Kaine instead. He is basically the same as her (politically) but without all the dumb made up scandals for Republitards to talk about, and is still 1,000,000 times a better option than Donald Trump, who is an objectively HORRIBLE option.