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Jim Schwartz: Sixth Season Comparison

grandy

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http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2013/12/10/5194840/jim-schwartz-detroit-lions

At this time a year ago, with the Detroit Lions on their way to a disappointing 4-12 season, there was a lot of talk about the status of head coach Jim Schwartz. He finished 2012 on the hot seat, but since he just got a contract extension the summer before, the Lions opted to bring him back for 2013.

Fast forward to now and Schwartz is back on the hot seat despite the fact that the Lions are currently in first place in the NFC North. A 6-3 start to 2013 has turned into a 7-6 record with three weeks to go, and now there are big question marks surrounding the idea of a sixth season in Detroit for Schwartz and this coaching staff.

When Schwartz was on the hot seat last year, I went back to 1990 and looked at the records of head coaches who managed to make it to year No. 5 of their tenure. I found that only David Shula had a worse record than Schwartz and actually saw a fifth season, and he was fired after starting his fifth season 1-6.

The Lions ended up keeping Schwartz in place for 2013, but it remains to be seen if he will actually make it to a sixth season as head coach. How does he stack up with the head coaches since 1990 who did last at least six years? It's not pretty for Schwartz, to say the least:

(Table is in the link at the top)

Even if the Lions win out, Schwartz will only be able to match Norv Turner for the fewest wins of any head coach since 1990 who made it to a sixth season. In Turner's case, he went 32-47-1 in his first five seasons and somehow wasn't fired despite not having a single playoff appearance with the Washington Redskins. He did take the Redskins to the playoffs in his sixth season thanks to a 10-6 record, but Washington canned him midway through his seventh season despite the Redskins being 7-6 at the time.

It's worth noting that every situation is different, as evidenced by the fact that Schwartz is the only coach on the above list who took over a 0-16 team. It's also worth noting that injuries to Matthew Stafford played a role in Schwartz having an 8-24 record in his first two seasons in Detroit. Of course, it's also worth noting that Schwartz's record is only 21-24 since then. Considering the Lions went to the playoffs in 2011 and are in first place right now, things have generally been better in the last few years, even with last year's 4-12 season factored in, but his record still hasn't been great.

Essentially, the conclusion to this study is the same as last year's. If the Lions decide to bring back Schwartz, it will be an exercise of patience given his record. Simply based on what's happened since 1990, it was surprising that Schwartz was even brought back for a fifth season. Unless the Lions put together a strong finish to the 2013 campaign by winning the division and making a run in the playoffs, a sixth season for Schwartz would be even more of a surprise based simply on the last couple decades in the NFL.
 
They can only ride out that 0-16 excuse for so long. Although in this town, they can probably drag it out for quite a bit.

I highly doubt Schwartz would've lasted this long with a real NFL franchise.
 
He wouldn't have and that 0-16 year is old news. It has to be if the franchise is to be great someday. He has to admit that he doesn't have the answer to this team playing complete football and he irks the shit outta me by dodging the obvious while the team is doing badly. They kept the GM (that shall not be named) far longer than he should have been with detroit, so who knows when they'll send schwartz packing. Just another FUCK YOU" to every fan of this team. It's been that way forever. Can't see that changing any time soon.
 
2-14 in a Millen mess (and by that I mean Millen devoid of talent where you can't fix it in one year and cap problems).
6-10 without Stafford


Start judging in 2011, 10-6, 4-12 and 7-6 (to be continued). If he wins a division title he stays. I could careless about his overall record skewed by 2009/2010. KC and Indy had way more talent in their bad years than the 2008/2009 Lions.
 
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If there is a new coach, and the Lions PLAYERS figure out how to not turn the ball over 3-4 times a game, that coach will look like a genius, no matter who it is. Assuming the new OC gets the same out of the Lions offense points wise and first down wise as Linehan and the new Oline coach gets the same out of the Oline.
 
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