Izzo presser

[Sbee]

wow, i've never heard him that pissed and testy. he was upset about the fouls on valentine and dawson, they were both on the bench most of the first half and then picked up #3 within 90 seconds in the second half. he was as angry as I've ever heard him, he didn't sound defeated but he did have one telling quote

"it's a shame what happened to this team"

he just sounded really disappointed

 

[MSUMatt28]

Well 2 years ago they were pretty steamed after blowing the outright Big Ten title on the final day to OSU and then stormed through the BTT, minus Dawson. I guess we can hope for a repeat performance.

Between the injuries, recruiting misses (and "middlemen" comments) and the officiating, Izzo hasn't been a happy camper this year.

 

[johnny2x2x]

31-10 in FT attempts. You could hear the slaps on Payne's arms in your living room, he was gettting hammered down low. Aaron Craft hip checks Appling out of bounds and steals the inbounds pass. Craft had a hand full of Harris's jersey on the final shot. Just a lot of missed calls on OSU and then it seemed we picked up some ticky tack stuff that looked clean.

Still, nobody made a play at the end, the game was there for the taking and we looked far superior to OSU. Who wants to make the big play or take the big shot at the end? It used to be Appling who would win the game at the end, but he's so passive now.

Who knows, but at this point it would not surprise me if we go out in the 1st weekend of the tourney.

 

[Sbee]

I'm sick of the Craft love, he's a good defensive player but he clutches and grabs all the time. there was a play about 4 minutes into the game where Dawson had to call a timeout on an inbounds play, Craft was just holding Appling and he couldn't get free. Craft played 37 minutes with 1 foul all the while going aggressively for steals, if you play that way, you're going to grab someone's arm and reach once in a while, that's the trade off. It's hard to believe that he could play that aggressively for that long and only get one foul. part of the problem may have been guarding appling who wasn't driving but a lot of those steals or attempts were on other players

 

[tomdalton22]

Big 10 officiating is a joke. The home teams get way too many calls. This goes both ways though...MSU at home gets the benifit too.

 

[Sbee]

Big 10 officiating is a joke. The home teams get way too many calls. This goes both ways though...MSU at home gets the benifit too.

Agree there, it just sucks that they get intimidated by the home crowd

 

[MSUMatt28]

I'm sick of the Craft love, he's a good defensive player but he clutches and grabs all the time. there was a play about 4 minutes into the game where Dawson had to call a timeout on an inbounds play, Craft was just holding Appling and he couldn't get free. Craft played 37 minutes with 1 foul all the while going aggressively for steals, if you play that way, you're going to grab someone's arm and reach once in a while, that's the trade off. It's hard to believe that he could play that aggressively for that long and only get one foul. part of the problem may have been guarding appling who wasn't driving but a lot of those steals or attempts were on other players

Same deal with him offensively too. He just tries to brute his way to the basket since he can't blow by anybody and more often than not gets bailed out by the refs.

I agree the officiating was bad yesterday. There was one play where Payne went up for a shot inside and was undercut and hip checked underneath and I think hit the floor after letting the ball go. No call. The goaltending on Dawson (or was it Payne) was another one, when that replay showed they clearly got the ball before it had touched the backboard.

 

[Spartanmack]

Big 10 officiating is a joke. The home teams get way too many calls. This goes both ways though...MSU at home gets the benifit too.

officiating in college sports in general sucks - football and basketball. This year I've watched a lot of basketball (way too much according to my wife) - B1G, Big12, PAC12, ACC, SEC, MVC, A-10 all the way down to the MAAC. Occasionally refs impact the outcome with a horrible late call but more often it's the case that they make games painful to watch with poor and inconsistent officiating throughout.

 

[Sbee]

officiating in college sports in general sucks - football and basketball. This year I've watched a lot of basketball (way too much according to my wife) - B1G, Big12, PAC12, ACC, SEC, MVC, A-10 all the way down to the MAAC. Occasionally refs impact the outcome with a horrible late call but more often it's the case that they make games painful to watch with poor and inconsistent officiating throughout.

yesterday was very poor and biased in OSU's favor, that's just what you deal with on the road though. there may have been a little more yesterday, that stuff puts the microscope on other mistakes we made. the TO's wouldn't have been as big of an issue if they didn't shoot 3x the free throws we did

 

[Sbee]

I'm not the biggest couch fan but he kind of sums it up here

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20140309/COLUMNISTS15/303090087

Izzo sounded like someone feeling sorry for himself

 

[gotime909]

The refs may have helped keep OSU in the game, but we gave them the win at the end.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Officiating in basketball is attrocious at the collegiate level. And basketball of all the sports is most succeptable to having the outcome decided by bad officiating. And it's not the calls they make necessarily, it's the calls they don't make. One team gets a couple ticky tack fouls and it completely changes the way they defend the rest of the game. Another team gets away with some clutching and grabbing and they get to clutch and grab all game long.

I thought the officiating was inconsistent and terrible. Also, they missed several out of bounds calls, about 4 or 5 that clearly went off OSU and they gave it to them, and the one where it went off Appling and they gave it to us. The block on Payne was ridiculous, he was completely set before Thompson even began to jump. The goaltending on Dawson was an obvious call that any decent ref gets rgith 99% of the time. Harris hit a long 2 point jumper and was literally tackled by Craft and there was no call. There were about 25 really questionable calls/ non calls that game and about 20 of them did not go our way.

 

[MSUMatt28]

Officiating in basketball is attrocious at the collegiate level. And basketball of all the sports is most succeptable to having the outcome decided by bad officiating. And it's not the calls they make necessarily, it's the calls they don't make. One team gets a couple ticky tack fouls and it completely changes the way they defend the rest of the game. Another team gets away with some clutching and grabbing and they get to clutch and grab all game long.

I thought the officiating was inconsistent and terrible. Also, they missed several out of bounds calls, about 4 or 5 that clearly went off OSU and they gave it to them, and the one where it went off Appling and they gave it to us. The block on Payne was ridiculous, he was completely set before Thompson even began to jump. The goaltending on Dawson was an obvious call that any decent ref gets rgith 99% of the time. Harris hit a long 2 point jumper and was literally tackled by Craft and there was no call. There were about 25 really questionable calls/ non calls that game and about 20 of them did not go our way.

I had thought the only way that block on Payne was a foul on Payne was if his feet weren't completely outside the charge circle. I never did see a replay on that. Otherwise, that should have been about as easy of a charge call one could make. In the end I think Thompson miissed both free throws and it didn't matter (other than tagging Payne with an additional foul).

 

[Spartanmack]

yesterday was very poor and biased in OSU's favor, that's just what you deal with on the road though. there may have been a little more yesterday, that stuff puts the microscope on other mistakes we made. the TO's wouldn't have been as big of an issue if they didn't shoot 3x the free throws we did

I agree but my comments were about the state of officiating in general. As bad as it was last night, it's no different than most nights. The MSU/Texas round of 8 game was as bad as I've ever seen (20-3 foul shots in the 2nd half - we couldn't breathe on TJ Ford without a whistle). I blame coaching for the loss - why did Valentine have the ball to try to win the game? Why did Payne take a contested 3 with 28 seconds left on the clock (and 26 on the shot clock)? Why has our half court offense been so bad since Mateen graduated (probably an exaggeration but it certainly seems like it's been that long)?

 

[Sbee]

as for valentine in the lane, i don't mind that play. he is great with that floater and he has good vision to find and open man, he just slipped, a fluke thing, that happens from time to time. maybe he was anticipating contact from Craft and then it never came

 

[Spartanmack]

i don't mind that play in a close game with 2 minutes left but if Valentine is the first option to win close games on the last possession, we've got bigger problems than I thought and it's not like it was a diversion play - they gave him the ball on the wing and watched him go to work...

 

[Sbee]

as far as officiating, I've seen some strange things this year because of the hand check rules. they call the game a lot tighter on the perimeter and when guys are cutting but they tend to let more contact go in the paint. they want to focus on the new rule but you don't want games like MSU-UK where they take 3 hours and each team shoots 30 FT's. you see a lot of other things not get called along with a lot of things that are fouls now that weren't before