Instant Replay Proposal on MLB Agenda

[kalinecountry]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9...stant-replay-proposal-mlb-executive-committee
Joe Torre submits replay proposal.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.freep.com/article/20130815/SPORTS02/308150115/mlb-replay-major-league-baseball-instant
MLB plans to expand instant replay to include managers' challenges in 2014.
from the freep

Nice picture of Galarraga, Jim Joyce, and the runner from the Perfect game.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130815&content_id=57090474&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
MLB plans to expand instant replay in 2014.
Owners will formally vote on issue at next meeting in November.
from mlb.com

Baseball moves slowly with change. Bowden as a GM back some 20 years ago suggested this and was laughed at by the other GM's at the time of their off season meeting.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/owners-considering-manager-initiated-replay-proposal-081513
Owners will vote on replay proposal.
from foxsports

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more...ith_manager_challenges_J4AM79MQb9kO1n0dQOjtKJ
Replay plan with managers' challenges likely to be used next season.
from the newyorkpost


http://www.blessyouboys.com/2013/8/...-instant-replay-challenge-system-booth-review
MLB owners approve expanded instant replay for 2014 season.
from bybtb

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...introduce-manager-challenges-to-replay-system
MLB to introduce manager challenges to replay system.
from cbssports

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer...ays-good-for-mlb-for-expanding-instant-replay
Immediate review says: Good for MLB for expanding instant replay.
from cbssports

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130815&content_id=57144304&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Upon further review, MLB ready for more replay.
from mlb.com

 

[manchild98]

I like it.


Highlights of the new system:

? A review will be initiated when a manager informs the umpire that he wants to challenge a play. He will be allowed one challenge in the first six innings and two more from the seventh through the end of the game.


? If the manager wins his appeal, he retains the challenge. The challenge from the first six innings does not carry over.

? Not all plays are reviewable.

? If a manager disagrees with a reviewable call, his only recourse would be to use a challenge. Managers would not be able to argue a reviewable call in a bid to get it overturned without the use of replay. A manager could still argue in situations not open to review, such as when defending a player or questioning an improper substitution.

"Reviewable plays will cover 89 percent of those incorrect calls that were made in the past," Schuerholz explained. "The 11 percent remaining are in the non-reviewable [category], which can still be argued by the manager. And the manager can still request that the umpires get together and discuss it to see if anybody else on the crew saw it differently. But it's not reviewable."

 

[byco42]

The idea that a manager might be out of challenges when the final play of a game will affect the outcome, to me, defeats the entire purpose. There's no way that a manager can predict if there's going to be another blown call after he uses all his challenges. Why should a weak crew still be allowed to make a mistake that cannot be challenged but is reviewable?

And the non-reviewable plays will continue to plague teams because everyone will know when it's obvious that the call was blown.

And there's the obvious problem of the time of the blown call and how it affects baserunners who advance or who are called back to bases.

 

[kalinecountry]

The idea that a manager might be out of challenges when the final play of a game will affect the outcome, to me, defeats the entire purpose. There's no way that a manager can predict if there's going to be another blown call after he uses all his challenges. Why should a weak crew still be allowed to make a mistake that cannot be challenged but is reviewable?

And the non-reviewable plays will continue to plague teams because everyone will know when it's obvious that the call was blown.

And there's the obvious problem of the time of the blown call and how it affects baserunners who advance or who are called back to bases.

Getting 1 for the first 6 innings, might not be enough with the really bad umps, angel and bucknor among several.
All the ballparks will have the same number of cameras.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9571044/should-baseball-replay-challenges
Should Baseball Have Replay Challenges?
Vote at Espn Sportsnation

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm not a big fan of challenges. I'm also not a big fan of replays with a play at any of the bases.

Maybe just get better umpires. More get together's so they can talk it out..

 

[Thumb]

Mitch is on to something here....many times umpires will get a better look at a play than the umpire who made the call, but they very rarely overrule a call.

If an umpire sees a clear mistake, he should be obligated, no matter the embarrassment/annoyance of his fellow crew, to make the correct call.

But instead; the umpires act like a 3rd team on the field, and the game suffers because of it.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm not a big fan of challenges. I'm also not a big fan of replays with a play at any of the bases.

Maybe just get better umpires. More get together's so they can talk it out..

I think a challenge at any base is the right move.

 

[tomdalton22]

Getting 1 for the first 6 innings, might not be enough with the really bad umps, angel and bucknor among several.
All the ballparks will have the same number of cameras.

well, if the umps suck and the calls get overturned the manager keeps his challenge. It might be a good thing....if the ump gets challenged 4 times in the first 6 innings and they all get overturned it will show that the ump really sucks!

 

[byco42]

A third-out circumstance that is reversed and where the runner scores is going to take longer than 90 seconds to unravel. Same with the rare fourth-out in an inning.

This will cause as many problems as it will solve.

 

[byco42]

Mitch is on to something here....many times umpires will get a better look at a play than the umpire who made the call, but they very rarely overrule a call.

If an umpire sees a clear mistake, he should be obligated, no matter the embarrassment/annoyance of his fellow crew, to make the correct call.

But instead; the umpires act like a 3rd team on the field, and the game suffers because of it.

Any manager can ask a umpire to appeal to another umpire when a call is in question. Then it's up to the umpire to make the call to ask for help. Don Mattingly should have learned this when he argued this "out" call with Tim Welke and never thought to ask him to appeal to the HPU, who is responsible to watch this play unless there's a runner at third, which there was not.

Now you might say that the HPU is "obligated" to reverse the call. I disagree. Lest you now introduce the option of field umpires reversing balls and strikes.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Now you might say that the HPU is "obligated" to reverse the call. I disagree. Lest you now introduce the option of field umpires reversing balls and strikes.

1st base and 3rd base umpires already occasionally make calls on check swings.

 

[byco42]

1st base and 3rd base umpires already occasionally make calls on check swings.

When the HPU asks them to.

 

[Thumb]

Any manager can ask a umpire to appeal to another umpire when a call is in question. Then it's up to the umpire to make the call to ask for help. Don Mattingly should have learned this when he argued this "out" call with Tim Welke and never thought to ask him to appeal to the HPU, who is responsible to watch this play unless there's a runner at third, which there was not.


Now you might say that the HPU is "obligated" to reverse the call. I disagree. Lest you now introduce the option of field umpires reversing balls and strikes.

No. I don't think strike zone would really be part of it. Nobody has a better look at the strike zone than the HPU. I also don't think balls/strikes should be part of the replay.

But plays at bases, foul/fair calls, catch/no-catch calls, should not need a managers appeal, if another umpire who sometimes has a better angle than the umpire who calls the play, clearly sees it differently. The umpires should strive to call the game as accurately as possible. Not just when asked to ask for help.

 

[tomdalton22]

No. I don't think strike zone would really be part of it. Nobody has a better look at the strike zone than the HPU. I also don't think balls/strikes should be part of the replay.

But plays at bases, foul/fair calls, catch/no-catch calls, should not need a managers appeal, if another umpire who sometimes has a better angle than the umpire who calls the play, clearly sees it differently. The umpires should strive to call the game as accurately as possible. Not just when asked to ask for help.

while I agree with you the umpires work together every day. I think the last thing they want to do is show up another ump in front of 40,000 people.

 

[Mitchrapp]

while I agree with you the umpires work together every day. I think the last thing they want to do is show up another ump in front of 40,000 people.

Why not? Is it gonna hurt his little feelings?

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/mlb-blows-call-challenge-system
MLB blows call with the Challenge System.
from nbcsports

 

[Mitchrapp]

Any manager can ask a umpire to appeal to another umpire when a call is in question. Then it's up to the umpire to make the call to ask for help. Don Mattingly should have learned this when he argued this "out" call with Tim Welke and never thought to ask him to appeal to the HPU, who is responsible to watch this play unless there's a runner at third, which there was not.

Now you might say that the HPU is "obligated" to reverse the call. I disagree. Lest you now introduce the option of field umpires reversing balls and strikes.

:bs: Did Leyland ask Joyce..and the head up..? Uh huh. Did they talk it over, no way Jose.

 

[Mitchrapp]

http://www.nbcsports.com/joe-posnanski/mlb-blows-call-challenge-system
MLB blows call with the Challenge System.
from nbcsports

I like that article. Btw, what happens when a call is reversed then the other team argues? If I learn anything from the NFL, even with replays, umps get stuff wrong.