If the dems win the House

[Michchamp]

Cool story, bro.

Too bad that 50 bucks would only pay for an overnight stay in a decent motel room.

Minimum wage in the 50s paid for a single person renting a flat with utilities and food for a month.

Conservatives never think to ask why things have changed since then.

 

[tomdalton22]

Conservatives never think to ask why things have changed since then.

It's all of the entitlements

 

[Michchamp]

It's all of the entitlements

Right, even though those were greater in the past and have only gone down over time. but income disparity keeps increasing. And this isn't just a slam at the GOP... Clinton's welfare reform act in '96 threw a lot of people off welfare.

union membership has cratered... real wages have stagnated. How come?

Republicans say "Well not enough people are in math and science"

wages for IT, engineers, etc. have also stagnated.

very odd. It's almost like... the twilight zone. or maybe they're intentionally misleadling us to ensure more and more income and wealth goes to the 1%.

 

[Spartanmack]

Who is Adams? Yeah they fawn over some candidates but at least they weren't on stage during a campaign rally like those non-bias right wing media.

Sorry, I meant Abrams. And I don't watch right wing media - who was on stage during a campaign rally?

 

[Spartanmack]

Hot take considering Republicans elected two candidates under indictment and with Hannety jumping on stage with Trump. Seems like a lot of the partisan grievances I read this morning could be applied to the other side in a similar fashion.

But doesn't Hannity openly admit his bias? Also, doesn't he say he's not a journalist?

 

[Spartanmack]

I can't find a better chart, but halfway down this:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-night-2018/fte-rr.html
There's a small chart of the 538 odds over the course of the evening. There was a period where they thought the Dems chances were closer to even. By started moving back around 10 pm which is around the point where Fox News called it.

I don't doubt the move in 538, just saying that what I saw on NBC (granted, only from after 9:30 and only for about an hour) was a lot like what you saw on FOX.

 

[Spartanmack]

Most Republicans profess to be xtian, but they actually worship Mammon, and Drumpf is Mammon's Messiah. They also supported the Citizens United SCOTUS ruling, which gives corporations the same political rights as if they were individual private citizens, but w/o that nasty criminal prosecution part if caught doing anything illegal.

soccer moms explaining economics to teenagers, you're really dropping the boom there. Sure, they probably understand economics better than mc and a lot of posters here, but it's still pretty weak as far as memes go.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Trump claiming victory this very moment by virtue of holding the Senate, winning key governor seats and losing less House seats than Obama did in his first midterm election.

 

[Spartanmack]

Cool story, bro.

Too bad that 50 bucks would only pay for an overnight stay in a decent motel room.

Minimum wage in the 50s paid for a single person renting a flat with utilities and food for a month.

cool story bro except those artificially bloated wages displaced a lot of low skilled workers and ultimately led to jobs going elsewhere.

 

[Spartanmack]

Conservatives never think to ask why things have changed since then.

we talk about this all the time, it's just that leftists don't get it.

 

[Spartanmack]

Right, even though those were greater in the past and have only gone down over time. but income disparity keeps increasing. And this isn't just a slam at the GOP... Clinton's welfare reform act in '96 threw a lot of people off welfare.

union membership has cratered... real wages have stagnated. How come?

Republicans say "Well not enough people are in math and science"

wages for IT, engineers, etc. have also stagnated.

very odd. It's almost like... the twilight zone. or maybe they're intentionally misleadling us to ensure more and more income and wealth goes to the 1%.

income disparity isn't what matters - that's just more of your class warfare bullshit. All incomes have been rising, as has the standard of living for EVERYONE in America. Poor people today have a better quality of life than the wealthiest Americans did 100 years ago. But income for the top have grown faster, which to a leftist is bad even though it's clearly not.

And only an idiot would say entitlements have been going down - they've increased as a % of the budget continuously and the % of Americans on some form of assistance has ballooned to almost 50%. Only a moron would say entitlements have gone down.

 

[turok]

cool story bro except those artificially bloated wages displaced a lot of low skilled workers and ultimately led to jobs going elsewhere.

Jobs went elsewhere b/c of corporate capitalists exploiting the peasant labor of 3rd world nations, not b/c of so-called artificially bloated wages in the US, which of course means "unions". Labor bought not only the products and leased the services of the businesses who they worked for, but those of their neighbors, relatives and friends. You seem to post like somehow you yourself have never needed or benefited as a result of their labor and sacrifices for the common good, which is BS.

 

[Spartanmack]

Jobs went elsewhere b/c of corporate capitalists exploiting the peasant labor of 3rd world nations, not b/c of so-called artificially bloated wages in the US, which of course means "unions". Labor bought not only the products and leased the services of the businesses who they worked for, but those of their neighbors, relatives and friends. You seem to post like somehow you yourself have never needed or benefited as a result of their labor and sacrifices for the common good, which is BS.

Ah, it's the fault of those evil capitalists. Got it. But if wages weren't bloated in the US, why would those evil capitalists go elsewhere? that makes no sense. You're right about one thing, it does mean unions - they're the ones that drove wages well above the value of the labor.

I don't post like that at all, I post like someone who understands that unions drove companies to look elsewhere for labor because American laborers were too expensive.

 

[tinselwolverine]

In California, it looks like Republicans are going to lose 3 to 5 of the 13 House seats that they held it going into the election.

There are 53 total House of representatives districts in the state of California.

 

[turok]

It would be very interesting to see a present day US that came about from the total absence of any "socialist" efforts, labor, or programs during the 20th century. A nation of Potterville villages and hamlets owned by robber-barons and corporate landlords ala the old holiday movie" Its A Wonderful Life" would not surprise me, if not even worse.

 

[Spartanmack]

Who is Adams? Yeah they fawn over some candidates but at least they weren't on stage during a campaign rally like those non-bias right wing media.

Sorry, I meant Abrams. And I don't watch right wing media - who was on stage during a campaign rally?

update: based on sgg's post I assume you're talking about Hannity. I already pointed out in my post to him that Hannity doesn't consider himself a journalist and openly admits his bias. Additionally, today on msn.com, I read an article which said Hannity kept himself out of FOX's live coverage of the election which sounds like a personal decision given that according to the article, FOX indicated he'd be part of the coverage even yesterday.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...on-stage-at-trump-rally/ar-BBPrLCD?ocid=ientp

 

[Spartanmack]

in california, it looks like republicans are going to lose 3 to 5 of the 13 house seats that they held it going into the election.

There are 53 total house of representatives districts in the people's republic of california.

fify

 

[Spartanmack]

It would be very interesting to see a present day US that came about from the total absence of any "socialist" efforts, labor, or programs during the 20th century. A nation of Potterville villages and hamlets owned by robber-barons and corporate landlords ala the old holiday movie" Its A Wonderful Life" would not surprise me, if not even worse.

you don't have to imagine what America would look like if she were run by Dems and embraced every social welfare program - all you have to do is look at cities like Detroit, Flint, Baltimore, etc, etc. Makes "It's a Wonderful Life" look like Utopia.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It would be very interesting to see a present day US that came about from the total absence of any "socialist" efforts, labor, or programs during the 20th century. A nation of Potterville villages and hamlets owned by robber-barons and corporate landlords ala the old holiday movie" Its A Wonderful Life" would not surprise me, if not even worse.

Not to get into the middle of this but as I recall, that had been prevented by George Bailey and his father through innovative and creative financing provided by the Bailey Building and Loan to members of the community through the free market.

That said, in the pivotal bank run scene, George said a lot of things to both the borrowers and depositors that called for cooperation and a degree of collectivism.

Although we never saw beyond the end of the movie, there were a number of foreshadowing events that indicated that George would one day gain the upper hand over Potter through providing a better and more useful service.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, there was at least one and I think more than one big manufacturing plant in Bedford Falls that probably employed much of the town.

Possibly a labor union provided many of the townfolk access to qualify to borrow to purchase a house they otherwise wouldn’t have been able to.

So there’s that.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

If Demtards win the house nothing changes.

If Trumpanzees win the house nothing changes.